X1950 AGP with 300W PSU?

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Does anyone know if I could install an ATI X1950 AGP, with my
motherboard having a 300W PSU?

I have spare connections, but I don't think that my power is enough.

Can I confirm?

Thanks
 
Yea really, you need to take all components into consideration. This might
help you though:

With a very old 300watt psu I ran the p4s533mx mobo with 2.3 ghz cpu, 1 gig
ram, agp4x video card (that also needs a molex connector from my psu), 1
hdd, one fan. Now if I plugged up one of the cd roms, the system slowed down
and even started making a sluggish type noise. Took forever to boot up and
when it finally booted up the thing ran more like an old 486 pc rather than
a pentium computer. Hooked up one more cd rom and the computer wouldn't boot
at all.

But even without the roms I was still pushing it with that agp4x card, which
also had its own fan by the way, because it is a huge drain on a 300 watt
psu that really was alread being asked to do alot. I also heard the Athlons
were more picky than the Pentiums about running like I was running.
 
Does anyone know if I could install an ATI X1950 AGP, with my
motherboard having a 300W PSU?

I have spare connections, but I don't think that my power is enough.

Can I confirm?

Thanks
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The PCI Express version is 65.7W or so. The AGP version has an extra
chip on it (Rialto bridge), but is otherwise clocked the same. So
estimate about 70W power consumption. Depending on your processor
and other 12V loads, that is going to hit that 300W pretty hard.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/x1950pro-gf7900gs_6.html

Also, you might want to verify your AGP slot is capable. You
didn't say what motherboard you've got. For questions like this,
listing a full hardware inventory is a good idea.

Paul
 
That more powerful card requires a larger PSU, so you don't endanger the
card OR your motherboard with a straining underpowered PSU.
 
Does anyone know if I could install an ATI X1950 AGP, with my
motherboard having a 300W PSU?

I have spare connections, but I don't think that my power is enough.

Can I confirm?

Thanks
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You cannot use an average 300W PSU. Some higher quality new
PSU with high 12V current might work but are seldom only
300W, it makes little sense for someone to build an
otherwise strong PSU then cripple it unless it's an OEM that
has strict control over the other system parameters so they
can spec what is more cost effective.

You failed to mention which 300W PSU or the rest of the
system so we can't tell you if it might struggle along for
awhile before it fails or fail (to work) right away.
 
He's probably gonna come back and set us all straight. But I doubt he's
running a barebones comp, so it's safe to say the direct answer to his
quesion is "No." And I hope he doesn't get mad at my extra comments :)

But he's got to have a pretty recent mobo. To run that card he's talking
about, his mobo will have to have at least a pentium 2.4ghz (or cpu
equivalent). I sure would like to know how he came about having such a
system with a 300watt psu though. I don't think even the little Walmart
computers last year were being sold with a psu less than 350watts. He's
probably a gamer on a tight budget if he's trying to go this route :) I bet
you wouldnt notice one bit of difference on your games between this video
card you want and a regular 128mb agp4x. But if you don't have much comp ram
(with 300w psu I bet you dont) then you might be wanting a 256mb agp card.
You'd need a stronger psu for that too. Two more things to think about, is
that 1) even if you do buy this new video card, you wont be using it in the
future comps so why spend so much money on something like this? Go to
newegg.com and buy a cheaper agp4x card and then take the money you save
from not buying the big prize and buy a better psu with it. 2) Your mobo is
probably going to be the "bottleneck" meaning it will hold you back from
experiencing any real difference in gameplay from this video card you are
asking about. I'm basing this on you having a 300watt psu, and I know my
whole post is speculation, ok.

And if youre not a gamer and dont want this extra advice don't make me feel
stupid for giving it, ok :)
 
hot said:
He's probably gonna come back and set us all straight. But I
doubt he's running a barebones comp, so it's safe to say the
direct answer to his quesion is "No." And I hope he doesn't get
mad at my extra comments :)
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:58:09 -0600, "hot july"

I bet
you wouldnt notice one bit of difference on your games between this video
card you want and a regular 128mb agp4x. But if you don't have much comp ram
(with 300w psu I bet you dont) then you might be wanting a 256mb agp card.
You'd need a stronger psu for that too.
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Even on a 4 year old system an 8X (era) AGP card with 256MB
memory will easily have benefits on the more popular games
of the past couple years, let alone next year. The benefit
won't be as much with a lesser system of course but it'll
still be a benefit - often the real need is not 100 FPS, its
just a playable framerate.

One would have to make careful choices to get 300W to work
good though, from an old 4X/128MB card an nVidia 7600GS
would be a good choice, but it's significantly slower than
what the OP proposed, wouldn't have as long a viable
lifespan.

Same issue different day I suppose, a modern system needs a
stronger psu than in past years and although not glamorous,
it's just as necessary as some other boring parts like a DVD
drive, case, mounting screws, etc. In short, higher powered
modern systems with modern gaming video cards are the whole
reason why the higher capacity PSU even exist for a *PC*, it
is never a good idea to try to squeeze the last watt out of
one if it isn't rated for that duty.
 
LMAO......I was talking to the people who had already replied in the thread
and who are following it....dont care much to get new posters.....cya
 
Kony said <"Even on a 4 year old system an 8X (era) AGP card with 256MB
memory will easily have benefits on the more popular games of the past
couple years, let alone next year. The benefit won't be as much with a
lesser system of course but it'll still be a benefit -">
You had just told him he couldnt run it, and now you talking him into it?
:)

I returned my ati 256mb agp 4x I was running on my 478 socket mobo and kept
the lesser 128mb agp instead....because there was no difference between the
two in any of the graphic and resource intensive games I was playing. But
there was a huge difference in price between the two cards. Now there
certainly was a difference when I went from pci to agp though. AGP4x cards
will still be running all the new games this year and next just fine too.
And the new Lost Planet game is running just great with mine.

Boy I'm gonna feel stupid if he isn't even a gamer. I shouldnt have assumed
that any way. Consoles have run pc games into the ground....except the role
playing games.

I better leave this thread alone now....kind of pointless not even knowing
his mobo, cpu, and ram....cya Kony.
 
Ah, the posting police showed up.
Why is it some people have so much time in their lives that they actually
worry and fret about how others post in a newsgroup??

=====================================
"Some people are born mediocre, some people achieve mediocrity, and
some people have mediocrity thrust upon them." Joseph Heller
 
LMAO......I was talking to the people who had already replied in the thread
and who are following it....dont care much to get new posters.....cya
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Please include the portions of the prior post you are
replying to. Thank you.
 
Ah, the posting police showed up.
Why is it some people have so much time in their lives that they actually
worry and fret about how others post in a newsgroup??
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.... so you do the same thing except without any constructive
goal. Ponder the difference.
 
Kony said <"Even on a 4 year old system an 8X (era) AGP card with 256MB
memory will easily have benefits on the more popular games of the past
couple years, let alone next year. The benefit won't be as much with a
lesser system of course but it'll still be a benefit -">

You had just told him he couldnt run it, and now you talking him into it?
:)
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Reread what I wrote. The card upgrade is likely to have
benefits, but the PSU may not be adequate.


I returned my ati 256mb agp 4x I was running on my 478 socket mobo and kept
the lesser 128mb agp instead....because there was no difference between the
two in any of the graphic and resource intensive games I was playing.
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Depends on the game and amount of eyecandy.

But
there was a huge difference in price between the two cards. Now there
certainly was a difference when I went from pci to agp though. AGP4x cards
will still be running all the new games this year and next just fine too.
And the new Lost Planet game is running just great with mine.
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AGP 4X is now a little bit of a performance loss compared to
AGP 8X. PCI Express is far less of an upgrade at present,
but some AGP cards with similar name aren't as fast for
other reasons like lower clockrate or memory, if not that
the whole system is older and may have slower CPU, memory,
etc.

Boy I'm gonna feel stupid if he isn't even a gamer. I shouldnt have assumed
that any way. Consoles have run pc games into the ground....except the role
playing games.

I better leave this thread alone now....kind of pointless not even knowing
his mobo, cpu, and ram....cya Kony.
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Consoles have not run PC games into the ground, they're both
viable alternatives. Give PC hardware some time and it
surpasses consoles, it's all a matter of product lifecycles.

There's not much point to paying more for a X1950 unless
it's for gaming, that may be a reasonable assumption?
 
You Know Who ~ said:
Ah, the posting police showed up.
Why is it some people have so much time in their lives that they
actually worry and fret about how others post in a newsgroup??
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They're so anal that when the vaccuum cleaner fails, they can just scoot
around on the floor with no pants on and get splinters up their arse.
 
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