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Guest
Hi. Is XP's firewall improved enough in SP2 so you
wouldn't have to install one from Mcaffe or Norton?
Thanks, Craig.
wouldn't have to install one from Mcaffe or Norton?
Thanks, Craig.
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
Hi,
That would depend on what features you want. The basic firewall has always
been sufficient for blocking incoming traffic, just not easily configurable.
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That would depend on what features you want. The basic firewall has always
been sufficient for blocking incoming traffic, just not easily configurable.
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Haus
It is a step in the right direction and seems to be working good.
The popup blocker is very nice and works like a champ.
The popup blocker is very nice and works like a champ.
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
The "next generation" Windows Firewall included with SP2, while
vastly superior to the original ICF in terms of visibility, usability
and configurability, is still rather lacking, as a solid security
component. It still can't supplant 3rd-party solutions, nor is it
intended to do so; rather, it's intended to complement them. And, like
the original ICF, it will not monitor out-going traffic.
It's most important virtues, I think, are it's improved
compatibility with internal LANs and its configurability via group
policies. Now, there's a simple, cheap tool that system admins can
use to protect the LAN workstations from that occasional - but not
rare enough - fool who manages to bypass the perimeter firewall and
manually install some malware that could then spread throughout the
LAN via shared drives.
Bruce Chambers
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The "next generation" Windows Firewall included with SP2, while
vastly superior to the original ICF in terms of visibility, usability
and configurability, is still rather lacking, as a solid security
component. It still can't supplant 3rd-party solutions, nor is it
intended to do so; rather, it's intended to complement them. And, like
the original ICF, it will not monitor out-going traffic.
It's most important virtues, I think, are it's improved
compatibility with internal LANs and its configurability via group
policies. Now, there's a simple, cheap tool that system admins can
use to protect the LAN workstations from that occasional - but not
rare enough - fool who manages to bypass the perimeter firewall and
manually install some malware that could then spread throughout the
LAN via shared drives.
Bruce Chambers
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Doug Knox MS-MVP
Bruce,
Are you running SP2, RC2? If so, you might want to open the firewall properties and go to the Exceptions tab.
Are you running SP2, RC2? If so, you might want to open the firewall properties and go to the Exceptions tab.
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Guest
The simple truth is it's free and works just as well as any third party software firewalls that you have to spend your hard earned money on. Go to some test sites and see for youself. XP SP2 RC2 is a good step up in security. Pop-up blocker in IE and even a download blocker that asks if you want the download before it begins. I have always used the firewall and continue to do so with SP2 RC2 and I have never had my system compromised in any way. The final decision is of course yours but why waste money just to add a firewall to outgoing traffic?
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Michael D. Alligood
I have yet to try SP2 and will probably wait for the final release. However,
I have been reading numerous articles about the changes for Windows
Firewall. So far, I like what I have read.
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some test sites and see for youself. XP SP2 RC2 is a good step up in
security. Pop-up blocker in IE and even a download blocker that asks if you
want the download before it begins. I have always used the firewall and
continue to do so with SP2 RC2 and I have never had my system compromised in
any way. The final decision is of course yours but why waste money just to
add a firewall to outgoing traffic?
I have been reading numerous articles about the changes for Windows
Firewall. So far, I like what I have read.
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Best of luck!
Michael D. Alligood
MCSA, MCP, CCNA, A+,
Network+, i-Net+, CIW A, CIW CI
software firewalls that you have to spend your hard earned money on. Go toThe Unknown P said:
some test sites and see for youself. XP SP2 RC2 is a good step up in
security. Pop-up blocker in IE and even a download blocker that asks if you
want the download before it begins. I have always used the firewall and
continue to do so with SP2 RC2 and I have never had my system compromised in
any way. The final decision is of course yours but why waste money just to
add a firewall to outgoing traffic?
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
I don't current have a machine with SP2 installed. Why would I
want to look at the Exceptions tab, though?
Bruce Chambers
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Bruce,
Are you running SP2, RC2? If so, you might want to open the
firewall properties and go to the Exceptions tab.
I don't current have a machine with SP2 installed. Why would I
want to look at the Exceptions tab, though?
Bruce Chambers
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Bruce,
Are you running SP2, RC2? If so, you might want to open the
firewall properties and go to the Exceptions tab.
D
Doug Knox MS-MVP
That's where you allow specific programs access past the firewall, from the inside.
B
Bruce Chambers
Greetings --
Ah, I think I see. I tested only SP2 RC1, and the Exceptions
tab in that version, as near as I could see, only allowed one to
specify the type/source of unsolicited inbound traffic to allow.
Bruce Chambers
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That's where you allow specific programs access past the firewall,
from the inside.
Ah, I think I see. I tested only SP2 RC1, and the Exceptions
tab in that version, as near as I could see, only allowed one to
specify the type/source of unsolicited inbound traffic to allow.
Bruce Chambers
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That's where you allow specific programs access past the firewall,
from the inside.
D
Doug Knox MS-MVP
You should look into RC2. Lots of additions, security wise.
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Bruce Chambers said:
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Haus
I will have to agree.
I am behind a router with built-in NAT have run a port & stealth scan with
ICF & ZoneAlarm(free edition with outbound ports set to ask)by disabling one
at a time and have come up with the same results.
During startup if the ZA is set to start the ICF will be disabled and the
built-in security feature will notice the ZA.
If the ZA is disabled the ICF will automatically be switched on at start &
if it is turned off for any reason a balloon will notify you.
How secure is any firewall?
I feel the new ICF combined with the pop-up & download blocker will be a big
improvement and will give the average user more security.
I have also tested McAfee Virus Protection(download version) & AVG (free
version) and the built-in security center will see either one with no
problem.
Therefore I have I am running the built-in ICF & AVG (free) and so far no
problem.
JMO.....
I am behind a router with built-in NAT have run a port & stealth scan with
ICF & ZoneAlarm(free edition with outbound ports set to ask)by disabling one
at a time and have come up with the same results.
During startup if the ZA is set to start the ICF will be disabled and the
built-in security feature will notice the ZA.
If the ZA is disabled the ICF will automatically be switched on at start &
if it is turned off for any reason a balloon will notify you.
How secure is any firewall?
I feel the new ICF combined with the pop-up & download blocker will be a big
improvement and will give the average user more security.
I have also tested McAfee Virus Protection(download version) & AVG (free
version) and the built-in security center will see either one with no
problem.
Therefore I have I am running the built-in ICF & AVG (free) and so far no
problem.
JMO.....
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Guest
I am looking for the firewall. where do I find it? I can;t find lots of stuff in xp. I was trying to work with AVG to no avail and it said to check the firewall.
seagull
seagull
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Walter Clayton
Control panel->network connections. Right click any connection (other than
AOL dialup connections) and select properties. Go to the advanced tab.
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AOL dialup connections) and select properties. Go to the advanced tab.
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