YahooPOPs Question

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I just started using YahooPOPs with Pimmy, and I have a quick question.
The first time around, everything worked as expected. I had a lot of
messages, and they downloaded fine. Since then, it goes thru the routine
of checking the regular and bulk mail folders, and the standard:

Request: STAT
Request: NOOP

But it seems to hang on the "Request: NOOP" Does anyone know what NOOP
means, and why that step would cause things to come to a halt?

Thanks.
 
....and seconds before the explosion, jason emerged from the bunker carrying
the last chicken tikka masala humanity would ever see, crying:
I just started using YahooPOPs with Pimmy, and I have a quick
question. The first time around, everything worked as expected. I
had a lot of messages, and they downloaded fine. Since then, it goes
thru the routine of checking the regular and bulk mail folders, and
the standard:

Request: STAT
Request: NOOP

But it seems to hang on the "Request: NOOP" Does anyone know what
NOOP means, and why that step would cause things to come to a halt?

Thanks.
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Noop ?

Nope !
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jason said:
But it seems to hang on the "Request: NOOP" Does anyone know what NOOP
means, and why that step would cause things to come to a halt?
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Well sure I do. NOOP stands for no operation. It is usually sent to
remote machine that you have connected toin order to keep the connection
alive. The standard response from the remote machine is usually "Ok".
Or if they have anti-timeout schemes the remote machine may simply drop
your connection. If your machine is sending a NOOP command, and the
other Machine isn't answering it, it may be putting your machine in a
"pause till I get a response" mode. See if you can disable it or let
the software author know that the remote machine isn't answering noop
commands.
 
Well sure I do. NOOP stands for no operation. It is usually sent to
remote machine that you have connected toin order to keep the connection
alive. The standard response from the remote machine is usually "Ok".
Or if they have anti-timeout schemes the remote machine may simply drop
your connection. If your machine is sending a NOOP command, and the
other Machine isn't answering it, it may be putting your machine in a
"pause till I get a response" mode. See if you can disable it or let
the software author know that the remote machine isn't answering noop
commands.
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Hi Anti_Freak. Thanks for your response. I'm unclear at this point which
program does what, but neither YahooPOPs nor my e-mail client (Pimmy) has
an option to turn off the NOOP command. I'm guessing the remote machine
(Yahoo) can answer NOOP commands, since I was able to download mail the
first time around. It's just now that I'm getting those long delays. I'll
have to access Yahoo manually to see if I actually have any mail on the
server.
 
jason said:
Hi Anti_Freak. Thanks for your response. I'm unclear at this point which
program does what, but neither YahooPOPs nor my e-mail client (Pimmy) has
an option to turn off the NOOP command. I'm guessing the remote machine
(Yahoo) can answer NOOP commands, since I was able to download mail the
first time around. It's just now that I'm getting those long delays. I'll
have to access Yahoo manually to see if I actually have any mail on the
server.
Click to expand...

I haven't used Pimmy or YahooPOPs so I am afraid I can't help you much
more than what I've said. The yahoo mail checker that works great for
me is Pop Peeper [http://www.poppeeper.com/]
 
jason said:
But it seems to hang on the "Request: NOOP" Does anyone know what NOOP
means, and why that step would cause things to come to a halt?
Click to expand...

Hello Jason, we are researching a similar problem on Hotmail.

NOOP stands for "NO OPERATION"; Pimmy sends these commands to the server to
avoid loosing connection; server should reply with "+OK". I think you are
opening mailbox directlry (double click on the red icon), right? If you set
Pimmy to automatically check and download e-mail, NOOP is not sent: I don't
know whether this could help you.

By the way, it will be very useful if you could send Pimmy log file (and
maybe YahooPOPs log file) to our support mailbox. Pimmy log file do not
contain password, so I hope about YahooPOPs. Can you please explain the
steps to reproduce the problem? we have opened a Yahoo! account to test
this issue.

Thanks,
 
jason said:
Hi Anti_Freak. Thanks for your response. I'm unclear at this point which
program does what, but neither YahooPOPs nor my e-mail client (Pimmy) has
an option to turn off the NOOP command. I'm guessing the remote machine
(Yahoo) can answer NOOP commands, since I was able to download mail the
first time around. It's just now that I'm getting those long delays. I'll
have to access Yahoo manually to see if I actually have any mail on the
server.
Click to expand...

I haven't used Pimmy or YahooPOPs so I am afraid I can't help you much
more than what I've said. The yahoo mail checker that works great for
me is Pop Peeper [http://www.poppeeper.com/]
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For what it's worth, I've been using YahooPOPs! for 2 months or more
now with no problems once I figured everything out. (I've not been
here much in ACF because PSP and Poser have consumed me <g>!) All my
free computer/online time has been spent working in PSP and Poser.

To that end I've joined about 40 yahoo groups and use my yahoo mail
account with them. Even when I belonged to only about 15 groups, I
still couldn't handle the volume of mail (OH HOW I WISH yahoo groups
operated like usenet! Boy do I ever miss how great usenet is when I'm
there!!).

But YahooPOPs! at least has made it all possible. I have cable
internet and my computer is on 24/7. Outlook is my email client and
YahooPOPs! operates so that I send and receive everything through the
yahoo servers. I'm limited only by the bandwidth I'm allowed per
month and having my computer on at all times with Outlook open and at
least a couple of hundred megs of free disk space. I don't really
need all that much but some days traffic is extremely high with lots
of attachments!

Anyway, to get to the point of this response, the delays are, for me,
caused by yahoo. Yahell is by no means a perfect system. Even when
you check your bouncing status, it will tell you you are fine even
when you are not. When mail tapers off, I now just automatically go
and unbounce even though it's not registering that I am. A few days
later, bouncing history shows that I actually was soft bouncing nearly
every time.

Hope this is of some help?

There is a forum for YahooPOPs! if you need comprehensive answers.
They are great over there. They helped me walk through the problems.
They didn't actually solve anything for me, but asking the questions I
did and getting the feedback allowed me to figure it out on my own -
which I wouldn't have been able to do.

Good luck!
 
Angelo Donatiello said:
Hello Jason, we are researching a similar problem on Hotmail.

NOOP stands for "NO OPERATION"; Pimmy sends these commands to the
server to avoid loosing connection; server should reply with "+OK". I
think you are opening mailbox directlry (double click on the red
icon), right? If you set Pimmy to automatically check and download
e-mail, NOOP is not sent: I don't know whether this could help you.

By the way, it will be very useful if you could send Pimmy log file
(and maybe YahooPOPs log file) to our support mailbox. Pimmy log file
do not contain password, so I hope about YahooPOPs. Can you please
explain the steps to reproduce the problem? we have opened a Yahoo!
account to test this issue.

Thanks,
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Hi Angelo. I'll send you the logs and a description of the problem. And
it's no problem for me to setup Pimmy to auto-check and download mail, so
I'll do that in the meantime.

Thanks for your help.
 
I haven't used Pimmy or YahooPOPs so I am afraid I can't help you much
more than what I've said. The yahoo mail checker that works great for
me is Pop Peeper [http://www.poppeeper.com/]
Click to expand...

Thanks for the pointer! I've installed it yesterday and I'm very happy. I
didn't even know such things existed, and I really do dislike reading my
mail through web pages (and dislike OE too)!

(Now, if it only had folders where I can squirrel away the messages that I
want to keep... but that would be asking too much)
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Hi Anna,
The yahoo mail checker that works great for
me is Pop Peeper [http://www.poppeeper.com/]
Click to expand...

Thanks for the pointer! I've installed it yesterday and I'm very happy. I
didn't even know such things existed, and I really do dislike reading my
mail through web pages (and dislike OE too)!
Click to expand...

Not only this, but if you set PP to display the mails in RTF only (ie not html)
you gain speed, save bandwidth, avoid the ads, and defeat the spammers'
verification of your address through web bugs/beacons/whatchamacallits.
(Now, if it only had folders where I can squirrel away the messages that I
want to keep... but that would be asking too much)
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Nope. For this you can use Yahoopops, and then d/k the "good" mails to any POP3
clients (OE, Agent, or whatever you use).

DAN
 
Angelo Donatiello said:
NOOP stands for "NO OPERATION"; Pimmy sends these commands to the
server to avoid loosing connection; server should reply with "+OK". I
think you are opening mailbox directlry (double click on the red
icon), right? If you set Pimmy to automatically check and download
e-mail, NOOP is not sent: I don't know whether this could help you.

By the way, it will be very useful if you could send Pimmy log file
(and maybe YahooPOPs log file) to our support mailbox. Pimmy log file
do not contain password, so I hope about YahooPOPs. Can you please
explain the steps to reproduce the problem? we have opened a Yahoo!
account to test this issue.
Click to expand...

Angelo, I tried sending you an e-mail twice, but it bounced back. It said
your domain wasn't valid. I was using the (e-mail address removed) addy. That
was as of early this morning.
 
jason said:
Angelo, I tried sending you an e-mail twice, but it bounced back. It said
your domain wasn't valid. I was using the support@******** addy. That
was as of early this morning.
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Hello Jason,

yesterday we had big problems on our web site / mail system due to our
provider. Today web site is still not working but mail system has been
restored. So please send your message again to our support e-mail address.
Thanks.
 
Hi Anna,
The yahoo mail checker that works great for
me is Pop Peeper [http://www.poppeeper.com/]
Click to expand...

Thanks for the pointer! I've installed it yesterday and I'm very happy. I
didn't even know such things existed, and I really do dislike reading my
mail through web pages (and dislike OE too)!
Click to expand...

Not only this, but if you set PP to display the mails in RTF only (ie not html)
you gain speed, save bandwidth, avoid the ads, and defeat the spammers'
verification of your address through web bugs/beacons/whatchamacallits.
Click to expand...

Oh yes, thanks. Hadn't thought of this because the client I use normally
(Pegasus Mail) avoids such beacons automatically.

In fact, PopPeeper allows you to disable images/beacons/multimedia content
while viewing HTML, which is the best of both worlds (since I use my
hotmail account for some newsletters which come in HTML only, and don't
make much sense if displayed in RTF).
Nope. For this you can use Yahoopops, and then d/k the "good" mails to any POP3
clients (OE, Agent, or whatever you use).
Click to expand...

Yes, that's what I thought. Fine, not a big problem!

Ciao,
Anna
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- I think it would be a good idea.
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