Work around for workart

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Here's a new topic to keep the apparent discussion etiquette

Would somebody be so kind as to view

http://www.chuzzers.co.u/q/

and advise me if there is a work around to the word art I have used for the
q at the start of this page.

I initially tried to do this with a table but failed - though perhaps it is
possible that way?

chuzzers
 
Reply to wally saying:

"I don't know about the Word Art, but you have fallen into another trap. For
the sake of art, you have come up with something that is difficult to read.
That's always a mistake. Don't let the art get in the way of readability."

Do you think the readability of the start would make somebody not answer the
questions? Readability of the enitial paragraph is insignificant otherwise.
It's just my pointless ramblings :). the questions are what matters.
 
Word Art as used on this board refers to the Word Art that Micorsoft Office
programs allow to be inserted into them (e.g. Word, Excel, etc). The 'q' on
your page is a gif (as it should be) and thus doesn't fit the definition of
Word Art.
 
Word Art may be rendered as a gif by some browsers (usually pretty crappy gif).


| Word Art as used on this board refers to the Word Art that Micorsoft Office
| programs allow to be inserted into them (e.g. Word, Excel, etc). The 'q' on
| your page is a gif (as it should be) and thus doesn't fit the definition of
| Word Art.
|
| "doug" wrote:
|
| > Here's a new topic to keep the apparent discussion etiquette
| >
| > Would somebody be so kind as to view
| >
| > http://www.chuzzers.co.u/q/
| >
| > and advise me if there is a work around to the word art I have used for the
| > q at the start of this page.
| >
| > I initially tried to do this with a table but failed - though perhaps it is
| > possible that way?
| >
| > chuzzers
 
But his source actually calls src="index_files/image001.gif" which is the
'q'. Seems all browsers would display that gif.
 
Interesting. perhaps I should get people on a range of different browsers to
try viewing the page just to make sure.

However if it is definitely a gif and can be viewed on all browsers then the
idea that word art is a trap is wrong when using FP? As I was using word art
in FP.

chuzzers
 
Yah, but I think that may be an image generated by vml or fp or something...we'd need one of the gurus to weigh-in on that.


| But his source actually calls src="index_files/image001.gif" which is the
| 'q'. Seems all browsers would display that gif.
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash Gordon®)" wrote:
|
| > Word Art may be rendered as a gif by some browsers (usually pretty crappy gif).
| >
| >
| > | Word Art as used on this board refers to the Word Art that Micorsoft Office
| > | programs allow to be inserted into them (e.g. Word, Excel, etc). The 'q' on
| > | your page is a gif (as it should be) and thus doesn't fit the definition of
| > | Word Art.
| > |
| > | "doug" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Here's a new topic to keep the apparent discussion etiquette
| > | >
| > | > Would somebody be so kind as to view
| > | >
| > | > http://www.chuzzers.co.u/q/
| > | >
| > | > and advise me if there is a work around to the word art I have used for the
| > | > q at the start of this page.
| > | >
| > | > I initially tried to do this with a table but failed - though perhaps it is
| > | > possible that way?
| > | >
| > | > chuzzers
| >
 
As an experienced editor, I can tell you that if at any point the text is
unreadable, many readers will not go further. It is an insult to the reader
to post unreadable text.

Wally S
 
The "q" is WordArt. The reference to the .gif is the poor quality
down-level image used to substitute in other (non-IE, non-Windows)
browsers.

Word Art (on this board) also refers to the option on the FrontPage
Drawing Toolbar and on the Insert Menu for adding WordArt to the page.
All VML objects (WordArt, Text-boxes, and every other object on the
Drawing toolbar) should be avoided in a publicly accessible web site,
since VML can only be seen in IE5.5 and later running on Windows.
 
I have changed it to a jpg now.

Is it still unreadable wally? Or was it just because it was wordart when you
viewed it.

chuzzers
 
I can't get on right now. I keep getting "page cannot be displayed." I'll
try again later. In any case, what was unreadable was not the "q" but the
text behind it.

Wally S
 
the url is missing the k in "uk"


| I can't get on right now. I keep getting "page cannot be displayed." I'll
| try again later. In any case, what was unreadable was not the "q" but the
| text behind it.
|
| Wally S
|
| | > I have changed it to a jpg now.
| >
| > Is it still unreadable wally? Or was it just because it was wordart when
| you
| > viewed it.
| >
| > chuzzers
| >
| > "Ronx" wrote:
| >
| > > The "q" is WordArt. The reference to the .gif is the poor quality
| > > down-level image used to substitute in other (non-IE, non-Windows)
| > > browsers.
| > >
| > > Word Art (on this board) also refers to the option on the FrontPage
| > > Drawing Toolbar and on the Insert Menu for adding WordArt to the page.
| > > All VML objects (WordArt, Text-boxes, and every other object on the
| > > Drawing toolbar) should be avoided in a publicly accessible web site,
| > > since VML can only be seen in IE5.5 and later running on Windows.
| > > --
| > > Ron Symonds
| > > Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > >
| > > | > > > Word Art as used on this board refers to the Word Art that Micorsoft
| > > > Office
| > > > programs allow to be inserted into them (e.g. Word, Excel, etc).
| > > > The 'q' on
| > > > your page is a gif (as it should be) and thus doesn't fit the
| > > > definition of
| > > > Word Art.
| > > >
| > > > "doug" wrote:
| > > >
| > > >> Here's a new topic to keep the apparent discussion etiquette
| > > >>
| > > >> Would somebody be so kind as to view
| > > >>
| > > >> http://www.chuzzers.co.u/q/
| > > >>
| > > >> and advise me if there is a work around to the word art I have used
| > > >> for the
| > > >> q at the start of this page.
| > > >>
| > > >> I initially tried to do this with a table but failed - though
| > > >> perhaps it is
| > > >> possible that way?
| > > >>
| > > >> chuzzers
| > >
| > >
| > >
|
|
 
Got it. Here's the problem. If the browser window is at 1024 x 768,
everything is readable, but if the browser opens at 800 x 600 (which was the
last setting I used in FP), then the text slides under the "q" and becomes
difficult to decipher. You need to re-design your page so that it will come
out right at any resolution. One solution would be to lay out the top
section in a two-column table, with the giant "q" in the left column and the
text in the right.

Wally S

message the url is missing the k in "uk"


| I can't get on right now. I keep getting "page cannot be displayed." I'll
| try again later. In any case, what was unreadable was not the "q" but the
| text behind it.
|
| Wally S
|
| | > I have changed it to a jpg now.
| >
| > Is it still unreadable wally? Or was it just because it was wordart when
| you
| > viewed it.
| >
| > chuzzers
| >
| > "Ronx" wrote:
| >
| > > The "q" is WordArt. The reference to the .gif is the poor quality
| > > down-level image used to substitute in other (non-IE, non-Windows)
| > > browsers.
| > >
| > > Word Art (on this board) also refers to the option on the FrontPage
| > > Drawing Toolbar and on the Insert Menu for adding WordArt to the page.
| > > All VML objects (WordArt, Text-boxes, and every other object on the
| > > Drawing toolbar) should be avoided in a publicly accessible web site,
| > > since VML can only be seen in IE5.5 and later running on Windows.
| > > --
| > > Ron Symonds
| > > Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > >
| > > | > > > Word Art as used on this board refers to the Word Art that Micorsoft
| > > > Office
| > > > programs allow to be inserted into them (e.g. Word, Excel, etc).
| > > > The 'q' on
| > > > your page is a gif (as it should be) and thus doesn't fit the
| > > > definition of
| > > > Word Art.
| > > >
| > > > "doug" wrote:
| > > >
| > > >> Here's a new topic to keep the apparent discussion etiquette
| > > >>
| > > >> Would somebody be so kind as to view
| > > >>
| > > >> http://www.chuzzers.co.uk/q/
| > > >>
| > > >> and advise me if there is a work around to the word art I have used
| > > >> for the
| > > >> q at the start of this page.
| > > >>
| > > >> I initially tried to do this with a table but failed - though
| > > >> perhaps it is
| > > >> possible that way?
| > > >>
| > > >> chuzzers
| > >
| > >
| > >
|
|
 
Thanks wally. Will do that.

I had actually done that but then I went back to an old version of the page.
Will sort it out.

Thanks for the advice :)
 
Glad to help. I would have filled out the questionnaire, but the only thing
I know about Finland is my Nokia cell phone.

Wally S
 
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