windows xp oem software

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38 special

please can someone help? I want to use xp and my cheapest
option is oem software ... what i want to know is this ...
what is the best way to backup my present program files
and personal data plus email settings etc; so that they
will transfer into xp from 98se without any problems, loss
of personal settings or loss of data? can i back up to
cd's with paragon from 98se (i have free trail disc) and
safely use it in xp without loss? does anyone know the
best way to do this?

Cheers 38 special
 
An OEM CD will not do an upgrade, only installs on a newly
formatted drive/partition. A backup program for W98 may not
work on XP. If you spend $100 for an OEM CD you will have
to do a clean install. Spend $100 for an upgrade retail CD
and you can do the upgrade and your data and settings should
be retained.


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| please can someone help? I want to use xp and my cheapest
| option is oem software ... what i want to know is this ...
| what is the best way to backup my present program files
| and personal data plus email settings etc; so that they
| will transfer into xp from 98se without any problems, loss
| of personal settings or loss of data? can i back up to
| cd's with paragon from 98se (i have free trail disc) and
| safely use it in xp without loss? does anyone know the
| best way to do this?
|
| Cheers 38 special
 
I don't want to do upgrade cos it just emphasizes any
problems within 98 ... also 98 is FAT32 and XP is NTSC(?)
and that is the file system I want not FAT32

38Special
 
38 special said:
please can someone help? I want to use xp and my cheapest
option is oem software ... what i want to know is this ...
what is the best way to backup my present program files
and personal data plus email settings etc; so that they
will transfer into xp from 98se without any problems, loss
of personal settings or loss of data? can i back up to
cd's with paragon from 98se (i have free trail disc) and
safely use it in xp without loss? does anyone know the
best way to do this?

Cheers 38 special
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You can use the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard on the Windows XP
CD to save your user data files and program configuration settings
from Windows 98 to another hard drive partition, a network drive, or a
removable backup device. Intalled programs cannot be saved in this
way.

Then you can install your new OEM Windows XP on the empty hard drive
(I understand you want to delete the existing FAT32 partition and
create a new NTFS one for use with XP). When the install is finished
you can reinstall your application programs from the original CDs and
then run the FASTW to import the saved data files and configuration
settings into Windows XP.

See the article on using FASTW by former MVP Gary Woodruff at
http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/fast.htm


Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
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http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much."
 
Hello
Windows XP Upgrade will work good with 98 the worse case would be you have
to load some different audio and/or sound drivers, I suggest running the
upgrade advisor and it will tell you if there is any software or hardware
that might cause a problem. It is always a good idea to backup all important
files before making any major change should something go wrong. Disconnect
everything except the Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse before starting. As for
the FAT32 file system that can be changed to the NTFS file system after the
upgrade with no problem as your files and everything should be left intact.

Upgrade Advisor
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/upgrading/advisor.mspx

Converting from FAT to NTFS file system.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307881

Be sure to visit MS Windows Update site and download the updates this is for
your security and safety.

www.windowsupdate.com




--
Haus
Windows XP Pro. SP2 RC2 v.2149 (works great)
Live your life so that whenever you lose, you are ahead.
(Will Rogers)
 
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38 special said:
I don't want to do upgrade cos it just emphasizes any
problems within 98 ...
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Upgrades to XP replace almost everything and usually work very
well. It's worth at least trying it. Worst case, if it results in
problems, you can always do a clean installation.

also 98 is FAT32 and XP is NTSC(?)
and that is the file system I want not FAT32
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You mean BTFS, not NTSC. But no, that isn't correct. Windows 98
supports FAT32 and FAT16, and XP supports both of these, as well
as NTFS (both also support FAT12, but you won't put your main
drive on that).

If you do an upgrade from 98 to XP, you can always convert to
NTFS afterwards. Read http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/ntfscvt.htm
 
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Ken Blake said:
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Upgrades to XP replace almost everything and usually work very
well. It's worth at least trying it. Worst case, if it results in
problems, you can always do a clean installation.




You mean BTFS, not NTSC.
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UGH! Sorry about the typo. *I* mean NTFS, not BTFS.
 
Greetings --

There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:

1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.

2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse
is to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the
OEM license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
support for problems with the OS.

3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.

4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
Further, such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum
of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer
feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was
designed. (To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the
open market; but, if you're shopping someplace like eBay, swap meets,
or computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until
it's too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by
Microsoft and sold to small systems builders, don't have this
particular problem, though, and are pretty much the same as their
retail counterparts, apart from the licensing, support, and upgrading
restrictions.


Bruce Chambers
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having both at once. - RAH
 
You do the upgrade, XP is very different from previous
Windows, errors should not be a problem. Once you have
installed XP, you can convert to NTFS (New Technology File
System) without any data loss.

But an upgrade can also do a clean install if you desire to
do so.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| I don't want to do upgrade cos it just emphasizes any
| problems within 98 ... also 98 is FAT32 and XP is NTSC(?)
| and that is the file system I want not FAT32
|
| 38Special
|
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >An OEM CD will not do an upgrade, only installs on a
newly
| >formatted drive/partition. A backup program for W98 may
| not
| >work on XP. If you spend $100 for an OEM CD you will
have
| >to do a clean install. Spend $100 for an upgrade retail
| CD
| >and you can do the upgrade and your data and settings
| should
| >be retained.
| >
| >
| >--
| >The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| >But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| >| >| please can someone help? I want to use xp and my
| cheapest
| >| option is oem software ... what i want to know is
| this ...
| >| what is the best way to backup my present program files
| >| and personal data plus email settings etc; so that they
| >| will transfer into xp from 98se without any problems,
| loss
| >| of personal settings or loss of data? can i back up to
| >| cd's with paragon from 98se (i have free trail disc)
and
| >| safely use it in xp without loss? does anyone know the
| >| best way to do this?
| >|
| >| Cheers 38 special
| >
| >
| >.
| >
 
Hello 38 special, et al!

Man, there's lots of good information in the answers to your post. BUT, I
think you should do some more investigating.

I don't want to get into a pissing contest with others who know more than I,
but I thought you could do a "Clean Install" from an OEM XP CD without
formating your hard drive. XP simply replaces the existing operating system
in the C:\Windows directory. Your other programs may have to be reinstalled
and some drivers may need to be updated to be XP compatible, but your
directories and data remained intact.

Please correct me if I am wrong!

All of the other "cautions" about booting from CD, licensing, future use,
hardware compatibility, file systems, etc., etc. certainly apply, and should
be thoroughly researched. This is why it may be simpler, although more
expensive, to buy the "upgrade" CD.
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Yes you can do a Clean Install with an OEM version, that means wiping
everything and repartitioning (if necessary), formatting and installing.

You must be talking about Repair Install, you can also do that with a Retail
OEM version (not Factory Restore Disks)
When doing a repair install you must already have XP on the puter, and doing
a repair install all files will be left intact.
It is always a good idea to backup all important files before doing a major
change should something go wrong.

You can do everything with a Retail OEM version that you can do with a
Retail Upgrade or Full version.
The things you can not do with the OEM is transfer it and get MS Support.

Read Bruce's post it explains it all.
 
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