Windows XP and New Computer Questions

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MtnLadyinBlackHills1986

I wanted to ask a couple questions and ask for your opinions here. My
computer is 7 years old. The processor is slow and the memory has been
upgraded to the limit. I'm considering purchasing a new computer. I'm using
Windows XP Home Edition on this computer. I have heard that it's hard or
impossible to upgrade XP to the new Windows 7. Is that correct? Also, I
have some older programs I use frequently that I'm afraid won't work on
Windows 7. So I'm looking into buying a computer (used if I have to) that
has Windows XP.

This is probably a dumb question. Is there a way to move all my present
computer's information to a new (or newer) one? My hard drive is an IDE,
which I've been told is a different type than the newer hard drives, so I
probably couldn't just swap out the hard drive. Is there software that can
move programs and not just data? If I were to sign up for an online backup
service, could I download their backup to a new computer?

I appreciate any replies very much before I proceed. Thank you so much.
 
a long while back I had
xp installed on a computer
with an amd processor.

windows was basically
slow on that machine.

then I switched out
motherboards, which is
a a little cheaper way to go
than to buy a new computer.

the motherboard is a
pentium 4 and xp works
lightning fast.

it still runs perfect today
however I now use a
quad core pc with vista
on it.

the above is just food for
thought and simply my
personal experience.


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MtnLadyinBlackHills1986 said:
I wanted to ask a couple questions and ask for your opinions here. My
computer is 7 years old. The processor is slow and the memory has
been upgraded to the limit. I'm considering purchasing a new
computer. I'm using Windows XP Home Edition on this computer. I
have heard that it's hard or impossible to upgrade XP to the new
Windows 7. Is that correct?
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It is impossible to perform a direct in-place upgrade from Windows XP to
Windows 7.

Although not recommended, it is possible to perform an in-place upgrade
from XP to Vista and then a second in-place upgrade from Vista to 7.

The term Upgrade also causes confusion.

If you have a legit license to run XP, you may purchase the less
expensive Upgrade version of Windows 7 to perform a Clean Install of
Windows 7. The reason: your version of Windows XP (let's assume it is
the transferrable Retail version) is considered qualifying media. But
you still would not be able to perform a *direct* in-place upgrade from
XP to Windows 7.

But if your PC is seven years old, you should not be installing Windows
7 on it. The hardware surely is not robust enough. (And Windows XP will
continue to be supported through 2014 in the form of security updates.)
If you are considering purchasing a new PC, you might as well just make
sure it comes with Windows 7.
Also, I have some older programs I use
frequently that I'm afraid won't work on Windows 7. So I'm looking
into buying a computer (used if I have to) that has Windows XP.
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You must *really* like those programs. :-)
This is probably a dumb question. Is there a way to move all my
present computer's information to a new (or newer) one? My hard
drive is an IDE, which I've been told is a different type than the
newer hard drives, so I probably couldn't just swap out the hard
drive. Is there software that can move programs and not just data?
Click to expand...

Although I haven't used it, this program claims to do just that:

http://www.paragon-software.com/home/brs/cat_migration.html
If I were to sign up for an online backup service, could I download
their backup to a new computer?
Click to expand...

I don't know. Personally, I would rather keep everything in my own home.
I appreciate any replies very much before I proceed. Thank you so
much.
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YW.
 
You cannot 'move' programs you have to install them from their original
installation media
If you purchase a new PC then it will come with a version of win
preinstalled, any thought of 'upgrade' are thus irrelevant, so the only
things to move would be data.
Personally I would go with a Win 7 PC
You might care to visit the makers sites for your programs and see there
whether win 7 is supported.

"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986"
 
You would probably be best starting with a fresh OS install, anyway. If the
old copy has had a lot of software installed and removed, it will not perform
as well as a new copy.

As for Win7 or WinXP, 7 has a few advantages but is very much more costly,
and more complicated to set-up and configure. It's basically up to you if you
want to spend the cash on it. So far I only use it for testing.

Almost all computers will still accept IDE disks for data transfer. If not,
you can buy an IDE-to-USB convertor lead to transfer your data. Main point to
note is that XP software drivers may not be available for some new computers,
so check before buying if you want to take that route.

Tip: If installing XP on a new computer with a SATA disk, you will probably
need to set the SATA access mode to legacy, or IDE mode. Otherwise XP will
not boot.
 
I wanted to ask a couple questions and ask for your opinions here. My
computer is 7 years old. The processor is slow and the memory has been
upgraded to the limit. I'm considering purchasing a new computer. I'm
using Windows XP Home Edition on this computer. I have heard that it's
Click to expand...

What CPU and speed? How much memory? What size hard drive? And how
full is it? If your system is really running noticeably slower, it could
be something other than that it's old and the processor is slow. Have
you done a disk cleanup and defrag, lately? Have you scanned for viruses
and other malware?
hard or impossible to upgrade XP to the new Windows 7. Is that correct?
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No. Actually when you "upgrade" from XP to W7, it's not really an
upgrade in the usual sense. The install of W7 wipes out everything XP,
but preserves your settings, data, apps, etc. However, your old system
probably doesn't have the specs to run W7 effectively, if at all. And
there will probably be driver issues, too. Your best bet if you want W7
is to buy a new computer with it already installed, then you are assured
that everything will work, at least internally. You may have problems
with external peripherals like a printer, scanner or even your old
monitor due to lack of W7 drivers for them.
Also, I have some older programs I use frequently that I'm afraid won't
work on Windows 7. So I'm looking into buying a computer (used if I
have to) that has Windows XP.
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Name the apps. They may work. Ask, too, in alt.windows7.general, if
it's available.

Another option instead of buy another computer to run XP on is to clean
up your old system so that it performs better, and network it to the new
one, and access it from there when you need to use it. Or you could
install a virtual machine like VirtualBox (http://www.virtualbox.org/) on
the W7 system, and run XP concurrently.
This is probably a dumb question. Is there a way to move all my present
computer's information to a new (or newer) one? My hard drive is an
IDE, which I've been told is a different type than the newer hard
drives, so I probably couldn't just swap out the hard drive. Is there
software that can move programs and not just data? If I were to sign up
for an online backup service, could I download their backup to a new
computer?
Click to expand...

Yes. Cloning, backup/archivers, or just plan copying. If your W7 system
has IDE controllers as well as SATA, you can plug in the old drive and
just drag-n-drop stuff over. However, I doubt if a Ready-Out-Of-The-Box
W7 system will have IDE, too. Does your old system have USB? If so, you
can transfer stuff over using an external USB hard drive or flash drive.
I do this all the time.

Most online backup services, at least the consumer ones, don't back up
your whole OS install; they only back up the Documents and Settings
folder that contains settings, configurations, data and your personal
files. They won't back up you applications either. If you want a full
system back up, better to do it "locally" and use the online back up just
for your data.

Yes, you can easily transfer online old system back up files to the new
system. Just point-n-click.


Stef
 
Thank you so much, everyone, for your replies. Your input has answered my
questions and helped me decide how I want to proceed.

After struggling with two viruses (at the same time) late last year, I've
been very diligent about keeping my computer malware-free. I also run defrag
and checkdisk frequently. With the newer, larger programs, I think my
computer doesn't have the capacity I will need in the future. The processor
is a "2400+" (24mz?), with 1.5gb of RAM and an 80gb hard drive.

I've decided I don't really need Windows 7 at this time. I like and am
familiar with Windows XP. After 2014, I may have to re-evaluate. Thanks for
letting me know XP will be supported till then. I have purchased a
refurbished Dell desktop from a Microsoft Authorized Refurbisher on eBay. It
is a 3ghz computer with an Intel Pentium 4 processor, 4gb of RAM and a 500gb
hard drive. It comes with a brand new legal Windows XP disk, so I'll be
doing a new install of Windows.

Until I get the new computer, I'm not sure if I will be able to use my
present hard drive to transfer my programs. Thanks for your suggestions on
that. I'll try to do a transfer to save time, but if I can't, I'll
re-install my other programs, including my old favorites. Yes, "Daave", I
really do like them. ;0) But at least with XP, I know they will work. I
have all my data backed up to an external hard drive.

I do have one last question. Of course, I have Office on this computer. My
hubby will be taking this computer over and has no need for Office on it. I
have the legal Office disk. Do I need to un-install Office on this computer
and re-install it on the new one? Would this prevent it from appearing that
I'm installing Office on mulitple computers?

Thanks again for your help. I've learned a lot here. I'm glad this time I
haven't come here with a problem. :0)

Sue
 
Your 2400+ processor probably refers to either an AMD Athlon 2400+ or
AMD Sempron 2400+.
The Athlon would be 2000MHz, the Sempron would be 1667MHz (a.k.a. 2GHz
and 1.6GHz)

Your refurb 3GHz Pentium 4 will run Windows 7 nicely if you ever go to
it, especially with 4GB of RAM....a good deal on a refurb is always
nice.

Yes, you need to uninstall Office from the old computer, and then
install it on the refurb. Make sure you have the Product Key to install
it before you uninstall....not the serial number shown in the Office
programs when you open them, but the Product Key.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/


"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986"
 
MtnLadyinBlackHills1986 said:
I wanted to ask a couple questions and ask for your opinions here. My
computer is 7 years old. The processor is slow and the memory has been
upgraded to the limit. I'm considering purchasing a new computer. I'm using
Windows XP Home Edition on this computer. I have heard that it's hard or
impossible to upgrade XP to the new Windows 7. Is that correct? Also, I
have some older programs I use frequently that I'm afraid won't work on
Windows 7. So I'm looking into buying a computer (used if I have to) that
has Windows XP.

This is probably a dumb question. Is there a way to move all my present
computer's information to a new (or newer) one? My hard drive is an IDE,
which I've been told is a different type than the newer hard drives, so I
probably couldn't just swap out the hard drive. Is there software that can
move programs and not just data? If I were to sign up for an online backup
service, could I download their backup to a new computer?

I appreciate any replies very much before I proceed. Thank you so much.
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Yousuf Khan
 
Thank you for replying, Glen and "Daave".

I don't know know what an "OEM version" is. I got my Office software when I
took an online college course. It was brand new and completely legal. I
have the original disk and have never used it on another computer. I
certainly hope that won't be a problem. With buying another computer (even a
refurbished one), I can't afford to buy Office.

Thanks again.

Sue
 
well, you can always try
to install your office on
the new pc.

if it installs then great

if not, then you might
try out the open source
freeware version of office
called open office.

in my case, I only switched
out the motherboard and
kept the hard drive as is.

so I didn't loose any programs
when I upgraded.

--

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DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen
 
Gee Daave, I dunno. I've never seen an "OEM version" of Office. I've
seen trial versions of Student Edition installed on OEM computers, but
when the trial is up you have to buy it just like retail....I don't know
if it has a different EULA....I've never had anyone go that route.
 
If you bought Office as a retail disc, then no problem. You can install
it on one desktop and one laptop. If you want to put it on a desktop
and it's already on a desktop, uninstall it from the old desktop. Just
be sure you have the Product Key for installation....usually on a
sticker on the CD case.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/

"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986"
 
My version of Office is:

Microsoft Office Basic Edition 2003

It must be considered OEM because it contains the following language on
the installation CD:

"For distribution with a new PC only."

Also, the following is from its EULA:

1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Manufacturer grants you the following
rights provided that you comply with all terms and conditions of this
EULA:

1.1 Installation and use. Except as otherwise expressly provided
in this EULA, you may install and use one copy of the Software on the
Computer. The Software may not be installed, accessed, displayed, run,
shared or used concurrently on or from different computers, including a
workstation, terminal or other device.

1.2 Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO OR USED CONCURRENTLY ON
DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The Software is licensed with the Computer as a
single integrated product and may only be used with the Computer. If
the Software is not accompanied by a Computer, you may not use the
Software. You may permanently transfer all of your rights under this
EULA only as part of a permanent sale or transfer of the Computer,
provided you retain no copies, if you transfer the Software (including
all component parts, the media, any upgrades, this EULA and the COA),
and the recipient agrees to the terms of this EULA. If the Software is
an upgrade, any transfer must also include all prior versions of the
Software.
Click to expand...

As usual, Microsoft is not as clear as they could be!

Does the adverb "concurrently" modify *only* the verb "used"? If so,
it's not kosher to transfer.

However, if the adverb modifies the phrase "SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO OR
USED," then it transferring is permitted by the EULA (provided that it
is no longer being used on the first PC).

Way to go, Microsoft!

I have a feeling Microsoft intended "concurrently" to only modify the
word "used." But they could have been clearer. It's like the Second
Amendment!!!
 
Yeah, I saw that dangling grammar also.....but it appears you are
correct in your assumption of how it is meant, considering these lines,
which make it pretty clear:

"The Software is licensed with the Computer as a single integrated
product and may only be used with the Computer. If the Software is not
accompanied by a Computer, you may not use the Software."

So that's the agreement with "OEM" versions of Office.....glad I don't
have any of those versions!
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/


Daave said:
My version of Office is:

Microsoft Office Basic Edition 2003

It must be considered OEM because it contains the following language
on the installation CD:

"For distribution with a new PC only."

Also, the following is from its EULA:

1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Manufacturer grants you the following
rights provided that you comply with all terms and conditions of this
EULA:

1.1 Installation and use. Except as otherwise expressly
provided in this EULA, you may install and use one copy of the
Software on the Computer. The Software may not be installed,
accessed, displayed, run, shared or used concurrently on or from
different computers, including a workstation, terminal or other
device.

1.2 Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO OR USED CONCURRENTLY ON
DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The Software is licensed with the Computer as a
single integrated product and may only be used with the Computer. If
the Software is not accompanied by a Computer, you may not use the
Software. You may permanently transfer all of your rights under this
EULA only as part of a permanent sale or transfer of the Computer,
provided you retain no copies, if you transfer the Software (including
all component parts, the media, any upgrades, this EULA and the COA),
and the recipient agrees to the terms of this EULA. If the Software
is an upgrade, any transfer must also include all prior versions of
the Software.
Click to expand...

As usual, Microsoft is not as clear as they could be!

Does the adverb "concurrently" modify *only* the verb "used"? If so,
it's not kosher to transfer.

However, if the adverb modifies the phrase "SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO OR
USED," then it transferring is permitted by the EULA (provided that it
is no longer being used on the first PC).

Way to go, Microsoft!

I have a feeling Microsoft intended "concurrently" to only modify the
word "used." But they could have been clearer. It's like the Second
Amendment!!!



Gee Daave, I dunno. I've never seen an "OEM version" of Office.
I've
seen trial versions of Student Edition installed on OEM computers,
but
when the trial is up you have to buy it just like retail....I don't
know if it has a different EULA....I've never had anyone go that
route.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
The Dell PC that was donated to our nonprofit had originally come with
OEM versions of XP Home and Office Basic Edition 2003. I never looked at
the original bill of sale, but I'll bet the Office suite didn't cost
anywhere near as much as its Retail counterpart. So, although Retail has
its clear advantages, they come with a price. That being said, for
people who go through PCs faster than they go through Office suites, the
Retail version will pay for itself.

To OP: Have you figured out which version you have? Also, know that if
you buy a used PC, it's often possible to obtain one with accompanying
OEM software (not only Windows but also Office). Just do your homework.
:-)

Yeah, I saw that dangling grammar also.....but it appears you are
correct in your assumption of how it is meant, considering these
lines, which make it pretty clear:

"The Software is licensed with the Computer as a single integrated
product and may only be used with the Computer. If the Software is
not accompanied by a Computer, you may not use the Software."

So that's the agreement with "OEM" versions of Office.....glad I don't
have any of those versions!

Daave said:
My version of Office is:

Microsoft Office Basic Edition 2003

It must be considered OEM because it contains the following language
on the installation CD:

"For distribution with a new PC only."

Also, the following is from its EULA:

1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Manufacturer grants you the following
rights provided that you comply with all terms and conditions of this
EULA:

1.1 Installation and use. Except as otherwise expressly
provided in this EULA, you may install and use one copy of the
Software on the Computer. The Software may not be installed,
accessed, displayed, run, shared or used concurrently on or from
different computers, including a workstation, terminal or other
device.

1.2 Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO OR USED CONCURRENTLY ON
DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The Software is licensed with the Computer as a
single integrated product and may only be used with the Computer. If
the Software is not accompanied by a Computer, you may not use the
Software. You may permanently transfer all of your rights under this
EULA only as part of a permanent sale or transfer of the Computer,
provided you retain no copies, if you transfer the Software
(including all component parts, the media, any upgrades, this EULA
and the COA), and the recipient agrees to the terms of this EULA. If
the Software is an upgrade, any transfer must also include all
prior versions of the Software.
Click to expand...

As usual, Microsoft is not as clear as they could be!

Does the adverb "concurrently" modify *only* the verb "used"? If so,
it's not kosher to transfer.

However, if the adverb modifies the phrase "SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO OR
USED," then it transferring is permitted by the EULA (provided that
it is no longer being used on the first PC).

Way to go, Microsoft!

I have a feeling Microsoft intended "concurrently" to only modify the
word "used." But they could have been clearer. It's like the Second
Amendment!!!



Gee Daave, I dunno. I've never seen an "OEM version" of Office.
I've
seen trial versions of Student Edition installed on OEM computers,
but
when the trial is up you have to buy it just like retail....I don't
know if it has a different EULA....I've never had anyone go that
route.
Glen, aren't there some OEM versions of Office that cannot be
transferred to other PCs?

glee wrote:
Your 2400+ processor probably refers to either an AMD Athlon 2400+
or AMD Sempron 2400+.
The Athlon would be 2000MHz, the Sempron would be 1667MHz (a.k.a.
2GHz
and 1.6GHz)

Your refurb 3GHz Pentium 4 will run Windows 7 nicely if you ever
go to
it, especially with 4GB of RAM....a good deal on a refurb is
always nice.

Yes, you need to uninstall Office from the old computer, and then
install it on the refurb. Make sure you have the Product Key to
install it before you uninstall....not the serial number shown in
the Office programs when you open them, but the Product Key.

"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986"
message
Thank you so much, everyone, for your replies. Your input has
answered my
questions and helped me decide how I want to proceed.

After struggling with two viruses (at the same time) late last
year, I've
been very diligent about keeping my computer malware-free. I
also run defrag
and checkdisk frequently. With the newer, larger programs, I
think
my computer doesn't have the capacity I will need in the future.
The
processor
is a "2400+" (24mz?), with 1.5gb of RAM and an 80gb hard drive.

I've decided I don't really need Windows 7 at this time. I like
and am
familiar with Windows XP. After 2014, I may have to re-evaluate.
Thanks for
letting me know XP will be supported till then. I have purchased
a
refurbished Dell desktop from a Microsoft Authorized Refurbisher
on
eBay. It
is a 3ghz computer with an Intel Pentium 4 processor, 4gb of RAM
and a 500gb
hard drive. It comes with a brand new legal Windows XP disk, so
I'll
be
doing a new install of Windows.

Until I get the new computer, I'm not sure if I will be able to
use
my present hard drive to transfer my programs. Thanks for your
suggestions on
that. I'll try to do a transfer to save time, but if I can't,
I'll
re-install my other programs, including my old favorites. Yes,
"Daave", I
really do like them. ;0) But at least with XP, I know they will
work. I
have all my data backed up to an external hard drive.

I do have one last question. Of course, I have Office on this
computer. My
hubby will be taking this computer over and has no need for
Office on
it. I
have the legal Office disk. Do I need to un-install Office on
this
computer
and re-install it on the new one? Would this prevent it from
appearing that
I'm installing Office on mulitple computers?

Thanks again for your help. I've learned a lot here. I'm glad
this time I
haven't come here with a problem. :0)

Sue

:

I wanted to ask a couple questions and ask for your opinions
here.
My
computer is 7 years old. The processor is slow and the memory
has
been
upgraded to the limit. I'm considering purchasing a new
computer.
I'm using
Windows XP Home Edition on this computer. I have heard that
it's hard or
impossible to upgrade XP to the new Windows 7. Is that correct?
Also, I
have some older programs I use frequently that I'm afraid won't
work
on
Windows 7. So I'm looking into buying a computer (used if I
have to) that
has Windows XP.

This is probably a dumb question. Is there a way to move all my
present
computer's information to a new (or newer) one? My hard drive
is an
IDE,
which I've been told is a different type than the newer hard
drives,
so I
probably couldn't just swap out the hard drive. Is there
software
that can
move programs and not just data? If I were to sign up for an
online
backup
service, could I download their backup to a new computer?

I appreciate any replies very much before I proceed. Thank you
so
much.
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Jim said:
$49/89
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I know, but it's the easiest way most hassle-free way to have your
entire XP desktop back in full operation under Seven. Let's you transfer
functionality towards Seven in a slow, unhurried way. Once the majority
of what you want to do in Seven has been restored, you can eventually
just blow away the virtual XP. This virtualized XP will also run on
versions of Seven that don't come with XP Mode, and apparently it does a
better job of emulating XP than XP Mode does, in some cases.

Yousuf Khan
 
Thank you for your responses, Glen and Daave. My Office software is "Office
XP Professional - Academic Edition". It came as part of an online college
course. The institution paid for the software and I'm sure, included it in
the price of my course. I would assume the software would be considered as
"retail", since it didn't come with my computer and I got it later. I guess
I'll find out when my computer arrives.

My refurbished computer seller does state that this software is included:
"Office Suite CD's included (Open Office) (compatible with Microsoft
Office)". Is this the "OEM software" you're referring to, Daave, or
something different?

Again, thanks for your help! I appreciate it.

Sue

Daave said:
The Dell PC that was donated to our nonprofit had originally come with
OEM versions of XP Home and Office Basic Edition 2003. I never looked at
the original bill of sale, but I'll bet the Office suite didn't cost
anywhere near as much as its Retail counterpart. So, although Retail has
its clear advantages, they come with a price. That being said, for
people who go through PCs faster than they go through Office suites, the
Retail version will pay for itself.

To OP: Have you figured out which version you have? Also, know that if
you buy a used PC, it's often possible to obtain one with accompanying
OEM software (not only Windows but also Office). Just do your homework.
:-)

Yeah, I saw that dangling grammar also.....but it appears you are
correct in your assumption of how it is meant, considering these
lines, which make it pretty clear:

"The Software is licensed with the Computer as a single integrated
product and may only be used with the Computer. If the Software is
not accompanied by a Computer, you may not use the Software."

So that's the agreement with "OEM" versions of Office.....glad I don't
have any of those versions!

Daave said:
My version of Office is:

Microsoft Office Basic Edition 2003

It must be considered OEM because it contains the following language
on the installation CD:

"For distribution with a new PC only."

Also, the following is from its EULA:

1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Manufacturer grants you the following
rights provided that you comply with all terms and conditions of this
EULA:

1.1 Installation and use. Except as otherwise expressly
provided in this EULA, you may install and use one copy of the
Software on the Computer. The Software may not be installed,
accessed, displayed, run, shared or used concurrently on or from
different computers, including a workstation, terminal or other
device.

1.2 Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO OR USED CONCURRENTLY ON
DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The Software is licensed with the Computer as a
single integrated product and may only be used with the Computer. If
the Software is not accompanied by a Computer, you may not use the
Software. You may permanently transfer all of your rights under this
EULA only as part of a permanent sale or transfer of the Computer,
provided you retain no copies, if you transfer the Software
(including all component parts, the media, any upgrades, this EULA
and the COA), and the recipient agrees to the terms of this EULA. If
the Software is an upgrade, any transfer must also include all
prior versions of the Software.
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As usual, Microsoft is not as clear as they could be!

Does the adverb "concurrently" modify *only* the verb "used"? If so,
it's not kosher to transfer.

However, if the adverb modifies the phrase "SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO OR
USED," then it transferring is permitted by the EULA (provided that
it is no longer being used on the first PC).

Way to go, Microsoft!

I have a feeling Microsoft intended "concurrently" to only modify the
word "used." But they could have been clearer. It's like the Second
Amendment!!!




glee wrote:
Gee Daave, I dunno. I've never seen an "OEM version" of Office.
I've
seen trial versions of Student Edition installed on OEM computers,
but
when the trial is up you have to buy it just like retail....I don't
know if it has a different EULA....I've never had anyone go that
route.
Glen, aren't there some OEM versions of Office that cannot be
transferred to other PCs?

glee wrote:
Your 2400+ processor probably refers to either an AMD Athlon 2400+
or AMD Sempron 2400+.
The Athlon would be 2000MHz, the Sempron would be 1667MHz (a.k.a.
2GHz
and 1.6GHz)

Your refurb 3GHz Pentium 4 will run Windows 7 nicely if you ever
go to
it, especially with 4GB of RAM....a good deal on a refurb is
always nice.

Yes, you need to uninstall Office from the old computer, and then
install it on the refurb. Make sure you have the Product Key to
install it before you uninstall....not the serial number shown in
the Office programs when you open them, but the Product Key.

"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986"
message
Thank you so much, everyone, for your replies. Your input has
answered my
questions and helped me decide how I want to proceed.

After struggling with two viruses (at the same time) late last
year, I've
been very diligent about keeping my computer malware-free. I
also run defrag
and checkdisk frequently. With the newer, larger programs, I
think
my computer doesn't have the capacity I will need in the future.
The
processor
is a "2400+" (24mz?), with 1.5gb of RAM and an 80gb hard drive.

I've decided I don't really need Windows 7 at this time. I like
and am
familiar with Windows XP. After 2014, I may have to re-evaluate.
Thanks for
letting me know XP will be supported till then. I have purchased
a
refurbished Dell desktop from a Microsoft Authorized Refurbisher
on
eBay. It
is a 3ghz computer with an Intel Pentium 4 processor, 4gb of RAM
and a 500gb
hard drive. It comes with a brand new legal Windows XP disk, so
I'll
be
doing a new install of Windows.

Until I get the new computer, I'm not sure if I will be able to
use
my present hard drive to transfer my programs. Thanks for your
suggestions on
that. I'll try to do a transfer to save time, but if I can't,
I'll
re-install my other programs, including my old favorites. Yes,
"Daave", I
really do like them. ;0) But at least with XP, I know they will
work. I
have all my data backed up to an external hard drive.

I do have one last question. Of course, I have Office on this
computer. My
hubby will be taking this computer over and has no need for
Office on
it. I
have the legal Office disk. Do I need to un-install Office on
this
computer
and re-install it on the new one? Would this prevent it from
appearing that
I'm installing Office on mulitple computers?

Thanks again for your help. I've learned a lot here. I'm glad
this time I
haven't come here with a problem. :0)

Sue

:

I wanted to ask a couple questions and ask for your opinions
here.
My
computer is 7 years old. The processor is slow and the memory
has
been
upgraded to the limit. I'm considering purchasing a new
computer.
I'm using
Windows XP Home Edition on this computer. I have heard that
it's hard or
impossible to upgrade XP to the new Windows 7. Is that correct?
Also, I
have some older programs I use frequently that I'm afraid won't
work
on
Windows 7. So I'm looking into buying a computer (used if I
have to) that
has Windows XP.

This is probably a dumb question. Is there a way to move all my
present
computer's information to a new (or newer) one? My hard drive
is an
IDE,
which I've been told is a different type than the newer hard
drives,
so I
probably couldn't just swap out the hard drive. Is there
software
that can
move programs and not just data? If I were to sign up for an
online
backup
service, could I download their backup to a new computer?

I appreciate any replies very much before I proceed. Thank you
so
much.
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