xp search/find replacement

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Any suggestions welcome . Thanks . John .

I've had XP for a couple of weeks, and despite tweaking it to make it
simpler (and puppy-less), I'm not very happy with it so I'll be
watching these suggestions as well. Have to wonder why they felt they
had to tinker with Find.

FWIW, you can bring in winfile.exe (244K) from older versions of
Windows. That's an entire Windows manager, but it also does Find.
Kelly's Korner has it available.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/WINFILE.EXE
 
I've had XP for a couple of weeks, and despite tweaking it to make it
simpler (and puppy-less), I'm not very happy with it so I'll be
watching these suggestions as well. Have to wonder why they felt they
had to tinker with Find.

FWIW, you can bring in winfile.exe (244K) from older versions of
Windows. That's an entire Windows manager, but it also does Find.
Kelly's Korner has it available.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/WINFILE.EXE

Oh, god, yes!! Get rid of that puppy!!

The search is one of the things I find has gotten progressively worse
as OS got higher. Win98 is great, Win2K is fine but XP is the pits!
 
Maureen Goldman said:
I've had XP for a couple of weeks, and despite tweaking it to make it
simpler (and puppy-less), I'm not very happy with it so I'll be
watching these suggestions as well. Have to wonder why they felt they
had to tinker with Find.

FWIW, you can bring in winfile.exe (244K) from older versions of
Windows. That's an entire Windows manager, but it also does Find.
Kelly's Korner has it available.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/WINFILE.EXE


Thanks Maureen , found this beauty .

http://www.shellfront.org/utils/
Find replacement .
 
Maureen said:
Excellent! And it's so much faster than the Search which came with
XP. (On download list as find.zip.)

I'm going to take a look at it also. I can't be bothered putting the
work into seeing if XP search can be made to work properly.

I put *.dll into search the other day and the results were laughable
 
I'm going to take a look at it also. I can't be bothered putting the
work into seeing if XP search can be made to work properly.

I put *.dll into search the other day and the results were laughable

I prefer this one, although it doesn't support drag and drop in quite
the same way. (Select, right click hold..drag) It's a minor quibble.
 
FWIW, you can bring in winfile.exe (244K) from older versions of
Windows. That's an entire Windows manager, but it also does Find.
Kelly's Korner has it available.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/WINFILE.EXE

Does it preserve long filenames and all that jazz. :o/ I'd let this
thing rest in peace if I were you, download the freeware Ontrack
Powerdesk instead.. it's where the file finder applet mentioned in
this thread came from after all.

1) pd4free.zip
2) http://www.ftpsearchengines.com/
3)
ftp://ftp.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/.subdisc2/mirrors/ftp.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/win95/fileutl/pd4free.zip
 
Terry said:
I'm going to take a look at it also. I can't be bothered putting the
work into seeing if XP search can be made to work properly.

I put *.dll into search the other day and the results were laughable

Excellent.

XP Find for *.dll on C:/... 77 returns

Find.exe *.dll on C:/ 3,755 returns
 
fitwell said:
This one looks pretty, pretty good! I like how you can save the
search wherever you want like in Win2K (we have at office), unlike
Win98SE, which I have at home that saves only to the desktop.

Question, though, can it do a find with EXCLUSIONS? I have yet to
find something small and efficient where one could say, find this file
but exclude this ... and name the criteria (files of certain
extension, even files smaller than a certain size or larger than a
certain size).

Pls advise and thanks!

Take a look at jv16 Power Tools:

http://www.vtoy.fi/jv16/shtml/jv16powertools.shtml
 
This one looks pretty, pretty good! I like how you can save the
search wherever you want like in Win2K (we have at office), unlike
Win98SE, which I have at home that saves only to the desktop.

Question, though, can it do a find with EXCLUSIONS? I have yet to
find something small and efficient where one could say, find this file
but exclude this ... and name the criteria (files of certain
extension, even files smaller than a certain size or larger than a
certain size).

It's just the usual way I think, you only set the exclusions by way of
defining the inclusions, not the other way about..which is making my
head spin just thinking about it so "alien is the concept" !

You could put the following in the search box say...

*.dll ; no*.exe ; read*.* ; l?ngfilextensi?n.???? ; badexample.txt

And then once that is in, go to the next tab in the file finder applet
and tick the various boxes and/or put in upper limits on filesizes.

The star (*) means anything at all, could be one letter could be 100.
The question mark (not the *) means just one character, so the file
with the name longfilextension has to have a four letter file
extension. Not that long as it happens I think these can go up to 256
characters in windows.

I'm sorry if this is not what you meant, I'm just finding it hard to
work out what it is thats not possible to do this way around, surely
setting exclusions to find one file would take, some time. }:o?
 
Why so complicated? I'm guessing that this means that it doesn't
really have this built-in (?)

Because without context the potential range is infinite. Infinity when
not taken to be as an arbitary value falls outside logic and is not
easily computational for someone such as me. said:
Unless it has this as a built-in feature, I'll not consider it being
able to do this. The last thing anyone needs is _more_ complicated
tasks to perform <g>!

True true... :o) Assuming a context which is not an infinite range
what we have essentially is yer-bog-standard file filter and then
invert selection applied automatically. If explorer had "find and
select" then it could be done from there manually, and in my version
it doesn't, you might have been refering to this maybe ? The ability
to flick between single and double paned views in XP was a good move,
I'll give them that, perhaps it has what you are looking for I really
don't know - I do know several file managers have it, like 2xExplorer
( http://netez.com/2xExplorer/intro.html ), I don't know if the
selection could be over a range of directorys or sub-directorys...I
don't know how you could avoid a degree of complexity coming into it,
if it was the sole purpose it could do with a new interface design
couldn't it. ;o)

I've seen some interesting takes on displaying file systems...have you
seen a program called Sequoiaview ( http://www.win.tue.nl/sequoiaview/
), it's really useful for finding which directorys are taking up space
and it's a two dimensional grid rather than a tree list. If selecting
the boxes in turn stacked the working folder list... I find that an
interesting idea but confess I am at best 99.9% inspiration and 0.1%
perspiration <g> 3D enviroments which can be moved around with the
mouse would just be file manager nivana for me... it may happen some
day, *dreams* ...when computers are like cash machines or chairs they
just work and nobody thinks twice about them...and they are just dull
even for the most unrepentant of nerd...

I used to have a little utility from PC Magazine as well, I can't
remember the name of it - it wasn't that astounding but you dropped
files or folders on it and you get simply a text "list" of the files,
from there you could filter by various methods and then save it..you
couldn't do search and replace, but once it's saved as a text file you
can of course do what you want. At the time it came in very useful
because sometimes you find that what you are trying to do is a little
too bizzare for a "renamer" program..like renaming and moving to a
folder that doesn't yet exist...based on some existing criteria which
is part of the name of the folder. (Well I find I do but then I'm just
a pest). Anyhow..with the modified text file it's easy enough to make
a few modifications and save it as a batch file, in the end this would
take about 10 or 15 minutes to do with the help of that little and on
the surface quite bland, peice of software. :o)
 
Maureen said:
I would expect you to find all 3,755 with XP using advanced options to
include system folders and subfolders. I've been wondering why we have
to take this extra step, but that doesn't mean XP's search can't find
them..

Ah

Thank you... but as you say: why should we have to take the extra
step?
 
fitwell said:
Question, though, can it do a find with EXCLUSIONS? I have yet to
find something small and efficient where one could say, find this file
but exclude this ... and name the criteria (files of certain
extension, even files smaller than a certain size or larger than a
certain size).

Find.zip has a Details tab with three areas to set date, time and
size, with drop down menus; default is "ignore". The attributes tab
allows selection by type, with further selection for attributes like
hidden. The contents tab has a space for inserting text sought and a
checkbox to indicate whether case is to be ignored.

Really, this is one heck of a Find. I'm delighted. It isn't even
installed - the only file is find.exe (200K), which can be put
anywhere. Mine is in a folder called c:\util\ with other miscellaneous
utilties.
 
Really, this is one heck of a Find. I'm delighted. It isn't even
installed - the only file is find.exe (200K), which can be put
anywhere. Mine is in a folder called c:\util\ with other miscellaneous
utilties.

Where's Boomer. :o) I'll mention some I like just for the heck of it,
these are all quite small but of course useful programs, imho ! Plus
none of them make configuration changes of any sort and can be run
anywhere and deleted at will.

Html-info http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/~csab3666/hinfo.zip , this one
allows you to extract the web links from a page and save it as a list
if necessary, they display in the utility as clickable hyperlinks.
This one is quite hard to find. ;o)

Wild rename ftp://ftp.externet.hu/pub/mirror/sac/utilfile/wildrn18.zip
this lets you rename files in the same way as you would in dos, by
supplying (familiar to me) *x?z.* kind of expressions.

Parameteriser http://krapplets.org/parameteriser.shtml , you put a
shortcut to this in the send to menu. To use it you select a program
(not the shortcut the actual file) in explorer, right click and send
to parameteriser - you can then type in any extra commands you wish to
start that program with. You can do it by opening a dos box, but how
many of us like seeing that thing.

ZDnet's where http://themes.myqth.com/Downloads/zdwhere.zip , another
send to menu program but this one is for files, to use it you send a
file to it and you can copy or move it anyplace else. If you hold down
CTRL while you select the files with the mouse you can choose several
at once. It's a little better than the Anyfolder extension which is
part of Microsofts powertoy set.

Mike Lin's startup control panel applet.
http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml Add edit or delete the programs
that start when windows does, something like this becomes essential
after a while !

Folder organiser http://tp.lc.ehu.es/jma/win95.html This is one of
those system tray launcher things, but it's just good ! You can change
screen resolutions, it's completley customisable (create a menu of
most used programs) and all those standard folders like Desktop,
Favorites, Cache, Documents are all there with a right click. You can
also clear the cache and temporary files.

....I'm sure that's enough from me ! I do *use* all these. Theres some
other useful little utilitys I use but they make modest configuration
changes, I nominated explore for files as Pricelessware (
http://www.lorriman.com/software/explfile/explfile.htm , and
http://2003nominations.pricelessware.org/ ...respectively) try
installing this and using it with that find utility (right click on a
file thats found and then choose Explore.. you'll see that it's
quicker than going via properties, find target..if thats there). I
like the Irfanview extension as well but I realise I'm going a little
off topic now soooo... if anyone's interested, I recommend going to
http://shellcity.net/ and from there clicking the link called "a few
great tweaks" at the side. Some of these modifications can save a lot
of time in the long run, if you use the computer several hours a day.
 
Question, though, can it do a find with EXCLUSIONS? I have yet to
find something small and efficient where one could say, find this file
but exclude this ... and name the criteria (files of certain
extension,

Such a file searcher IMO doesn't exist. At least 99% of freeware file
finders do not allow quick/easy exclusions. I have been looking for
something just like that for years. Every time I do a "text" search
for example I do NOT want to search all my .exe and .zip files.

I HAVE come across file finders that managed exclusions but they
either were NOT freeware and/or they were not " small and
efficient".

Let us know if you ever find anything like you asked for. :-)
even files smaller than a certain size or larger than a
certain size).

The file above DOES allow searching of files smaller than or larger
than certain sizes. Even the "Find" in windows '98 allows that !

Something of GREAT interest to me about the program above is that
it is one of the very few search programs that allow one to search for
files created eg. in the last ten minutes. Very handy.


Regards, John.

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