Wish to DELETE stuff fm Documents and Settings folder

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Wayne

Due to an unfortunate selection of partition size for 'C' when originally
configured - 9.75GB (apps, data and other are on D, E, etc.)

I continue to move, try to delete unnecessary folders.

Our machine has two accounts. When XP was installed, a CRLF was executed
for password.

Do I need to retain folders: All Users and Administrator? What about
Default User?

Tks!

Wayne
 
Wayne said:
Due to an unfortunate selection of partition size for 'C' when originally
configured - 9.75GB (apps, data and other are on D, E, etc.)

I continue to move, try to delete unnecessary folders.

Our machine has two accounts. When XP was installed, a CRLF was executed
for password.

Do I need to retain folders: All Users and Administrator? What
about Default User?

Tks!

Wayne
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they are system folders and as such should NOT be deleted.
I run XP with Office 2003, Open Office, The Gimp and several other apps on
10GB . In fact I have 2.8 GB free. So 9.75 GB ought to be perfectly
adequate.
 
Do I need to retain folders: All Users and Administrator? What
about Default User?
Click to expand...

Yes and yes.

Default Local Disk Folders

Folder Name: Documents and Settings
Contents: Account information for each user who is granted access on the
computer. Each user account is represented by a subfolder assigned the
user name. Folders under each user account folder include My Documents,
Desktop, and Start Menu.

These include:

Documents and Settings\Administrator
Documents and Settings\All Users
Documents and Settings\Default User
Documents and Settings\LocalService
Documents and Settings\NetworkService
Documents and Settings\You

Some of the above are Hidden folders.
These are System folders and shouldn't be deleted.

Administrator is for the built in Administrator account.

All Users is used for many things. Your Desktop and Start Menu, for
example, display what is in All Users *and* what is in your Desktop and
Start Menu folders.

Default User is used when creating new accounts.

The Local Service account is a special built-in account that has reduced
privileges similar to an authenticated local user account. The actual name
of the account is NT AUTHORITY\LocalService.

The Network Service account is a special built-in account that has reduced
privileges similar to an authenticated user account. The actual name of the
account is NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService.

The LocalService and NetworkService accounts perform things like
synchronizing the time, etc.

From Small Potato.
<quote>
Just for more information, Local Service and Network Service accounts
are created for security reasons.

In Windows 2000/NT, system services are launched with "Local System"
credential, which has system-wide privilege as Administrator. So if the
service was attacked, attackers gain the privilege of Local System can
perform system-wide attack.

So Windows XP introduced Local Service and Network Service accounts for
system services. Both run with unprivileged "Limited Users" credential
instead of having full system rights, but Local Service access Windows
network using null sessions, i.e., it uses anonymous credential, while
Network Service access Windows network with the computer account, just
like Local System.

For more information, you may refer to this article:

The Services and Service Accounts Security Planning Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/topics/serversecurity/serviceaccount/default.mspx
<quote>

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
 
Wayne said:
Due to an unfortunate selection of partition size for 'C' when originally
configured - 9.75GB (apps, data and other are on D, E, etc.)

I continue to move, try to delete unnecessary folders.
Click to expand...

A better strategy would be to simply resize the "C" partition. Otherwise you will constantly be trying to make room.

There are several good partitioning programs that can perform non-destructive partition resizing.

BootIt.
Full featured 30 day trial
http://www.bootitng.com

Acronis Disk Director
http://acronis.com

PartitionMagic: Overview - Symantec Corp.:
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/overview.jsp?pcid=sp&pvid=pm80
 
Yes! ( to resize). Problem: Drive has C, D & E (w/ a lot of space beyond
E for where Lynx was (maybe still is), about 8Gb worth. Problem is moving
the D & E stuff into the Lynx area (by resizing, moving, etc) making D a lot
larger (?), permiting (?) free space between C & D. Gulp!

Partition Magic 8 does not "see" or can gain a handle on that Lynx space.
It just sees it as, to me right now, useless space.

Installed BootIt NG - don't know yet if this SW will allow the movement.
Thought BootIt NG would be accessible from XP (like PM-8). It can not (at
least the way I currently understand it).

If anyone knows a sure way to "recapture" the 8Gb once used for Lynx (plus
1+ GB beyond for Lynx use, PLS advise!

Regards,
Wayne




Wayne said:
Due to an unfortunate selection of partition size for 'C' when originally
configured - 9.75GB (apps, data and other are on D, E, etc.)

I continue to move, try to delete unnecessary folders.
Click to expand...

A better strategy would be to simply resize the "C" partition. Otherwise you
will constantly be trying to make room.

There are several good partitioning programs that can perform
non-destructive partition resizing.

BootIt.
Full featured 30 day trial
http://www.bootitng.com

Acronis Disk Director
http://acronis.com

PartitionMagic: Overview - Symantec Corp.:
http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/overview.jsp?pcid=sp&pvid=pm80
 
Wayne said:
Yes! ( to resize). Problem: Drive has C, D & E (w/ a lot of space beyond
E for where Lynx was (maybe still is), about 8Gb worth. Problem is moving
the D & E stuff into the Lynx area (by resizing, moving, etc) making D a lot
larger (?), permiting (?) free space between C & D. Gulp!

Partition Magic 8 does not "see" or can gain a handle on that Lynx space.
It just sees it as, to me right now, useless space.

Installed BootIt NG - don't know yet if this SW will allow the movement.
Thought BootIt NG would be accessible from XP (like PM-8). It can not (at
least the way I currently understand it).

If anyone knows a sure way to "recapture" the 8Gb once used for Lynx (plus
1+ GB beyond for Lynx use, PLS advise!

Regards,
Wayne
Click to expand...


Wayne

BootIT doesn't even need to be installed. Place the BootIT installation file on a floppy, place the floppy in the drive and restart the computer. When the installation screen comes up, cancel it and this should bring up the Maintenance Mode where you can do all of the partition work.

BootIT has their own newsgroup where you can get expert help. The free server is terabyteunlimited.com, no logon or password required. In Outlook Express, click on the following link and subscribe to the newsgroup.

news://terabyteunlimited.com/public.apps.bootitng
 
Wesley Vogel said:
Yes and yes.

Default Local Disk Folders

Folder Name: Documents and Settings
Contents: Account information for each user who is granted access on the
computer. Each user account is represented by a subfolder assigned the
user name. Folders under each user account folder include My Documents,
Desktop, and Start Menu.

These include:

Documents and Settings\Administrator
Documents and Settings\All Users
Documents and Settings\Default User
Documents and Settings\LocalService
Documents and Settings\NetworkService
Documents and Settings\You

Some of the above are Hidden folders.
These are System folders and shouldn't be deleted.

Administrator is for the built in Administrator account.

All Users is used for many things. Your Desktop and Start Menu, for
example, display what is in All Users *and* what is in your Desktop and
Start Menu folders.

Default User is used when creating new accounts.

The Local Service account is a special built-in account that has reduced
privileges similar to an authenticated local user account. The actual
name
of the account is NT AUTHORITY\LocalService.

The Network Service account is a special built-in account that has reduced
privileges similar to an authenticated user account. The actual name of
the
account is NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService.

The LocalService and NetworkService accounts perform things like
synchronizing the time, etc.

From Small Potato.
<quote>
Just for more information, Local Service and Network Service accounts
are created for security reasons.

In Windows 2000/NT, system services are launched with "Local System"
credential, which has system-wide privilege as Administrator. So if the
service was attacked, attackers gain the privilege of Local System can
perform system-wide attack.

So Windows XP introduced Local Service and Network Service accounts for
system services. Both run with unprivileged "Limited Users" credential
instead of having full system rights, but Local Service access Windows
network using null sessions, i.e., it uses anonymous credential, while
Network Service access Windows network with the computer account, just
like Local System.

For more information, you may refer to this article:

The Services and Service Accounts Security Planning Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/topics/serversecurity/serviceaccount/default.mspx
<quote>

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Hello

I use WindowsXP SP2 for only one month and I'm a bit surprised because I
have all the folders above mentionned except the "Documents and
Settings\Administrator". Is that normal? To be accurate I have :

Documents and Settings\All Users
Documents and Settings\Default User
Documents and Settings\LocalService
Documents and Settings\NetworkService
plus
1 Documents and Settings\Cxxx (my first name)
2 Documents and Settings\Cxxx[xxxx]
3 Documents and Settings\Cxxx[xxxx.000]
4 Documents and Settings\Yxxx (another user)
5 Documents and Settings\Zxxx (another user)

Due to several re-initialisations to the factory settings, only the user
account [xxx.000] is recognized by Windows.
Are the accounts 1, 2, 4 and 5 useful?
Thanks
 
The (another user) folders can probably be removed, look around to see if
anything is needed from them. Have those accounts (another user) been
removed? If not, remove them first, then whatever's left of the folders
that deleting the accounts doesn't remove.

Missing the Administrator's folders does *NOT* sound good. I have no
earthly idea about that.


If you loose Full Control permissions to your profile folder, in the
%SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings folder, Windows 2000 and Windows XP
will create a new one the next time you log on. The new profile is named:

UserName - if the older profile was deleted.
UserName.ComputerName - if the old profile exists.
UserName.ComputerName.000 - if UserName.ComputerName exists.
UserName.ComputerName.001 - if UserName.ComputerName.000 exists.

Above explains how the names are arrived at.

Below are some links on how to recover and/or remove what's not needed.

Duplicate profile folders exist under the "Documents and Settings" folder
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/restprofile.htm

HOW TO: Restore a User Profile in Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314045

How do I recovery a lost local user profile?
http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBJ/tip4600/rh4631.htm

Scroll down to
Match Users to Data
here...
Windows Rejuvenated
http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,119266,pg,3,00.asp

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
C.Lakun said:
Wesley Vogel said:
Yes and yes.

Default Local Disk Folders

Folder Name: Documents and Settings
Contents: Account information for each user who is granted access on the
computer. Each user account is represented by a subfolder assigned the
user name. Folders under each user account folder include My Documents,
Desktop, and Start Menu.

These include:

Documents and Settings\Administrator
Documents and Settings\All Users
Documents and Settings\Default User
Documents and Settings\LocalService
Documents and Settings\NetworkService
Documents and Settings\You

Some of the above are Hidden folders.
These are System folders and shouldn't be deleted.

Administrator is for the built in Administrator account.

All Users is used for many things. Your Desktop and Start Menu, for
example, display what is in All Users *and* what is in your Desktop and
Start Menu folders.

Default User is used when creating new accounts.

The Local Service account is a special built-in account that has reduced
privileges similar to an authenticated local user account. The actual
name
of the account is NT AUTHORITY\LocalService.

The Network Service account is a special built-in account that has
reduced privileges similar to an authenticated user account. The actual
name of the
account is NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService.

The LocalService and NetworkService accounts perform things like
synchronizing the time, etc.

From Small Potato.
<quote>
Just for more information, Local Service and Network Service accounts
are created for security reasons.

In Windows 2000/NT, system services are launched with "Local System"
credential, which has system-wide privilege as Administrator. So if the
service was attacked, attackers gain the privilege of Local System can
perform system-wide attack.

So Windows XP introduced Local Service and Network Service accounts for
system services. Both run with unprivileged "Limited Users" credential
instead of having full system rights, but Local Service access Windows
network using null sessions, i.e., it uses anonymous credential, while
Network Service access Windows network with the computer account, just
like Local System.

For more information, you may refer to this article:

The Services and Service Accounts Security Planning Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/topics/serversecurity/serviceaccount/default.mspx
<quote>

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Click to expand...

Hello

I use WindowsXP SP2 for only one month and I'm a bit surprised because I
have all the folders above mentionned except the "Documents and
Settings\Administrator". Is that normal? To be accurate I have :

Documents and Settings\All Users
Documents and Settings\Default User
Documents and Settings\LocalService
Documents and Settings\NetworkService
plus
1 Documents and Settings\Cxxx (my first name)
2 Documents and Settings\Cxxx[xxxx]
3 Documents and Settings\Cxxx[xxxx.000]
4 Documents and Settings\Yxxx (another user)
5 Documents and Settings\Zxxx (another user)

Due to several re-initialisations to the factory settings, only the user
account [xxx.000] is recognized by Windows.
Are the accounts 1, 2, 4 and 5 useful?
Thanks
Click to expand...
 
Thanks a lot, Wes, for your explanations. Thanks for the links, they are
very useful. I will read them soon.

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Salutations / Best regards
C. L.


Wesley Vogel said:
The (another user) folders can probably be removed, look around to see if
anything is needed from them. Have those accounts (another user) been
removed? If not, remove them first, then whatever's left of the folders
that deleting the accounts doesn't remove.

Missing the Administrator's folders does *NOT* sound good. I have no
earthly idea about that.


If you loose Full Control permissions to your profile folder, in the
%SystemDrive%\Documents and Settings folder, Windows 2000 and Windows XP
will create a new one the next time you log on. The new profile is named:

UserName - if the older profile was deleted.
UserName.ComputerName - if the old profile exists.
UserName.ComputerName.000 - if UserName.ComputerName exists.
UserName.ComputerName.001 - if UserName.ComputerName.000 exists.

Above explains how the names are arrived at.

Below are some links on how to recover and/or remove what's not needed.

Duplicate profile folders exist under the "Documents and Settings" folder
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/restprofile.htm

HOW TO: Restore a User Profile in Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314045

How do I recovery a lost local user profile?
http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBJ/tip4600/rh4631.htm

Scroll down to
Match Users to Data
here...
Windows Rejuvenated
http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,119266,pg,3,00.asp

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In
C.Lakun said:
"Wesley Vogel" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
(e-mail address removed)...
Do I need to retain folders: All Users and Administrator? What
about Default User?

Yes and yes.

Default Local Disk Folders

Folder Name: Documents and Settings
Contents: Account information for each user who is granted access on the
computer. Each user account is represented by a subfolder assigned the
user name. Folders under each user account folder include My Documents,
Desktop, and Start Menu.

These include:

Documents and Settings\Administrator
Documents and Settings\All Users
Documents and Settings\Default User
Documents and Settings\LocalService
Documents and Settings\NetworkService
Documents and Settings\You

Some of the above are Hidden folders.
These are System folders and shouldn't be deleted.

Administrator is for the built in Administrator account.

All Users is used for many things. Your Desktop and Start Menu, for
example, display what is in All Users *and* what is in your Desktop and
Start Menu folders.

Default User is used when creating new accounts.

The Local Service account is a special built-in account that has reduced
privileges similar to an authenticated local user account. The actual
name
of the account is NT AUTHORITY\LocalService.

The Network Service account is a special built-in account that has
reduced privileges similar to an authenticated user account. The actual
name of the
account is NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService.

The LocalService and NetworkService accounts perform things like
synchronizing the time, etc.

From Small Potato.
<quote>
Just for more information, Local Service and Network Service accounts
are created for security reasons.

In Windows 2000/NT, system services are launched with "Local System"
credential, which has system-wide privilege as Administrator. So if the
service was attacked, attackers gain the privilege of Local System can
perform system-wide attack.

So Windows XP introduced Local Service and Network Service accounts for
system services. Both run with unprivileged "Limited Users" credential
instead of having full system rights, but Local Service access Windows
network using null sessions, i.e., it uses anonymous credential, while
Network Service access Windows network with the computer account, just
like Local System.

For more information, you may refer to this article:

The Services and Service Accounts Security Planning Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/topics/serversecurity/serviceaccount/default.mspx
<quote>

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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\
Click to expand...

Hello

I use WindowsXP SP2 for only one month and I'm a bit surprised because I
have all the folders above mentionned except the "Documents and
Settings\Administrator". Is that normal? To be accurate I have :

Documents and Settings\All Users
Documents and Settings\Default User
Documents and Settings\LocalService
Documents and Settings\NetworkService
plus
1 Documents and Settings\Cxxx (my first name)
2 Documents and Settings\Cxxx[xxxx]
3 Documents and Settings\Cxxx[xxxx.000]
4 Documents and Settings\Yxxx (another user)
5 Documents and Settings\Zxxx (another user)

Due to several re-initialisations to the factory settings, only the user
account [xxx.000] is recognized by Windows.
Are the accounts 1, 2, 4 and 5 useful?
Thanks
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