Wireless Internet overage and throttling

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Looks like Clearwire/Clear throttles power users during peak system
usage times. During off times (maybe at night), they reinstate your
speed. Apparently your sum usage for throttling purposes values
nighttime use the same as peek time use. If I learn differently, I
will correct.
 
I think their system works this way… Their customers are separated
into two general groups, recreational and daytime users. A
recreational user who uses lots of gigs gets throttled during high use
hours. That makes room for a daytime user who needs fast access. An
after-work entertainment user might need to use DSL or cable. All that
assumes you just cannot afford to pay $10 per gigabyte for wireless
data, and that Clear is not overselling its product.
 
I think their system works this way… Their customers are separated
into two general groups, recreational and daytime users. A
recreational user who uses lots of gigs gets throttled during high use
hours. That makes room for a daytime user who needs fast access. An
after-work entertainment user might need to use DSL or cable. All that
assumes you just cannot afford to pay $10 per gigabyte for wireless
data, and that Clear is not overselling its product.
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I think you're onto something. I've noticed that many ISPs also
distinguish between business users (who generally have static IP
addresses) and non-business users (dynamic IP). The former get
preferential treatment in bandwidth allocation, and typically pay more
too.

RL
 
The situation is man made.  Firstly, ISPs set your packet speed and there is
no way to change it unless you pay more money.

Second, high def tv sucks up a lot of bandwidth.  My subdivision has like 80
homes.  If each house has one or two HD TVs on then that is where most of
the cable bandwidth is going.

This business about finding a 24  hour a day downloader or someone streaming
a video (and therefore slow down the packets) seems more like games and
manipulation rather than a  real issue.
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They are accommodating two different types of users. You can download
a ton of data on their wireless network if you can cope with slow
speed during the daytime. That means they can give daytime working/
business users a lot more bandwidth. Since they don't have monopoly
power, they may compete any way they want. Sounds like a good system
to me, again assuming they don't oversell their product. If somebody
who needs tons of wireless data doesn't like Clear's system, they can
pay Verizon or AT&T hundreds of dollars per month.
 
They're accommodating themselves.


They have plenty of that.


Situations fabricated  by marketing are  never good for the consumer. It is
all about extracting more money.  However, it seems to be effective since
many people are drinking the 'our available bandwidth is being overtaxed'
kool-aid.
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If you think they throttle customers for the fun of it, you are an
idiot.
 
This business about finding a 24 hour a day downloader or someone streaming
a video (and therefore slow down the packets) seems more like games and
manipulation rather than a real issue.
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I think they're more concerned with the guy running a torrent client
without a throttle. Most of the time a running torrent client will
use as much uplink as it's permitted to and the cable companies care
more about uplink bandwidth than downlink bandwidth.

And it looks like mine thinks DDO voice chat is torrent traffic and
zaps it.
 
http://techguylabs.com/radio/ShowNotes/Show766
According to Wired Magazine, starting tomorrow, AT&T will begin restricting
more than 16 million users to between 150–250 GB a month, following Comcast’s
similar decision. They say it’s because of “bandwidth hogs.” But Leo says
they’re full of it. It’s protectionism against those who wish to “cut the
cable” and watch content online. And note, that AT&T has UVerse, which sells
TV monthly, as does Comcast. And they’re terrified of the new world. If
users have a choice in their area, they should seek out services which have
no bandwidth caps. Vote with your dollars.
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You should seek a better tinfoil cap, yours is defective. Besides,
idiot, I'm not talking about DSL or cable Internet.
 
Gurgle, gurgle, gurgle . . . you seem to love that marketing kool-aid.  Not
'for fun', for money, moron.
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Explain how limiting customer bandwidth for no reason is going to help
increase their profits, idiot. And do keep in mind that I'm talking
about wireless Internet, idiot, look at the subject line.
 
http://techguylabs.com/radio/ShowNotes/Show766
According to Wired Magazine, starting tomorrow, AT&T will begin restricting
more than 16 million users to between 150–250 GB a month, following Comcast’s
similar decision. They say it’s because of “bandwidth hogs.” But Leo says
they’re full of it. It’s protectionism against those who wish to “cut the
cable” and watch content online. And note, that AT&T has UVerse, which sells
TV monthly, as does Comcast. And they’re terrified of the new world. If
users have a choice in their area, they should seek out services which have
no bandwidth caps. Vote with your dollars.
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I get it, you were using your secret decoder ring to say that you
think intellectual property holders should get nothing for their work.
You make it with your friends by giving them pirated DVDs. Too bad for
you.
 
I think they're more concerned with the guy running a torrent client
without a throttle.  Most of the time a running torrent client will
use as much uplink as it's permitted to and the cable companies care
more about uplink bandwidth than downlink bandwidth.
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That sounds familiar. I wonder how some people upload so many
gigabytes.
 
Huh?  
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That's my best translation of your not quite grown-up knee-jerk
hysterics. It's probably correct, and it shows why you're hiding in
obscurity, again.
 
Whether cable or wireless, it is the same issue.
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No, idiot, it's not.
. . . and you absolutely, 100%, can not figure out how a shortage of a
resource, whether man-made, marketing made, or otherwise, is advantageousto
a company?  Really?
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Competition prevents that, idiot.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20112534-266/wireless-spectrum-shor...
'In total, U.S. operators have licenses for about 538MHz of wireless
spectrum. Only about 192MHz of that spectrum is currently being used. Andof
the spectrum that is being used, 90 percent of it has been allocated to
existing 2G, 3G, and 3.5G wireless services by larger wireless carriers,
such as AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint Nextel, and T-Mobile USA.'
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Assuming that's true… It could have something to do with building
towers, idiot, I'm talking about 4G wireless.
 
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