Windows XP machine with IE6 legal to export?

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Paul

Our shipping department just asked me if it is legal to ship a laptop
overseas to a customer in Columbia. It has the standard Windows XP
installation on it, including IE6 with 128 bit "strong" encryption. Is that
legal now or do I have to try to remove the strong ecryption?

Paul
 
Surely this is publically availble information so I don't have to pay for a
lawyer to find out?

Are you telling me no one is likely to know?

Paul
 
Your posting IP points to Wolverine Proctor & Schwartz so I was assuming
that it is the company you work for.

Not even a lawyer experienced in international trade and copyright law would
be able to answer your question based on the minimal amount of information
you posted, Paul. (What company do you represent? Who or what is the
customer? Why are you shipping them a laptop?...)

I should think that the big questions would pertain to the legalities of
exporting (1) the machine, (2) Windows XP and (3) any other application
which may be installed on it already, not '128-bit (browser) encryption'.
 
I'm not asking about the hardware or any other software, I'm asking about
the encryption ban as it applies to IE, because this is an IE newgroup. You
apparently don't know the answer, Robear. Fine. I'll find it myself and post
it here when I do.

Paul
 
<QP>
....All exporters must observe the specific licensing processes and policies
of those countries.

Microsoft is unable to provide legal advice to its customers. When in doubt,
customers should consult their own legal counsel.
</QP>
Source: http://www.microsoft.com/exporting/faq.htm

I still don't know if their concern is over shipping/exporting the laptop
itself, an English-language version of WinXP, IE6's 128-bit encryption, or
128-bit WEP encryption.
 
I see what you mean, Robear. I was just thinking about the IE 6 encryption.
Windows XP Home and Pro are in the "Mass Market", No License Required
categories, too, I see:
http://www.microsoft.com/exporting/matrix_w.htm
And Columbia is not part of this list:
http://www.microsoft.com/exporting/faq.htm#embargo

But, to be safer than sorrier, your suggestion (and Microsoft's) to seek
legal council when in doubt is probably a good one, especially if a
business, rather than an individual is involved.
 
PA Bear said:


Robear,


Great search strategy! Look where modifying it to be

export + 1024+ bit + encryption + restriction

plus a bit of digging led to:

http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/txt/742.txt

<find_this> 742.15 </find_this>


E.g. I think that is an updated link to what John Gilmore
was pointing at when he stated in:

http://www.privacy.nb.ca/cryptography/archives/cryptography/html/1999-03/0159.html

<quote>
the limit was raised to 1024 in December's regs changes,
when DES was decontrolled. See section 742.15 at:
</quote>

BTW that posting was dated "Wed, 31 Mar 1999"


Trouble is I think that much more ferreting through the other reg's
would be required to prove that limit. It certainly isn't spelled out
there in black and white as far as I can see.

Also, here's the last change date (javascript:document.lastModified)
on the document I found: 05/04/2005 15:27:31
Perhaps they have changed their minds again? <eg>

FWIW

Robert
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