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griffin

hi to all,

cant help but notice the 'complaints', 'questions', & 'ho to's',
in this n/g.

i sort of thought 'bill' had it all sorted out when xp got released,
but by the number of questions and 'problems', it seems that
it is not-so.

i know xp is a more 'stable' o/s, but dropping into an n/g such as
this it just seems that it has as many problems as any other
operating systems newsgroup......... of course, i am only going
by the posts.

griff
 
Griffin,

The larger a software, the more complex it gets, and thus creating more
problems. It is a fact and can't be changed.

Also, a piece of software can't be developed properly for a large based of
audience, from Newbies to Begineers to advance to Masters.

Take a look around at other software companies' forum/NG. All are the same.
The bigger the software company is, the more posts their NG/forum they
receive (the more chances that users will bump into a problem etc). It is
normal.
 
griffin said:
hi to all,

cant help but notice the 'complaints', 'questions', & 'ho to's',
in this n/g.

i sort of thought 'bill' had it all sorted out when xp got released,
but by the number of questions and 'problems', it seems that
it is not-so.

i know xp is a more 'stable' o/s, but dropping into an n/g such as
this it just seems that it has as many problems as any other
operating systems newsgroup......... of course, i am only going
by the posts.

griff
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Remember, this group is for people with problems. You're
not going to see posts saying "hey my system is running
great and I have no problems". Posts like those would be
pointless. IMO the majority of XP installations run without
problems.

gls858
 
gls858 said:
Remember, this group is for people with problems. You're
not going to see posts saying "hey my system is running
great and I have no problems". Posts like those would be
pointless. IMO the majority of XP installations run without
problems.

gls858
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And 90% of the problems are usually PECAK or ID-TEN-T errors.
 
Griffin

Consider this..

Unix.. an operating system made up of assorted code from different authors,
running in loose formation on high end machines, and very often tailored to
do just one task (over and above controlling the hardware).. does it ever go
wrong?.. yes, if the operator makes a mistake with any input..

Mac OS.. an operating system designed to run on a MAC only.. you can't make
internal changes to a Mac.. does it ever go wrong?.. yes, if the operator
makes a mistake with any input..

Windows XP.. designed to run on the X86 platform.. the X86 platform can be a
mixture or combination of all kinds of parts from a plethora of
manufacturers.. all parts, whatever the year of manufacture, are expected to
work in any combination whether professionally assembled or cobbled together
on the kitchen table by an eight year old child.. XP is expected to make
sense of whatever parts have been assembled without any prompting from the
user, and then to do any and all tasks regardless of the quality of input on
the part of the user that follows..

As you can well see for yourself, questions come from a wide range of
people, some who are seeking to get the most from their system and maybe not
quite understanding how to do it, to others who are 'criminally' stupid and
not aware of what day it is..

I think that full credit should be given to the team that write XP code.. no
other operating system is expected to cope with so many demands placed on
it...
 
I just hate responding to troll bait but I cannot resist.

I just typed Mac Help in a search box on Google Groups, here's the link:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Mac Help&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg

And here's a link for Mac Problems:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=Mac+Problems

Now, shall we make the same qualitative assessment of a Mac based on the
above samples as you have made of XP or the PC from your view of the headers
in this group? The above sure looks like an awful lot of problems for an OS
that only has 3% of the U.S. Market and 2% of the global market.

All that said, it is no more indicative of the quality of the Mac, how good
the computers are or how good and how stable the system is than the list of
issues in this newsgroup with regard to XP.

Other's in this thread have made precisely that point, the above backs them
up.

--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol.

Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
 
I know, Colin.:-)

My response was more for those who are regulars but may not post, yet might
have given more credence to the OP than it really warranted. I just wanted
to put it in proper context and give them some perspective.

--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol.

Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/


Colin Barnhorst said:
Just a drive-by-troll, Michael. Probably won't be back.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Michael Solomon (MS-MVP) said:
I just hate responding to troll bait but I cannot resist.

I just typed Mac Help in a search box on Google Groups, here's the link:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Mac Help&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg

And here's a link for Mac Problems:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=Mac+Problems

Now, shall we make the same qualitative assessment of a Mac based on the
above samples as you have made of XP or the PC from your view of the
headers in this group? The above sure looks like an awful lot of
problems for an OS that only has 3% of the U.S. Market and 2% of the
global market.

All that said, it is no more indicative of the quality of the Mac, how
good the computers are or how good and how stable the system is than the
list of issues in this newsgroup with regard to XP.

Other's in this thread have made precisely that point, the above backs
them up.

--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol.

Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
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Click to expand...
 
I was tempted, but figured it was a Linux fanatic.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Michael Solomon (MS-MVP) said:
I know, Colin.:-)

My response was more for those who are regulars but may not post, yet
might have given more credence to the OP than it really warranted. I just
wanted to put it in proper context and give them some perspective.

--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol.

Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/


Colin Barnhorst said:
Just a drive-by-troll, Michael. Probably won't be back.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
Michael Solomon (MS-MVP) said:
I just hate responding to troll bait but I cannot resist.

I just typed Mac Help in a search box on Google Groups, here's the link:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Mac Help&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg

And here's a link for Mac Problems:
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&q=Mac+Problems

Now, shall we make the same qualitative assessment of a Mac based on the
above samples as you have made of XP or the PC from your view of the
headers in this group? The above sure looks like an awful lot of
problems for an OS that only has 3% of the U.S. Market and 2% of the
global market.

All that said, it is no more indicative of the quality of the Mac, how
good the computers are or how good and how stable the system is than the
list of issues in this newsgroup with regard to XP.

Other's in this thread have made precisely that point, the above backs
them up.

--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol.

Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/


hi to all,

cant help but notice the 'complaints', 'questions', & 'ho to's',
in this n/g.

i sort of thought 'bill' had it all sorted out when xp got released,
but by the number of questions and 'problems', it seems that
it is not-so.

i know xp is a more 'stable' o/s, but dropping into an n/g such as
this it just seems that it has as many problems as any other
operating systems newsgroup......... of course, i am only going
by the posts.

griff
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I think that full credit should be given to the team that write XP code.. no
other operating system is expected to cope with so many demands placed on
it...
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Hi mike,,

The military have better systems.
People write programs that military use.
People write progarms that XP users use.
Its 'People' who are at the crux of everyting,
but thanks for the feedback.

ta
griff
 
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