Woe is me

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The scenario:
3 Computers......1 W2k Server connected to a dial-up to the Internet, 2 XP
Pro laptops acting as workstations and wishing to share the W2k internet
connection. There is an active connection with AOhL on the server. It
appears that it can't be shared. When right-clicking and selecting
properties, nothing happens. That aside, I created another dialup to a
reputable ISP. This connection does allow me to share the connection.

My question is, How do I share this connection with the XP computers? I find
plenty of info in help for enabling ICS on XP, but none on using ICS enabled
on the W2k computer.

More info.........When setting up the LAN, I had much trouble getting the
WS's to see any of the workgroup computers. I had assigned them IP addresses
and subnet masks. The Server could see all 3 computers, the XP machine could
not see any. I was able to ping any computer from any other computer. I
could not map a drive to the WS's. Path not found. Everyone has
administrator rights. Everyone has rights to the specified folder in the
server. The only way I could make connections was to install netbeui.

I am befuddled and spending much time at the website Practically Networked.
I am not making much progress. Is my workstation problem a permissions
problem or what? and how to access the internet from the workstations?

Thanks and sorry this is so long.
 
Ken,
I surmised as much. That being the case, do you have any ideas on the rest
of the post?
Thanks for your response.

Ken Wickes said:
Unfortunately AOL doesn't support ICS

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321644

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MrB said:
The scenario:
3 Computers......1 W2k Server connected to a dial-up to the Internet, 2 XP
Pro laptops acting as workstations and wishing to share the W2k internet
connection. There is an active connection with AOhL on the server. It
appears that it can't be shared. When right-clicking and selecting
properties, nothing happens. That aside, I created another dialup to a
reputable ISP. This connection does allow me to share the connection.

My question is, How do I share this connection with the XP computers? I find
plenty of info in help for enabling ICS on XP, but none on using ICS enabled
on the W2k computer.

More info.........When setting up the LAN, I had much trouble getting the
WS's to see any of the workgroup computers. I had assigned them IP addresses
and subnet masks. The Server could see all 3 computers, the XP machine could
not see any. I was able to ping any computer from any other computer. I
could not map a drive to the WS's. Path not found. Everyone has
administrator rights. Everyone has rights to the specified folder in the
server. The only way I could make connections was to install netbeui.

I am befuddled and spending much time at the website Practically Networked.
I am not making much progress. Is my workstation problem a permissions
problem or what? and how to access the internet from the workstations?

Thanks and sorry this is so long.
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Did you have NetBIOS over TCP/IP enabled as per Practically Networked?

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Ken Wickes [MSFT]
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MrB said:
Ken,
I surmised as much. That being the case, do you have any ideas on the rest
of the post?
Thanks for your response.

Ken Wickes said:
Unfortunately AOL doesn't support ICS

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321644

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


MrB said:
The scenario:
3 Computers......1 W2k Server connected to a dial-up to the Internet,
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XP I
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"MrB" said:
The scenario:
3 Computers......1 W2k Server connected to a dial-up to the Internet, 2 XP
Pro laptops acting as workstations and wishing to share the W2k internet
connection. There is an active connection with AOhL on the server. It
appears that it can't be shared. When right-clicking and selecting
properties, nothing happens. That aside, I created another dialup to a
reputable ISP. This connection does allow me to share the connection.

My question is, How do I share this connection with the XP computers? I find
plenty of info in help for enabling ICS on XP, but none on using ICS enabled
on the W2k computer.

More info.........When setting up the LAN, I had much trouble getting the
WS's to see any of the workgroup computers. I had assigned them IP addresses
and subnet masks. The Server could see all 3 computers, the XP machine could
not see any. I was able to ping any computer from any other computer. I
could not map a drive to the WS's. Path not found. Everyone has
administrator rights. Everyone has rights to the specified folder in the
server. The only way I could make connections was to install netbeui.

I am befuddled and spending much time at the website Practically Networked.
I am not making much progress. Is my workstation problem a permissions
problem or what? and how to access the internet from the workstations?

Thanks and sorry this is so long.
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As Ken said, it isn't possible to use ICS to share an AOL dial-up
connection. Here's a free proxy server program that might work for
you -- I've run it on Windows XP to share an AOL 8 dial-up connection.
I don't know if it will work on W2k Server or with an AOL 9 dial-up
connection:

AnalogX Proxy
http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/proxy.htm

The other computers won't be able to log into AOL, because AOL only
allows one screen name to log in at a time. They should be able to
use other Internet programs, like Internet Explorer, email programs,
news readers, etc.

NOTE: To protect your network and prevent malicious use by Internet
hackers, read and follow the suggestions in the following message that
appears when you run AnalogX:

WARNING - Proxy is currently running in an open state!

The proxy server is currently running in an open state, which
should only be used when you initially install the proxy server or
if you are attempting to verify that everything is configured
properly. Please read the security section of the documentation
for information on how to secure the proxy once it is successfully
configured - when it is running in a closed state this message will
no longer appear. When the proxy is running in an open state, it
is visible to other computers on the Internet and could potentially
be used by spammers or other Internet users to mask their
activities.

If a network only works after adding NetBEUI, something is wrong with
the TCP/IP configuration. These tips usually solve such problems:

1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection Firewall on
local area network connections -- it's for use only on a direct modem
connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all other
firewalls while troubleshooting. Details here:

Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/ic_firewall.htm

2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing. If the network
needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer Sharing from all
but one of them. Details here:

Windows XP Network Protocols
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp/network_protocols.htm

3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all computers.
Details here:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/netbt.htm

4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type" at the
beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer" (which should
actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It means that the
computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available on a
peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.

If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this key:

HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parameters

and delete these values if they're present:

NodeType
DhcpNodeType

Reboot, then try network access again.

If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again, create a DWORD
value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast" or 4 for
"Mixed".

For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:

Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;160177

TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314053
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

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Yes, NB over TCP/IP is enabled.

Ken Wickes said:
Did you have NetBIOS over TCP/IP enabled as per Practically Networked?

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Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


MrB said:
Ken,
I surmised as much. That being the case, do you have any ideas on the rest
of the post?
Thanks for your response.

Ken Wickes said:
Unfortunately AOL doesn't support ICS

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=321644

--

Ken Wickes [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


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Steve Winograd,
Thanks for the detailed response. I believe peer to peer is in fact showing
as the node type. I won't get a chance to check this until Monday. Is it
necessary to have a gateway specified or is assigning an IP address and
Subnet Mask all that is required? Again, thanks for the details.
MrB
 
"MrB" said:
Steve Winograd,
Thanks for the detailed response. I believe peer to peer is in fact showing
as the node type. I won't get a chance to check this until Monday. Is it
necessary to have a gateway specified or is assigning an IP address and
Subnet Mask all that is required? Again, thanks for the details.
MrB
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You're welcome, MrB. A default gateway specification isn't needed to
access a typical LAN. It is needed to access a LAN that has more than
one subnet or to access the Internet through something other than a
proxy server.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
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