XP networking

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Krystin

I'm all out of ideas. Does anyone know how to get a
computer that is running XP to see two other computer
that have 98'on a home network? I've already tried using
NetBEUI it does not help. If anyone has any suggestions
please let me know. Thank you

Krystin
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If you get an answer to this would you please let me
know. I have the same problem. I have three computers
on a home network. One is running Windows 98SE and the
other two are running Windows ME. I just bought the XP
Media Center and cannot get them to recognize. Like you,
I have tried everything I could think of. I have been
advised (very strongly) NOT to install NETBEUI on my
computer for security reasons.
 
"Krystin" said:
I'm all out of ideas. Does anyone know how to get a
computer that is running XP to see two other computer
that have 98'on a home network? I've already tried using
NetBEUI it does not help. If anyone has any suggestions
please let me know. Thank you

Krystin
(e-mail address removed)
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It's OK to use NetBEUI, but it's never necessary. All networking
functions are available using TCP/IP as the only protocol.

The key to Windows networking us to use the same, single network
protocol on all computers. If the other computers use NetBEUI, then
install NetBEUI on XP and un-bind sharing from TCP/IP on all
computers. If the other computers use TCP/IP, make sure that there
are no firewalls blocking access between computers. In particular,
you must disable XP's Internet Connection Firewall on a local area
network connection. It's for use only on a direct modem connection to
the Internet.
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I have found that xp wont allow win9x systems access unless the
users on the win9x machines have actually logged on .
ie. typed in a password when the win9x system starts up.
Worth a try.
 
Steve said:
It's OK to use NetBEUI, but it's never necessary. All networking
functions are available using TCP/IP as the only protocol.

The key to Windows networking us to use the same, single network
protocol on all computers. If the other computers use NetBEUI, then
install NetBEUI on XP and un-bind sharing from TCP/IP on all
computers. If the other computers use TCP/IP, make sure that there
are no firewalls blocking access between computers. In particular,
you must disable XP's Internet Connection Firewall on a local area
network connection. It's for use only on a direct modem connection to
the Internet.
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You need to have matching userids and passwords on the W98 PC for the
users that are logged on to the XP machines. It may depend on whether
you have multiple users set up on the W98 PCs. I have this working from
an XPPro laptop to a desktop running W98SE. I log on to the XP machine
with a username and password that exactly match a user and password on
the W98 box. It doesn't matter whether anyone is logged on to the 98 box.

HTH

Matt
 
I don't think userID/password matching has anything to do
with file/print sharing, if that's the goal. I had
trouble with getting access to a Me pc that was seen by
my xp home laptop. I tried everything that was mentioned
in this newsgroup, etc. The final thing I tried that
worked was when I right-clicked on mydocuments from the
desktop of the Me pc and clicked on properties. There is
a sharing tab with the ability to specify passwords: read-
only or fullaccess. Originally I had entered a
fullaccess password which did not respond to my laptop.
When I filled in a read-only password and hit apply, my
laptop accepted the fullaccess password and I dont have
to enter it any more.
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Also rememeber to make a network disk with xp. You will
need to do this for a mixed network to work. Otherwise
install ipx/spx protocol and netbeui on all the machines..
you can find netbuei on your xp disk.. This will always
work as long as there are no firewalls.
-----Original Message-----
I don't think userID/password matching has anything to do
with file/print sharing, if that's the goal. I had
trouble with getting access to a Me pc that was seen by
my xp home laptop. I tried everything that was mentioned
in this newsgroup, etc. The final thing I tried that
worked was when I right-clicked on mydocuments from the
desktop of the Me pc and clicked on properties. There is
a sharing tab with the ability to specify passwords: read-
only or fullaccess. Originally I had entered a
fullaccess password which did not respond to my laptop.
When I filled in a read-only password and hit apply, my
laptop accepted the fullaccess password and I dont have
to enter it any more.
-----Original Message-----
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Krystin said:
I'm all out of ideas. Does anyone know how to get a
computer that is running XP to see two other computer
that have 98'on a home network? I've already tried using
NetBEUI it does not help. If anyone has any suggestions
please let me know. Thank you
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First off, get rid of any NETBEUI which may be around on any machine. While
you can install it on XP, MS has decided not to support it so you may as
well get used to using tcp/ip only. If you have ipx/spx etc there, get rid
of them.

Next, TCP/IP only on:

1) Computer connected directly to Internet. Assuming your ISP has auto
config, grab their DNS numbers, allow the ISP to assign IP auto unless you
have to have a static IP in which case fill that number in. In the DNS
section for that same ISP, fill in the DNS numbers. Now go to ADVANCED tab
and click on to "allow other network users to connect through this
computer's internet connection". Note that the network must be ENABLED to
see this option. On the LAN side of the same computer, call it 192.168.0.1
with subnet 255.255.255.0 and make sure firewalls to both ISP and LAN are
off on all machines for now.

2) Computer connected to LAN and not directly to Internet. Assign it as
192.168.0.2 same subnet. Install 192.168.0.1 as gateway in order to allow it
to find out how to get OUT to internet and enable DNS and fill in the DNS
number 192.168.0.1 on that machine. This means it knows how to get names
resolved.

Now, the machine on the lan knows where to find the DNS server and also
Internet. Note to make sure after all this is done, reboot both machines,
make sure firewalls are off and then see if you can see the other machines
and internet on both machines, which you will if your LAN hardware is
working OK.
 
Matt said:
You need to have matching userids and passwords on the W98 PC for the
users that are logged on to the XP machines.
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You dont, actually. You only need that for ease of use. You CAN have
different users and passwords if you are willing to wade through more stuff
to make it work flawlessly. As for me, I prefer to have the same username
and password for ease of use but almost all my business clients dont!
 
Also rememeber to make a network disk with xp. You will
need to do this for a mixed network to work. Otherwise
install ipx/spx protocol and netbeui on all the machines..
you can find netbuei on your xp disk.. This will always
work as long as there are no firewalls.
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Actually you don't need to do that, either. I never did with my 98 machines.
You can set them up manually all using tcp/ip only and it still works just
fine. The thing about the XP Networking Wizard, though, is that it is so dog
easy to use and set up a network quickly that people (myself, too) make the
mistake of thinking they know it all and don't read the windows that pop up
while setting the network up. That is where the trouble starts. I had to
slow down and read them all. With XP using the wizard, it is IMPERATIVE that
you follow EXACTLY what it says. Any deviation and you wont have a working
network.
 
MrJumbles said:
I have found that xp wont allow win9x systems access unless the
users on the win9x machines have actually logged on .
ie. typed in a password when the win9x system starts up.
Worth a try.
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I have to say that doesnt happen with me. 2 x XP Home and 2 x 98SE. See,
with 98, the network is, under normal conditions, up and running before the
user can click on anything. Even if the user REQUIRED that the password be
entered before seeing the desktop for that username, the network is still
there and accessible TO that machine and of course FROM that machine via any
prog that may need network access. That is one of the grave problems with
Windows networking - you can be sitting at the username/password prompt so
you can use your really very personal data (say a machine doing wages) and a
program can still see the data from another machine. This is where having a
logon password is useless if your LAN access is not set up the right way.
 
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