The fact that you deny everything I wrote, makes it very clear that
absolutley NO discussion with you is possible.
Well if you'd only realized that a couple days ago... ;-)
Discussions are possible, but you're not looking to discuss. You
expected to make a declaritative statement but then came across
someone with enough experience that they can manage and reduce the
risk to a minimal level.
That's only because you think that I consider you a 'fool' and now your
emotions are taking control over your common sense.
Actually no, but congratulations on jumping to a false conclusion
again. Anything to avoid the subject, right? The subject WAS
overclocking, and there is plenty of evidence that it can be done
safely, that your conclusion of "risk" isn't relevant to the extent
that the risk is from doing it in ignorance, not inherantly from the
overclocking itself.
If you had written "if you dont' know what you're doing, don't do it",
I would've agreed. Overclocking is not just entering the BIOS and
picking a bigger number, you have to consider the IMPACT of that
choice, and know how to troubleshoot and test, skills needed outside
of overclocking too.
Dealing with an overclocked system is NO DIFFERENT than setting up a
non-overclocked system, in that a non-overclocked system must be
extensively tested... don't even mention "professionals" as you did in
the last post if you don't consider a professional to be someone who
does enough testing to eliminate the risks from overclocking. A
professional doesn't trust their equipment, they PROVE it appropriate,
unless there's liability attached to the equipment's warranty, and in
that case, the warranty and thus liability would be gone when the
system is overclocked, so of course it wouldn't be overclocked in
that specific scenario. Otherwise there is no less validation needed
for a non-overclocked system, no assumption of decreased risk if it
isn't overclocked. It must work 100% correctly either way.
It's a very common
response from a home user who can built his own computer and now thinks he
knows everything. For your information, the A+ is the beginners exam that
most beginners start with... I've already past that stage many and many
years ago.
Do you really want to make this personal? It appears so, that you're
desperately trying to claim you have experience, therefore you know,
and since I disagree, I must not have as much experience?
Keep on assuming, some day the odds will catch up and you'll actually,
accidentally, assume right.
I was only pointing out the risks of overclocking...
Actually, you weren't. You didn't list risks but one or two rarities,
otherwise just a vague reference to "risk", then a description of what
you must assume is news worthy, mentioning cooling and cleaning, then
dodging back and forth with nothing to support your argument.
This isn't a bullshitting contest, there are plenty of real-world
examples of people successfully overclocking. There are plenty of
people who have overclocked dozens of systems or more... this great
risk you assume would've been a deterrent to that, wouldn't you think?
Yet over and over again they had success.
... and I really don't care
that you ignore them, as long as there are others who do read my ideas about
this matter with an open mind.
Have a nice day Pacman
Quite an irony. You mention "open mind" but that's not at all what
you've had. Perhaps you're conservative when it comes to computers.
You repeat what you're taught without testing the boundaries... at one
point is was generally accepted that the world was flat, but someone
tested that.
Is there a risk? Sure. There's also a risk to connecting a hard
drive to a new power supply and turning it on. There's a risk to
trusting a motherboard manufacturer to make a board stable enough that
it'll run properly NON-overclocked. There's a risk that Microsoft
will be found guilty of monopolizing the industry and be broken into
a dozen little pieces. There's a risk a small child will eat your
motherboard battery, BUT, eventually they learn what to eat, and
eventually someone trying to overclock, learns how, too... life IS
risk, but it's RELATIVE risk.
There's a risk you'll go out on usenet and find someone who knows
their stuff, can overclock without anywhere near the degree of risk
you only imply. There's a risk you'll find more than one "someone" if
you visit alt.comp.overclocking et al.
I do not advocate overclocking, I advocate having control over your
OWN system and making an informed choice about what you can do with
it... not your company's systems, or your wife's, or anyone else's.
Dave
