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John Pollard
In Windows Explorer, all files show time accessed 12:00AM. Does
windows not set this time when files are accessed?
windows not set this time when files are accessed?
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Sharon F
Check the headers on your message, especially the Date line. Do you have
your system date/time set correctly?
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John Pollard
Sharon said:
Yes, my system clock is correct. And, I have not modified
system date/time since I posted my question, though I did shut
my computer down overnight. I do not think the date/time was
wrong yesterday either though; I look at it a lot and I have
lots of reminders during the day and they all worked correctly.
But I don't really understand the relationship: if my clock was
wrong - but running - then access times might be wrong ... but
not all say 12:00AM. Am I missing something?
And the problem is ongoing. I just now opened a file with Word,
then exited word. The document showed today as the access date,
but again 12:00AM as the access time. My system time is now
06:56AM.
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John Pollard
John Pollard wrote:
Just a little update: I now used WordPad to create a new file,
with the following date/time characteristics.
Date Created: 08/15/2003 08:05am
Date Modified: 08/15/2003 08:05am
Date Accessed: 08/15/2003 12:00am
Very strange.
There is one other thing that *may* be involved, but I can not
remember for certain if it is true, and if it is true, I am not
certain when it happened ... though definitely earlier than
yesterday (08/14/2003). I vaguely remember changing my system
time zone ... I can not remember what (I think) it used to say,
but it now (correctly) says "GMT-08:00 Pacific Time (US &
Canada); Tijuana". And I think that I modified (checked) the
box for "Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes.
Could this be involved?
Just a little update: I now used WordPad to create a new file,
with the following date/time characteristics.
Date Created: 08/15/2003 08:05am
Date Modified: 08/15/2003 08:05am
Date Accessed: 08/15/2003 12:00am
Very strange.
There is one other thing that *may* be involved, but I can not
remember for certain if it is true, and if it is true, I am not
certain when it happened ... though definitely earlier than
yesterday (08/14/2003). I vaguely remember changing my system
time zone ... I can not remember what (I think) it used to say,
but it now (correctly) says "GMT-08:00 Pacific Time (US &
Canada); Tijuana". And I think that I modified (checked) the
box for "Automatically adjust clock for daylight saving changes.
Could this be involved?
J
John Pollard
Sharon F wrote:
I'm guessing there is no more info available as it's been 5
days. Sure is frustrating; I was just planning to do a little
research that would have used the file access date/time stamp.
Is this something that should get reported to Microsoft as a
possible problem? If so and if I should do it, can you point me
to the right place; I looked at the MS site and the options for
those using OEM versions of Windows did not seem to have any
place to report suspected bugs.
I'm guessing there is no more info available as it's been 5
days. Sure is frustrating; I was just planning to do a little
research that would have used the file access date/time stamp.
Is this something that should get reported to Microsoft as a
possible problem? If so and if I should do it, can you point me
to the right place; I looked at the MS site and the options for
those using OEM versions of Windows did not seem to have any
place to report suspected bugs.
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Sharon F
John, I didn't forget you but didn't find anything either. IMO, "Date
Accessed" has never been as reliable of a reference in Windows Explorer as
"Date Modified."
Some folks use alternative file manager tools and seem to like the results.
I don't know if the behavior you've noted is a fault with Explorer or with
the bit that tracks the info. Example if you look at "Date Created," you'll
find a wide variation. Some files will reflect the date the file was
created on your hard drive. Other files will show a date stored internally
(1999 on a brand new 2003 computer).
Sorry I couldn't find anything more for you.
J
John Pollard
Sharon said:
Hi Sharon. I didn't mean to imply I thought you forgot; I know
you said you'd post back if you found something, so I figured no
post meant no info.
Are you talking about third party software? Any examples?
I have seen this too; in other os's as well. I think it is a
philosophical question whether a file copied to your pc from
elsewhere was created the day it was copied or the day it was
created "elsewhere". I can live with those differences. But
date accessed is, in some os's, a very straightforward date,
means just what it says. Indeed, there are jobs/commands on
some systems which do things like purge files that have not been
"accessed" in over a year ... 'course the accessed date best be
correct for this to work.
So am I, but thank you for trying.
I am still unclear whether this is something that Microsoft
would be interested in and, if so, how to notify them.
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Sharon F
Third party tools: Power Desk and Total Commander (formerly Windows
Commander) that come to mind.
See this link:
http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy15.htm
If you scroll down to the definitions for created, accessed, and modified:
you will see that applications as well as the operating system touch this
attribute. This probably explains some of the inconsistencies. (I am not
seeing the same 12AM time stamp that you're seeing though and have no idea
why that is showing up on your system).
There may be some more detailed and technical info about this in the
Technet sections of Microsoft's online documentation. May want to comb
through their archives a bit.
The behavior of the date attributes has been consistent as long as I've
used Windows operating systems (3.x and up). So I would think MS would be
aware of it by now. However, if you'd like to drop them an email about it,
this is the link I would suggest using:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://register.micros
oft.com%2fmswish%2fsuggestion.asp
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John Pollard
Sharon said:
Thanks, I will check them out.
Did so.
Yes, I see now. How depressing. But at least I have a better
idea where things stand. The 12:00AM time was my only real beef
when I started; maybe I didn't set my sights low enough.
Done.
Thank you very much for sticking with this.
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Mario
Since you guys are on the date time problem... Maybe you
can help me. I keep setting my date & time on my system
but It falls behind big time... It's actually showing
August 24, 7:09PM but in fact it's August 28, 9:00AM now.
I have to shut down often cause my computer freezes up if
I don't. I used to leave it running for weeks... Any
Ideas?
can help me. I keep setting my date & time on my system
but It falls behind big time... It's actually showing
August 24, 7:09PM but in fact it's August 28, 9:00AM now.
I have to shut down often cause my computer freezes up if
I don't. I used to leave it running for weeks... Any
Ideas?
P
Patrick
Mario said:
If the machine loses time when the machine is turned off,
then the likely cause is the battery on the motherboard.
rest of original thread SNIPPED
(BAD 'Mario' for jumping in)
same problem with 12:30am accessed date on all files
I found this thread while using google to try and find some answers to this problem. I was wondering if anyone figured this one out and just never got back here with the answer.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Tim
I see that this is a really old message, but I'm getting the exact same thing. All the "data accessed" times on all my files on entire pc are 12:30am in WinXP with all of the updates installed.John Pollard said:
I found this thread while using google to try and find some answers to this problem. I was wondering if anyone figured this one out and just never got back here with the answer.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Tim