WindowsME 137gig hard drive question

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Dan Rather

Hello:

I have just been given a hard drive over 137gigs as a gift. I am using
WindowsMe and I know there is a problem with this (partition) size and
my operating system. I was wondering if there was a 3rd party software
program that could help me format this drive so my operating system
could recognize it? Or should I just return the drive for a smaller
size? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!
 
Dan Rather scribebat:
I was wondering if there was a 3rd party software program that could
help me format this drive so my operating system could recognize it?

You can use any partition manager to partition that drive into sizes
that your OS can handle, I think "Ranish Partition Manager" is one, all
these Linux Live CDs should have such tools, too.

bye,

Onno
 
Dan Rather wrote in said:
I have just been given a hard drive over 137gigs as a gift. I am using
WindowsMe and I know there is a problem with this (partition) size and
my operating system. I was wondering if there was a 3rd party software
program that could help me format this drive so my operating system
could recognize it? Or should I just return the drive for a smaller
size? Any help would be appreciated.

Partitioning utilities discussed many times here recently,try fx:
<http://google.com/groups?&q=+partit...ted+group:alt.comp.freeware&num=100&scoring=d>
Size not problem with "ME" I think, see: "Limitations of FAT32..."
<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;184006>
Bootpartition - location of: <http://www.boot-us.com/tips_i01.htm>.
Possible bios barriers, info/background here:

<http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/hard_drives/hard_drive_size_barriers.htm>
See also: "Planning your partitions" <http://aumha.org/a/parts.php>

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Have you tried the manufacturers support page. Most offer software that will
easily partition this drive for you.
 
Dan said:
Hello:

I have just been given a hard drive over 137gigs as a gift. I am using
WindowsMe and I know there is a problem with this (partition) size and
my operating system. I was wondering if there was a 3rd party software
program that could help me format this drive so my operating system
could recognize it? Or should I just return the drive for a smaller
size? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Download SystemRescueCD and burn to CD. Boot using this CD and run
qtparted. qtparted is a FREE partition magic clone.


SystemRescueCD is based on Linux. Don't be afraid. You don't need to
install Linux to use it. Just boot off the CD.

Since you are running Windows ME, just create or resize the partition. If
you want to format it use VFAT32 (but formatting will destroy all data on
the Drive). I suspect that all you need to do it fix the partition
table....

Rob
 
Download SystemRescueCD and burn to CD. Boot using this CD and run
qtparted. qtparted is a FREE partition magic clone.


SystemRescueCD is based on Linux. Don't be afraid. You don't need to
install Linux to use it. Just boot off the CD.

Since you are running Windows ME, just create or resize the partition. If
you want to format it use VFAT32 (but formatting will destroy all data on
the Drive). I suspect that all you need to do it fix the partition
table....

Rob

It strikes me as more likely that his motherboard is not LBA-48
compliant. There really is no way around it, except to return the
drive for a 120GB or purchase a Promise IDE controller card which will
by-pass the BIOS.
 
monkeyman said:
It strikes me as more likely that his motherboard is not LBA-48
compliant. There really is no way around it, except to return the
drive for a 120GB or purchase a Promise IDE controller card which will
by-pass the BIOS.

It might be better to get a new motherboard. Some are very inexpensive
(especially the older models that they are trying to clear out)

Rob
 
use the install software of the disk manufacturer (look for it on their
site)
warning: if you move the disk to a new pc, youu loose the lot, backup!!!
 
I have a Biostar M7NCD Motherboard. I bought this motherboard a 10
months ago.


First off, you should not try to install and run the drive
with a single partition that large even if the OS and BIOS
were happy with it.. It will result in very large cluster
sizes and a huge waste of hard drive space as well as
slowing the machine. You need multiple partitions. You
should attempt to keep the primary (boot) partition
relatively small and use it for the OS and other software
that must be installed there. Other applications should be
in a second, third or ?? partition. I personnally prefer to
keep partitions no larger than 20GB because of backup and
other operations - there are many opinions about that. It
also helps limit the damage and data loss in some crashes
where recovery is possible. I have a couple of larger
partitions that are needed for rendering video. This is the
only use I have ever had that needed larger partitions.
IIRC, the largest partition that you can use with ME is 32
GB any way you go at it with FAT32.

The problem you will face with your OS is the primary
partition. If you do not want to D/L the manufacturer's
disk utilities to do this, you can use Fdisk to partition
the disk with a suitably sized primary partition and format
it as the Boot or system partition. What is left of the
hard drive can be partitioned and formated with Fdisk as an
extended partition which can contain several logical
partitions, if need be, so that they do not exceed the
maximum size for the OS. You will need to make a boot disk
containing the fdisk and format utilities to accomplish
this. Next, you will need a bootable version of your OS
disk to install your Win ME.

The manufacturers disk utilities can do all of this for you
if you already have ME installed on a hard disk and want to
maintain all of your setups as they are. They are usually
free to D/L from their web site. You will need to
temporarily install both hard disks with the new drive first
being installed as a secondary unit. You can then replicate
the drive without changing anything on your old drive.
After the new drive is setup and the old hard drive copied
to it, you will have to remove it and change the jumpers to
make it a primary drive and install it in the place of the
old drive. Your machine should then boot and run. If the
disk is not recognized by the BIOS which should be visible
during bootup, you will need to use the disk manager utility
from the disk manufacturer unless you have a thrid party
manager.

If you are going to copy Win XP, it is an entirely different
process that can get complicated. If you have ME there now,
you are best to complete your hard drive installation and
duplication with ME and, then, install the XP version as an
upgrade to keep it simple and keep your other software
operating properly.
 
Dan Rather wrote in said:
I have a Biostar M7NCD Motherboard. I bought this motherboard a 10
months ago.
<http://www.biostar.com.tw/products/mainboard/board.php3?name=M7NCD>
<http://www.biostar.com.tw/products/mainboard/socket_a/m7ncd/t_m7ncd.exe>
(latter for test report/pdf in sfx). See hardware compatibility list
in it, says tried w/160GB Maxtor. See release date in test report
-compare with your board/bios build, check site for bios updates if
needed. See FAQ pages. Questions: this is not the place, try for ex.
<alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt>.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Hello:

I have just been given a hard drive over 137gigs as a gift. I am using
WindowsMe and I know there is a problem with this (partition) size and
my operating system. I was wondering if there was a 3rd party software
program that could help me format this drive so my operating system
could recognize it? Or should I just return the drive for a smaller
size? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Interestingly, I'm just gone through a similar nightmare with a friend's
computer. Partitioning it wasn't a problem using either Linux fdisk or
WinME fdisk but if the partition size was greater than somewhere around
58/59Mb format would hang around half way through the format process.
Eventually used MaxBlast (it was a Maxtor drive) which set up two equal
partions, formatted them and transferred the system files (from a prompted
for system floppy) in under 20 seconds. It took Microsoft's fdisk two
minutes just to check the drive integrity never mind trying to format it.

The lesson seems to be to forget Microsoft's programs and use the disk
manufacturer's tools.

Regards
Gordon
 
It strikes me as more likely that his motherboard is not LBA-48
compliant. There really is no way around it, except to return the
drive for a 120GB or purchase a Promise IDE controller card which will
by-pass the BIOS.

If he lets the BIOS auto detect he should not have any problems. My
BIOS will not allow any more than 8GB if parameters are set but quite
happily accepts 40GB by using auto detection.
 
Hello:

Thank you for everyones help. You gave me more information than I ever
expected.

Thanks again!
 
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