XP Bites Me Again

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XP SP3
unfortunately used a .NET cleanup tool to fix a .NET 4 problem.
An app says it needs .NET 4 to run.
ran the cleanup tool and now the laptop will not get to the desktop.

(Background: tried all morning to download both the .NET 4 web and
direct .NET 4 installer but could not get it to download)

Tried:
safe boot works
i see all my stuff
safe boot with networking works
i see all my stuff including my NAS

safe mode msconfig service and startup
turned off .NET related stuff that I could find
booted to windows background and it stopped.

safe mode restore point to previous
tried several recent restore points
some say did it other say cannot do.
in any event not really restores to allow normal boot.

Other than Safe Mode, boots to my normal windows background and no
more.
Sometimes I get the Personal Setting message box before the win
background.

before I go to Recovery, if I can find it, or attempt to restore image
using Macrium, if I can find it, what else can I try?

If I can get the .NET 4 direct to download on a different PC can I use
that in Safe Mode on the ailing PC to perhaps "fix" it?
 
OldGuy said:
XP SP3
unfortunately used a .NET cleanup tool to fix a .NET 4 problem.
An app says it needs .NET 4 to run.
ran the cleanup tool and now the laptop will not get to the desktop.

(Background: tried all morning to download both the .NET 4 web and
direct .NET 4 installer but could not get it to download)

Tried:
safe boot works
i see all my stuff
safe boot with networking works
i see all my stuff including my NAS

safe mode msconfig service and startup
turned off .NET related stuff that I could find
booted to windows background and it stopped.

safe mode restore point to previous
tried several recent restore points
some say did it other say cannot do.
in any event not really restores to allow normal boot.

Other than Safe Mode, boots to my normal windows background and no more.
Sometimes I get the Personal Setting message box before the win background.

before I go to Recovery, if I can find it, or attempt to restore image
using Macrium, if I can find it, what else can I try?

If I can get the .NET 4 direct to download on a different PC can I use
that in Safe Mode on the ailing PC to perhaps "fix" it?
Click to expand...

There must be a standalone ("redistributable") .NET 4 around somewhere.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=17718

dotNetFx40_Full_x86_x64.exe

Date Published: 2011-02-21
File Size: 48.1 MB

My guess would be, you'll install that, and it won't change anything.

The cleanup tool must have removed something that wasn't .NET. Or,
you had a malware disguised as being part of .NET, and the removal tool
wasn't something the malware author was expecting.

Some parts of Windows may be using .NET, like I had a networking
problem related to .NET. But I doubt the entire desktop would tip over
if it went missing. I don't think every subsystem has a dependency
on it.

And, by this point in time, you must have also accumulated
a good sized collection of .NET downloads. While .NET 4 is
probably intended to be "self sufficient", you could bodge
in the 3.5 version (which includes 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 in one package)
just in case. Then install the 4.0 after it.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=25150

Version: SP1
File Name: dotnetfx35.exe
Date Published: 2008-12-17
File Size: 231.5 MB

I'd be using that one first, because I already have a copy. 242,743,296 bytes.
Just in case the dependency is actually .NET 2.0 based.

And after you've finished the "messing around" phase of your
project, visit Windows Update and patch those up. You can never
have enough patches.

Paul
 
OldGuy said:
Things are a tiny bit better.

I used MSConfig to shut off all Services and Startups.

Win started and got to the desktop but with no WiFi or Ethernet access.
I started turning on via MSConfig some related, I think, networking
items. Too bad there is no help with that. MS falls short on so much.

Anyway I finally got networking going.

I ran the dotNet Cleanup tool and it said it completed successfully.
Cleaned only dotNet 4.

Downloaded the dotNet Web and standalone dotNet installer.

Neither would complete an install giving me nebulous error messages.

I believe what happened originally was that some app that was in the
startup needed dotNet 4 and that app hung up the system so it would not
complete to the desktop. But I have no idea what app did that.

Googled to exhaustion on dotNet 4 install problems but too many links
were broken. Nothing there helped.
Click to expand...

No matter how nebulous, start with the error number.

Paul
 
OldGuy said:
XP SP3
unfortunately used a .NET cleanup tool to fix a .NET 4 problem.
An app says it needs .NET 4 to run.
ran the cleanup tool and now the laptop will not get to the desktop.

(Background: tried all morning to download both the .NET 4 web and direct
.NET 4 installer but could not get it to download)

Tried:
safe boot works
i see all my stuff
safe boot with networking works
i see all my stuff including my NAS

safe mode msconfig service and startup
turned off .NET related stuff that I could find
booted to windows background and it stopped.

safe mode restore point to previous
tried several recent restore points
some say did it other say cannot do.
in any event not really restores to allow normal boot.

Other than Safe Mode, boots to my normal windows background and no more.
Sometimes I get the Personal Setting message box before the win
background.

before I go to Recovery, if I can find it, or attempt to restore image
using Macrium, if I can find it, what else can I try?

If I can get the .NET 4 direct to download on a different PC can I use
that in Safe Mode on the ailing PC to perhaps "fix" it?
Click to expand...


Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Readme

<
http://download.microsoft.com/download/B/5/7/B57D25A2-B3FD-4668-91B9-DB43B6BD910D/NETFx4RTM.htm ?
 
"Paul" 2.1.1.3 The .NET Framework 1.0 cannot be installed after the .NET
Framework 4 is installed
The .NET Framework 1.0 cannot be installed after the .NET Framework 4 is
installed. The .NET Framework 1.0 must be installed before the .NET
Framework 4 is installed.

To resolve this issue:

1.Go to control panel and open programs and features.
2.Uninstall the .NET Framework 4 Extended.
3.Uninstall the .NET Framework 4 Client Profile.
4.Install the .NET Framework 1.0.
5.Install the .NET Framework 4.
 
"Paul" 2.1.1.3 The .NET Framework 1.0 cannot be installed after the .NET
Framework 4 is installed
The .NET Framework 1.0 cannot be installed after the .NET Framework 4 is
installed. The .NET Framework 1.0 must be installed before the .NET Framework
4 is installed.

To resolve this issue:

1.Go to control panel and open programs and features.
2.Uninstall the .NET Framework 4 Extended.
3.Uninstall the .NET Framework 4 Client Profile.
4.Install the .NET Framework 1.0.
5.Install the .NET Framework 4.
Click to expand...

I see .NET Framework 4 Client Profile but not .NET Framework 4
Extended.
Is this .NET Framework 4 Extended the one that may be keeping my app
from runing?
What's this one for?
 
OldGuy said:
I see .NET Framework 4 Client Profile but not .NET Framework 4 Extended.
Is this .NET Framework 4 Extended the one that may be keeping my app from
runing?
What's this one for?
Click to expand...


Install the .NET Framework 1.0. first

It is need to Install all .Net
From 2 to 4

Afterwards you can uninstall
..NET Framework 1.0.

From The control panel and open programs and features.

Don't use a third party
Software for
..Net Removable
 
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