XP Pro Validation

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DaveClark

Sirs,
I recently got a messge saying that my copy of XP Pro was not genuine, I
have found the cause, about a year ago I had a HD failure and took my
computer to the local shop where he fitted a new HD and transfered files for
me. Uknown to me he put on a copy of XP Pro which is the copy in question. I
have a genuine XP pro disk but when I load it in it says that the copy on my
HD is newer than the one on the disk and if I proceed then I will lose files
and documents. I paid for the upgrade disc a couple of years ago and really I
don't see why I should have to pay another £100 because of a mistake by a
computer shop who, incidently has ceased training. Is there anyway in which
to solve the problem which doesn't involve loosing files/programs or costing
me more money.

Regards,

Dave
 
Yes.

First: The message you saw -- the copy on your hard drive is newer --
means that the copy of Windows installed on your computer has a more
recent service pack than the copy of Windows on your CD. That's why you
can't reinstall your legitimate copy of Windows. You will need to do a
clean install with your legitimate copy of Windows.

A clean install means erasing your hard disk and re-installing all your
software. It won't cost a dime but it will take a few hours to
re-install everything, then update it and set it up again the way you
like it. And you will need to backup everything you don't want to lose.

You may or may not have to re-activate Windows, but that should be a
simple matter of calling the number on your screen.
 
Thanks for the reply LG but it still seems as if I will loose a lot of
programs and documnets, the documents I can backup but a lot of the programs
are freeware and net downloads, some of which are not replaceable. Is this
the only solution?

Dave
 
DaveClark said:
Thanks for the reply LG but it still seems as if I will loose a lot of
programs and documnets, the documents I can backup but a lot of the
programs are freeware and net downloads, some of which are not
replaceable. Is this the only solution?

I disagree with Mr. Grey that you will need to do a clean install. You can
slipstream Service Pack 3 into your legitimate copy of XP Pro:

How to slipstream SP2/SP3 into XP
http://www.nliteos.com/ - nLite
http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp2_cd.htm
http://theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp3_cd.htm

You may not need to do the full Repair Install, but having this slipstreamed
install disk will be useful (and you will need it if the Repair Install is
necessary) and slipstreaming is extremely easy.

Follow the directions for fixing the Product Key issue here:

I need to change my XP Product KEY #18 on the FAQ list -
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/xpfaq.html#018

You will use the Product Key from your legitimate XP Pro copy.

You should not lose any data but you definitely should be backing up your
data regularly since Stuff Happens.

http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Backing_Up

Malke
 
Can you not go back to the websites and download the installers?

In general, it's a good practice to maintain up to date copies of
installers for all software obtained through the internet. Burn copies
to CD, and include the information you need to register the software (if
you paid for it.)

There is no way to install an earlier version of Windows over a later
version.
 
Yes, slipstreaming also works, because it brings your installation CD up
to date (or better) with your installed version of XP. I did not
originally suggest slipstreaming for two reasons:

1- It's not exactly intuitive, and
2- If the shop put an illegitimate copy of Windows on your PC...who
knows what else they installed?
 
Hi Malke,
I'm tearing my hair out at the moment. I've tried the various programs to
change the key but none seem to work, the XP product key modifier accepts the
key but when it says the key has been changed on checking it has not. I also
tried the RockXP4.0 program with the same results.
I assume it is not safe to publish my legit key but it was from an upgrade
package.
I am still very hesitant to do a complete install as I will lose a lot of
progs. and I'm not very computer literate.
The computer seems a lot slower now and I know MS will not "own up" but do
they actually put bugs into XP to slow the system down also is there a time
limit for me to get this sorted?
In desperation before I contacted MS I down loaded RockXP4 from a bit
torrent site and tried to change my key then but nothing happened, until I
changed it to the Key the gave in there blurp, then it did change but to
another invalid key.
Is there a way to send you my legit key so that you know I'm legit. I've
looked at the ways of "slipstreaming" SP3 into my legit copy and will perhaps
try over the weekend. I still cannot understand why none of the progs. you
recommended will change the product key. Any further ideas before I embark on
a journey I'm not looking forward to.

Regards,

Dave
 
Top-poaster and Full-quoter DaveClark said:
I'm tearing my hair out at the moment.

Do a google search for this:

WGA march 2009 1.9.9.1

or

WGA 1.9.9.2

One web site is:

http://www.mydigitallife.info/2009/02/20/download-wga-validation-crack-1991-1900091/

This should server as a lesson to everyone that blindly applies Windows
Updates to their XP system.

The solution is to de-activate the auto-update service and to manually
check for updates when you feel like doing it (once a month or less).
And choose manual or custom update, and look at the updates that are
being offered, and ALWAYS select to NOT download a WGA update (in fact,
they should be set to "ignore this update").

You'll probably have to start your system in command-line mode, and
manually delete certain files in order to gain back your system's
functionality.

Most likely you're a victim of WGA version 1.9.9.2, which was introduced
about a week ago.

Micro$haft doesn't really have a smooth and seemless way to allow you to
re-apply your original product key. The state your system is in does
not represent an occurrance of lost revenue for them, in that you
probably always had a legit license. So the application of WGA is
nothing but a pain in the ass for you, but that doesn't matter to
Milkro$oft, and you'll never be able to convince them of that.

This might be your only solution:

http://bin.ge/file/20664/Windows-Genuine-Advantage-Validation-v1-9-9-1-BY--WWW-FILE-GE-.rar.html

or this one:

http://www.9down.com/Windows-Genuine-Advantage-Validation-v1-9-9-1-CRACKED-V2-78084/

I've downloaded that crack file and put it on file-den. You can obtain
it directly from this link:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/7/19/2010382/WGA.Cracked.ex_

After you downloaded it, rename it from .ex_ to .exe. You can submit it
to virustotal.com to scan it with 40 different AV packages - I've done
it and it is not detected by any AV package.

However, you should still use it only as a last resort. The odds are
50:50 that it's a viral program of some sort.

Let this be a lesson for all you brain-dead people that are applying
windows-updates blindly to your win-XP systems.

If you system has EVER been out of your possession for any reason, and
especially if it's been "repaired" by someone (nerds on site, etc) then
you should be concerned that WGA will **** up your system at some point.
 
DaveClark said:
I recently got a messge saying that my copy of XP Pro was not
genuine ...

Use the following crack with caution. It is being flagged as malware by
8 out of 39 AV programs at virus total:

http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/5fc0cc6c049119fffd353e7c34b34ec8

-------------------------------------

http://supremophantom.blogspot.com/

Thursday, March 26, 2009

Latest Release - WGA with LegitCheckControl.dll ver. 1.9.40.0 !!!

Hi. As on March 24th, 2009 Microsoft has released an updated v1.9.40.0
of Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications Tool.

http://download.microsoft.com/downl...A-C6DE09860204/WindowsXP-KB905474-ENU-x86.exe

Thanks to the users of my work for informing me about this update.

You can use my WGA v1.9.40.0 (posted here) [pswd:SupremoPhantom] to
continue downloading all critical and recommended updates from
Microsoft.

http://rapidshare.com/files/213705985/WGA_v19400.rar

Till we meet again ... :-)

Cheers and Enjoy !!!
Supremo Phantom
 
Hi,
Thanks for the post. I had tried the previous version 1.9.9.1 and it
wouldn't work, exactly the same result as the latest 1.9.4.0 from
SupremoPhantom. It comes back with the following:-
Extracting LegitCheckControl.dll
Extracting WgaTray.exe
CANNOT CREATE WGATRAY.EXE
Extracting WgaLogon.dll
CANNOT CREATE WGALOGON.DLL
Extracting WGASetup.exe

I closed all browsing windows and programs as instructed.
Do you think trying it in Safe Mode would work.

I still need help and an answer to my previous post re "time left etc"

Dave

XP Guy said:
DaveClark said:
I recently got a messge saying that my copy of XP Pro was not
genuine ...

Use the following crack with caution. It is being flagged as malware by
8 out of 39 AV programs at virus total:

http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/5fc0cc6c049119fffd353e7c34b34ec8

-------------------------------------

http://supremophantom.blogspot.com/

Thursday, March 26, 2009

Latest Release - WGA with LegitCheckControl.dll ver. 1.9.40.0 !!!

Hi. As on March 24th, 2009 Microsoft has released an updated v1.9.40.0
of Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications Tool.

http://download.microsoft.com/downl...A-C6DE09860204/WindowsXP-KB905474-ENU-x86.exe

Thanks to the users of my work for informing me about this update.

You can use my WGA v1.9.40.0 (posted here) [pswd:SupremoPhantom] to
continue downloading all critical and recommended updates from
Microsoft.

http://rapidshare.com/files/213705985/WGA_v19400.rar

Till we meet again ... :-)

Cheers and Enjoy !!!
Supremo Phantom
 
DaveClark wrote:

Comments inline:
Hi Malke,
I'm tearing my hair out at the moment. I've tried the various programs to
change the key but none seem to work, the XP product key modifier accepts
the key but when it says the key has been changed on checking it has not.
I also tried the RockXP4.0 program with the same results.
I assume it is not safe to publish my legit key but it was from an upgrade
package.

Of course you shouldn't publish your Product Key!
I am still very hesitant to do a complete install as I will lose a lot of
progs. and I'm not very computer literate.
The computer seems a lot slower now and I know MS will not "own up" but do
they actually put bugs into XP to slow the system down also is there a
time limit for me to get this sorted?

I'm sorry but that's just wrong. No software is without bugs, but thinking
that Microsoft deliberately sabotaged your computer is tinfoil-hat
thinking.
In desperation before I contacted MS I down loaded RockXP4 from a bit
torrent site and tried to change my key then but nothing happened, until I
changed it to the Key the gave in there blurp, then it did change but to
another invalid key.
Is there a way to send you my legit key so that you know I'm legit. I've
looked at the ways of "slipstreaming" SP3 into my legit copy and will
perhaps try over the weekend. I still cannot understand why none of the
progs. you recommended will change the product key. Any further ideas
before I embark on a journey I'm not looking forward to.

No, you should not send me your Product Key. I don't provide email support
and having your Product Key would be useless to me.

At this point, you should consider contacting Microsoft about the issue and
see what they say about how to fix it. What the shop did was illegal (and
reprehensible; it hurt you and it gives the rest of us in the industry a
bad name) I don't know why your Product Key changer software isn't working
because I can't see your computer or what you are doing.

Perhaps you should take the machine to a better computer tech for a hands-on
diagnosis. I don't recommend using a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of
place.

I'm very sorry that I was unable to help you.

Malke
 
DaveClark said:
Hi,
Thanks for the post. I had tried the previous version 1.9.9.1
and it wouldn't work, exactly the same result as the latest
1.9.4.0 from SupremoPhantom. It comes back with the following:-
Extracting LegitCheckControl.dll
Extracting WgaTray.exe
CANNOT CREATE WGATRAY.EXE
Extracting WgaLogon.dll
CANNOT CREATE WGALOGON.DLL
Extracting WGASetup.exe

I closed all browsing windows and programs as instructed.
Do you think trying it in Safe Mode would work.

I still need help and an answer to my previous post re "time left etc"

I suggest that you remove your hard drive and connect it as a secondary
or slave drive on another XP system.

That will allow you to

a) scan the drive for malware, trojans, viruses

b) access certain files and delete them, replace them with
alternate versions, or alter their permissions

I don't have a lot of experience in this, as I've not yet been stuck
with a system that's failed the WGA check.

You'll have to do some legwork on your own, really the only way is to
move your hard drive to another machine where you can access the files
and experiment with it.

The files that you'll be messing with are:

legitcheckcontrol.dll
wgatray.exe
wgalogon.dll

There are two basic strategies for dealing with those files:

1) replace them with hacked or cracked versions you find on the net.
Note that a second copy of them will probably exist somewhere
else, like dllcache directory, so when doing a file search
be sure to enable all search options (system and hidden folders,
etc)

2) modify their permissions (specifically the run or execute
permissions) so that they can't function.

With regard to (2), here are the details:

----------------------------
Set READ permissions only (remove execute) for the wgatray.exe and
wgalogon.dll

Browse to %systemroot%\system32 (ie c:\windows\system32). If you've
slaved your drive to another system, then your problem drive will most
likely be D: so go to d:\windows\system32.

Right mouse click on wgatray.exe, select properties. Select the
security tab. Disable simple file sharing. Click the Advanced button.
Remove the check-mark in the "inherit" box. Put a check-mark in the
"Copy ..." box. Modify each user (including SYSTEM) to have READ
permissions only (List Folder/Read Data, Read Attributes, Read Exteneded
Attributes, and Read Permissions check boxes). You want to remove the
check in the "Execute" box.

Perform the same steps as above for wgalogon.dll.

If you search the internet using terms like WGA and WGATRAY.EXE or
WGALOGON.DLL you'll find other instructions, like these:

-----------------

These are the steps in more details:

1) First backup your system to ensure you can get back to the system in
its current configuration.

2) Open the process list in task manager: ALT+CTRL+DEL, Task Manager,
Processes, sort the list by Image name (click on the column header) to
locate WGATRAY.EXE. Select this process and right click select “End
Process” and confirm.

3) Click Start, Search, Files and Folder enter WGATRAY.EXE as the file
you want to delete. Find the file and delete it. Empty the recycle bin.
If you have system restore on it may restore the file, turn off system
restore in Control Panel, System if required.

4) Check that the WGATRAY.EXE program is deleted and not running, just
to make sure you have removed it successfully!

5) Run Regedit (Start, Run, Regedit)

6) Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\ Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\WinlogonNotify. Delete all references to WGATRAY.EXE.
Be careful only to remove the sections for WGATRAY.EXE

After this you will still see the nag screen before you logon. Even if
you have auto login set up the nag screen will appear. This is because
the Windows Login process is calling the WGALogin DLL. This DLL also
start up the WGATRAY.EXE when boot. To stop this remove execute
permission to the WGALOGIN.DLL file. With execute permission denied; the
nag software will not start.

Before you can rescind execute permission you need to turn off Simple
File Sharing. To turn Simple File Sharing on or off in Windows XP
Professional, follow these steps:

1) Double-click My Computer on the desktop.

2) On the Tools menu, click Folder Options.

3) Click the View tab, and then select the Use Simple File Sharing
(Recommended) check box to turn on Simple File Sharing. (Clear this
check box to turn off this feature.)

Now we can rescind execute permission: Right click the file WGALOGIN.DLL
in your Windows System32 folder in Windows Explorer and open the
Security Tab. Press “Advanced”, clear the Inherit checkbox, Click the
“Copy” button, then Press OK. Select each listed user/group and remove
the "Traverse & Execute" permission for the use/group. Finally Press OK
to apply the permission changes and close the file properties dialog.

Restart the machine.

You can now turn "Use simple file sharing" back on, and system restore
if required.

The text message for the file permission varies in different versions of
Windows even for the same language. There are various release of
Windows, Home, Professional, and several release of each all slightly
different: Your milage may vary!
 
Many Thanks XP Guy but I think all of your post is beyond my capabilities
but many thanks for your patience and replies. I reckon I'm going to have to
do a full install and lose some of the programs I already have. It's amazing
how simply a mistake/wrong action by a so called professional can cause so
much grief. I've tried MS but it seems they are only interested in "selling"
me another copy of what I had already paid for. They keep giving me a premium
rate telephone number and also want £45 to talk to a technician!

Regards,

Dave
 
Leroy YOU ARE A STAR.
After all of the posts on here you came up TRUMPS. No one at MS or on here
must have know about a legit update tool, I certainly didn't and Microsoft
knew exactly the problem I had but they didn't tell me either. I'm very
annoyed with MS as it seems they are only after MONEY and to hell with
Customer Service.
Sorry about the outburst but after all of my correspondence with MS, they
knew my exact problem, and for future information all I had to do was enter
my legit software Key into the Update Tool and "Bobs your Uncle"
Once again,
Many Thanks Leroy.

Dave
 
DaveClark said:
No one at MS or on here must have know about a legit update tool

I know about the tool, but I didn't think that you knew the original key
for your installation.

I've had one or two XP systems where I've wanted to change the product
key (say, where I make an exact clone of an existing drive and I want to
give the clone a different product key).

The MS key change tool has never worked. What happens is that when I
run it, all appears to go well, but upon the first system re-start it
wants to validate the new key with Micro$oft, but during the validation
process it says that they system is already validated, and the system is
then stuck in an endless loop.

MS probably designed the key change tool to work for OEM and Volume
License keys, not the "System Builder" version that I deal with.

Any of you MVP's are welcome to chime in here and comment.
 
The Windows Product Key Update Tool is always undergoing revision.
It should work with any genuine full version Windows XP product key,
including System Builders OEM product keys.


No one at MS or on here must have know about a legit update tool

I know about the tool, but I didn't think that you knew the original key
for your installation.

I've had one or two XP systems where I've wanted to change the product
key (say, where I make an exact clone of an existing drive and I want to
give the clone a different product key).

The MS key change tool has never worked. What happens is that when I
run it, all appears to go well, but upon the first system re-start it
wants to validate the new key with Micro$oft, but during the validation
process it says that they system is already validated, and the system is
then stuck in an endless loop.

MS probably designed the key change tool to work for OEM and Volume
License keys, not the "System Builder" version that I deal with.

Any of you MVP's are welcome to chime in here and comment.
 
Carey Frisch said:
The Windows Product Key Update Tool is always undergoing revision.
It should work with any genuine full version Windows XP product
key, including System Builders OEM product keys.

Well, like I said, I've experienced situations where it got the cloned
drive in an endless validation loop.

The other way that I've also tried is to force a re-validation (some
registry settings can do this, so can a hardware change). When you're
doing the validation, you select the telephone method. There's an
option in that method to change the product key. If you enter a new
key, I'm not sure if you have to continue the telephone method for the
change to take hold, or if you can back out of the telephone method and
contine to validate the system (with the new key) using the on-line
method. Either way I don't think I've had luck with that method as
well.

In any case, let me also ask this:

Regardless of which method I use to give a *working-and-validated*
system a new key, will the system have a "memory" of the old key? Is
the validation process designed to insure that Microsoft knows what the
old key was? Will microsoft black-list the old key (even if it was a
good key before the key-change)?

Can I clone my hard drive, give the clone a new key, validate the clone
+ new-key, without "tainting" or invalidating the original key on the
original drive?
 
Hi Dave
Forget all the instruction of do this and that.
Back up all the directories (except Windows) to DVD etc.
To reformat the hard disk in order to install an older version do this:
Insert a diskette (if not in PC, obtain a 1.44 outside unit via USB) with an
old DOS version installation prog. Format hard drive, partition for the
moment as Dos did not have huge HD.
After formatting insert in CD drive the old original windows prog,
reformatting hard disk etc.
After this insert the upgrade CD.
Restore directories from back up, and re do setup for each, so as to write
to registry.
This will have erased the implanted pirated XP Pro and you are legit again.
You do not need to buy and reinstalling old windows can be done. I did it
several times.
Upgrade at once all progs.
Ciao
 
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