WOW! But, jeeze...

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WOW!
I have just tried DamnSmall Linux, and I am much impressed! It is clean,
fast and quite impressive. This little program boots up and recognizes
everything accept my modem, which is pretty much what I expected because it
is a winmodem (but I think that there is support for this modem, if I knew
what to do with the driver once I got it!). Knoppix was a no-go for me
after nearly 41 hours of download (ran an MD5 hash and it matched, but even
after 3 CD burns it errors out partway during boot-up).

But, jeeze...
Nothing about this OS is easy to understand. I'm a very quick learner, and
I have spent some hours poking around this little debian OS, and a bunch of
time on the Internet, but why does it have to be such a secret on how to run
this dang thing? It seems to me that the debian users are soma sort of
closed-society that has a secret meeting place and seems to talk a different
language. Where to go to get help? Where to go to be able to even get my
modem working? The DamanSmall forum does not seem to contain much info.
Heck, even if my modem was detected, I probably still could not get it
working. I have knocked around the net and usenet, but have not found the
golden-egg of debian how-to-do.

If I could, I would...
Bottom line is, that if I could get this little sucker all figured out, I
would run it a lot, then gradually go to a complete Debian hard-drive
installed OS, because I really like its stability, cleanness, minimalistic
approach and speed.

I am total Linux newbie... What now...?

HippyGuy



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Subject: WOW! But, jeeze...
From: "HippyGuy" (e-mail address removed)
Date: 26/01/2004 8:07 AM E. Australia Standard Time
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WOW!
I have just tried DamnSmall Linux, and I am much impressed! It is clean,
fast and quite impressive. This little program boots up and recognizes
everything accept my modem, which is pretty much what I expected because it
is a winmodem (but I think that there is support for this modem, if I knew
what to do with the driver once I got it!). Knoppix was a no-go for me
after nearly 41 hours of download (ran an MD5 hash and it matched, but even
after 3 CD burns it errors out partway during boot-up).

But, jeeze...
Nothing about this OS is easy to understand. I'm a very quick learner, and
I have spent some hours poking around this little debian OS, and a bunch of
time on the Internet, but why does it have to be such a secret on how to run
this dang thing? It seems to me that the debian users are soma sort of
closed-society that has a secret meeting place and seems to talk a different
language. Where to go to get help? Where to go to be able to even get my
modem working? The DamanSmall forum does not seem to contain much info.
Heck, even if my modem was detected, I probably still could not get it
working. I have knocked around the net and usenet, but have not found the
golden-egg of debian how-to-do.

If I could, I would...
Bottom line is, that if I could get this little sucker all figured out, I
would run it a lot, then gradually go to a complete Debian hard-drive
installed OS, because I really like its stability, cleanness, minimalistic
approach and speed.

I am total Linux newbie... What now...?

HippyGuy

if you are a linux newbie then do your self a favour and BUY a copy of
knoppix,its not dear and its a lot easyer to use than Damn Small Linux.
 
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Subject: WOW! But, jeeze...
From: "HippyGuy" (e-mail address removed)
Date: 26/01/2004 8:07 AM E. Australia Standard Time
Message-id: <[email protected]>

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WOW!
I have just tried DamnSmall Linux, and I am much impressed! It is
clean, fast and quite impressive. This little program boots up and
recognizes everything accept my modem, which is pretty much what I
expected because it is a winmodem (but I think that there is support
for this modem, if I knew what to do with the driver once I got it!).
Knoppix was a no-go for me after nearly 41 hours of download (ran an
MD5 hash and it matched, but even after 3 CD burns it errors out
partway during boot-up).

But, jeeze...
Nothing about this OS is easy to understand. I'm a very quick
learner, and I have spent some hours poking around this little debian
OS, and a bunch of time on the Internet, but why does it have to be
such a secret on how to run this dang thing? It seems to me that the
debian users are soma sort of closed-society that has a secret meeting
place and seems to talk a different language. Where to go to get
help? Where to go to be able to even get my modem working? The
DamanSmall forum does not seem to contain much info. Heck, even if my
modem was detected, I probably still could not get it working. I have
knocked around the net and usenet, but have not found the golden-egg
of debian how-to-do.

If I could, I would...
Bottom line is, that if I could get this little sucker all figured
out, I would run it a lot, then gradually go to a complete Debian
hard-drive installed OS, because I really like its stability,
cleanness, minimalistic approach and speed.

I am total Linux newbie... What now...?

HippyGuy

if you are a linux newbie then do your self a favour and BUY a copy of
knoppix,its not dear and its a lot easyer to use than Damn Small
Linux.
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You wanna buy something easy and that works. try Xandros. Simply amazing
compared with other distros.. but should have a quick machine IMHO
 
You wanna buy something easy and that works. try Xandros. Simply amazing
compared with other distros.. but should have a quick machine IMHO
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Since I am working on being a Linux newbie what would a "quick machine"
be for
Xandros in particular ?
 
Nothing about this OS is easy to understand. I'm a very quick learner, and
I have spent some hours poking around this little debian OS, and a bunch of
time on the Internet, but why does it have to be such a secret on how to run
this dang thing? It seems to me that the debian users are soma sort of
closed-society that has a secret meeting place and seems to talk a different
language. Where to go to get help?
Click to expand...

Exactly. Those who know the answers do not speak our language.
And not only that, they also hate us for asking simple questions. :-)
Where to go to be able to even get my
modem working? The DamanSmall forum does not seem to contain much info.
Heck, even if my modem was detected, I probably still could not get it
working. I have knocked around the net and usenet, but have not found the
golden-egg of debian how-to-do.

If I could, I would...
Bottom line is, that if I could get this little sucker all figured out, I
would run it a lot, then gradually go to a complete Debian hard-drive
installed OS, because I really like its stability, cleanness, minimalistic
approach and speed.

I am total Linux newbie... What now...?
Click to expand...

I am too.

I have just spent hours to download and install Winlinux.

It didn't behave as it should, so I started editing the text files which
make up this operative system.

I have no idea what the language is called, linuxeese maybe, but I am
learning to change a thing here and there.

The install program wanted to check the file systems and said there is
something wrong with your FAT file system, please return to windows and fix
it, and rebooted.
There was nothing wrong with my file system, I ran scandisk and checked,
but this installation program kept on throwing me out every time.

So I found the program text which did this and commented out the reboot
line, and got it to jump over that command.
In the process of finding out how different text files called each other I
inserted comments in the files, like this:
echo "this is parts.rc running"
echo "etc/rc.d/rc.winlinux line 20"
These lines are seen on screen so I know where the program is in its
execution.

Suddenly I find myself re-writing programs in linux command language,
learning more and more about the inner workings of this operative system.

I wish there was an editor for this language, which could help by warning
me about faulty syntax and could give context sensitive help.
And explain the boot-up sequense of linux.

The good thing about Winlinux is that its file system is compatible with
windows, and placed on one of my usual hard disks, so I can study its files
from windows and use my favorite text editor to rewrite its execution
files, then I reboot into winlinux and I can see the results of my
rewriting.

Somebody who wants to try winlinux should know that it is not easy to
download. I needed to set Download Express to use 16 threads to get it
downloaded in two hours.
I have never used more than 3 download threads for a file before.

Winlinux runs only on win95, 98 and ME, not on win2k or xp.
It copies the hardware setup from windows so it handles that part of the
installation better than any other linux I have ever seen.
It takes the settings for the network card for example, including ip number
and everything without you having to write it in yourself.
Sound card, display driver, no problem, it just takes what you use in
windows and uses that for its configuration files.

I just had to change the keyboard settings to my country and the hardware
setup was ready.

To download winlinux you have to fill in a few things on a web site, a name
and an email address, write whatever you like, it doesn't matter, push the
button and you are in the download page. Fire up your best downloader
program and use one of the two download sites.
I think the first link is the better one.

http://www.winlinux.net/download/
 
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WOW!

But, jeeze...

If I could, I would...

I am total Linux newbie... What now...?
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Thanks to all that responded to my post.

Well, after much searches and muches readings, I am coming to the conclusion
that I have jumped the gun just a little bit. 2004 is the year of the
DeskTop Debian Linux, and there are many new versions and retail distros in
start-up right now. So, I believe that if I just be patient and wait, that
soon what I want and need will be here. I will continue to keep my eye on
this, and just as soon as a easy transition Debian based DeskTop distro come
about, you can bet I will hop on it quick. One that is nearly there now is
"Libranet" (their "Version 2.7 Classic" is free).
http://www.libranet.com/

I have found some interesting how-to's and such, and am planing to do much
more reading. I plan to continue to play with DamnSmall Linux, and you
never know I just may get it figured out. ;)

HippyGuy



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Well, after much searches and muches readings, I am coming
to the conclusion that I have jumped the gun just a little
bit. 2004 is the year of the DeskTop Debian Linux, and
there are many new versions and retail distros in start-up
right now. So, I believe that if I just be patient and
wait, that soon what I want and need will be here. I will
continue to keep my eye on this, and just as soon as a easy
transition Debian based DeskTop distro come about, you can
bet I will hop on it quick.
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Have you checked out Mepis? It's a Debian based live CD, here:
http://mepis.org/
 
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Have you checked out Mepis? It's a Debian based live CD, here:
http://mepis.org/
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Hey, mepis looks very interesting and I sure like all of the nice
screenshots! :) It has the same ability as does Libranet, in that you can
use it to keep up-to-date with Debian, but in this case it is for
"Unstable". Very bleeding edge, and uses a custom kernel too. Not sure
that I care for this so much, I mean, it would be very fun to play with, but
too risky for my day-to-day stuff, you know? I will do more study/reading
on this distro and for sure keep and eye on it. Thanks a bunch! :)

More on Libranet...
This review explains how to use the free Libranet Version 2.7 to upgrade to
the newest Debian versions of all files and programs! :)
http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5061 (page 1)
http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5061&page=2 (page 2)

HippyGuy



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