Windows Vista Release

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Bryan Simkins, Jr.

While trying to hold out until this year's Vista's release, I am approaching
a dire need for a new desktop system. Obviously, High Speed Internet,
decent to upscale graphics capabilities for some joystick gaming, photo and
video editing and printing are necessities, as well as music recording
(nothing too fancy) and editing, hopefully to be experienced on some awesome
surround sound system. My question is, should I wait to have a system built
after the release and smooth introduction of Vista, or just go ahead with
what I think I probably need and upgrade to Vista when the bugs and fixes
have stabilized? Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

GBS
 
You only have about 3 weeks before Vista is available, so if you can hold
off, do so.
That said I think Vista will be buggy, some legacy software will not work
until and if the software manufacturers provide Vista patches.
There is a chance that some old software may never work and patches from the
vendor may never be available.

Also the Dell's, Gateway's, HP's and other PC manufacturer's will be flooded
with support issues for the first few months.

JS
 
While trying to hold out until this year's Vista's release, I am approaching
a dire need for a new desktop system. Obviously, High Speed Internet,
decent to upscale graphics capabilities for some joystick gaming, photo and
video editing and printing are necessities, as well as music recording
(nothing too fancy) and editing, hopefully to be experienced on some awesome
surround sound system. My question is, should I wait to have a system built
after the release and smooth introduction of Vista, or just go ahead with
what I think I probably need and upgrade to Vista when the bugs and fixes
have stabilized? Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

GBS
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Many new computers include the "express upgrade" offer for Vista. More
details here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/expressupgrade.mspx
 
Bryan said:
While trying to hold out until this year's Vista's release, I am
approaching a dire need for a new desktop system. Obviously, High
Speed Internet, decent to upscale graphics capabilities for some
joystick gaming, photo and video editing and printing are
necessities, as well as music recording (nothing too fancy) and
editing, hopefully to be experienced on some awesome surround sound
system. My question is, should I wait to have a system built after
the release and smooth introduction of Vista, or just go ahead with
what I think I probably need and upgrade to Vista when the bugs and
fixes have stabilized? Any help in this matter would be greatly
appreciated.
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Several points:

1. Vista is scheduled to be released to the general public on January 30,
just over three weeks from today. That's not a long time to wait.

2. I'm running the RTM version of Vista Ultimate right now. It runs very
smoothly, without any problems.

3. Regarding "when the bugs and fixes have stabilized": *All* software
(except the trivial) has bugs. Developing complex software is an incredibly
demanding task and there's no such thing as perfection. If you wait for "the
bugs and fixes [to] have stabilized," you will wait forever.

Good software isn't bug-free, but it has few bugs, bugs that affect you only
in rare circumstances, and bugs that don't have terribly serious
consequences.

Whether to install it now or wait is your choice, but personally I see no
reason not to do it immediately, if Vista is what you want.
 
Bryan Simkins said:
While trying to hold out until this year's Vista's release, I am
approaching a dire need for a new desktop system. Obviously, High Speed
Internet, decent to upscale graphics capabilities for some joystick
gaming, photo and video editing and printing are necessities, as well as
music recording (nothing too fancy) and editing, hopefully to be
experienced on some awesome surround sound system. My question is, should
I wait to have a system built after the release and smooth introduction of
Vista, or just go ahead with what I think I probably need and upgrade to
Vista when the bugs and fixes have stabilized? Any help in this matter
would be greatly appreciated.

GBS
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You should wait I believe. A CLEAN instal of Vista is worth something. The
DRIVERS will match the system. Vista in the mail will likely take some time
anyway.
I'm taking the very long way and waiting for Vista sp1or sp2.
-Pete
 
Pete said:
You should wait I believe. A CLEAN instal of Vista is worth
something.
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I don't have a lot of experience doing upgrades from XP to Vista, but I can
report on my experience with my own machine here. The upgrade from XP
Professional to Vista Ultimate went very smoothly and the results have been
problem free since the upgrade was done almost two months ago.
 
Bryan Simkins said:
While trying to hold out until this year's Vista's release, I am approaching
a dire need for a new desktop system. Obviously, High Speed Internet,
decent to upscale graphics capabilities for some joystick gaming, photo and
video editing and printing are necessities, as well as music recording
(nothing too fancy) and editing, hopefully to be experienced on some awesome
surround sound system. My question is, should I wait to have a system built
after the release and smooth introduction of Vista, or just go ahead with
what I think I probably need and upgrade to Vista when the bugs and fixes
have stabilized? Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

GBS
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Hi . My personal recommendation to all my clients and to you will be to
simply wait and not to be from the first ones to try out Vista . People say
that it is amazing and the one who has tries Vista will never even look back
at XP but ... I have seen Vista although I don't have big experience with it .

I am going to wait until SP1 of Vista comes out ( or some big improvement) .
Let the "experts" test it , find the bugs that are still invisible and then
here we are .

Don't forget Microsoft will still support Windows XP and they are currently
working on Service Pack 3 for XP so I am looking forward to see it :-)
 
I don't have a lot of experience doing upgrades from XP to Vista, but
I can report on my experience with my own machine here. The upgrade
from XP Professional to Vista Ultimate went very smoothly and the
results have been problem free since the upgrade was done almost two
months ago.
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So Ken are you running Vista on your everyday machine ?

I was just wondering what the performance difference was for apps that you
had used regularly with XP, and subsequently under Vista.
 
DanS said:
So Ken are you running Vista on your everyday machine ?

Yes.


I was just wondering what the performance difference was for apps
that you had used regularly with XP, and subsequently under Vista.
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Little, if any. But I'm running a fast machine with 2GB of RAM.
 
Bert Kinney said:
Hi,

If it were me, I would wait until Vista is released and purchase a system
with Vista already installed. This goes double for portable systems.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org
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Absolutely. Wait for a machine that has Vista installed for compatibility
sake.

I still have the frightening thought that Vista will be no better than ie7

-Pete
 
It's not as bad as IE7 in any way shape or form. Like any new product, no
matter how well or long as the beta testing lasted there will still be bugs,
not all of which is the fault of Microsoft as vendors miss the mark on
occasion also.

You want to minimize the chance of being a guinea pig and the best way to do
that is to hold off, monitor the news group after Vista is released to the
general public, visit the technical web sites for reviews/articles and look
at software/hardware products for releases or updates that are Vista
compatible.

In short do all your homework upfront and remember that it's your money and
you only get a chance to spend it once.

JS
 
I couldn't agree more.
-Pete

JS said:
It's not as bad as IE7 in any way shape or form. Like any new product, no
matter how well or long as the beta testing lasted there will still be
bugs, not all of which is the fault of Microsoft as vendors miss the mark
on occasion also.

You want to minimize the chance of being a guinea pig and the best way to
do that is to hold off, monitor the news group after Vista is released to
the general public, visit the technical web sites for reviews/articles and
look at software/hardware products for releases or updates that are Vista
compatible.

In short do all your homework upfront and remember that it's your money
and you only get a chance to spend it once.

JS
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Some hardware will never be supported purely because it is not in the long
term interests of hardware manufacturers.. some take the opportunity to
render older products obsolete, so waiting for Vista drivers to appear for
an aging joystick may prove to be anything between long and infinite..

Before upgrading to a new OS, it is always a good idea to find out if
drivers and software exist for the new OS.. one then has to weigh the
advantages of the new OS against the disadvantages of losing some previous
functionality..

Vista runs very well.. I have been using it 24/7 since being released to
TechNet Plus and MSDN.. the concept of waiting for an OS to become bug free
before using it is essentially flawed as no software is ever 100% bug free..
if we all took this line, DOS 2.11 would be alive and well..

I was amused by the comment about Vista not being as bad as IE7, considering
that IE7 is part of the Vista package..
 
Yes but IE7 has been installed on XP also and this is where the bad rep.
comes from. As for drivers, your correct, some products will never get
supported for any number of reasons but the end user should never the less
should do his homework if they plan to move to Vista.

JS
 
JS said:
Yes but IE7 has been installed on XP also and this is where the bad
rep. comes from.
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IE7 runs fine under Vista here, and it ran fine under XP here (and still
does on my laptop and on my wife's machine). No problems at all. I run it
with the Maxthon shell, but my wife runs it natively.

As for drivers, your correct, some products will
never get supported for any number of reasons but the end user should
never the less should do his homework if they plan to move to Vista.
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Absolutely! Everyone should do his homework before moving to any new
product.
 
I was amused by the comment about Vista not being as bad as IE7,
considering that IE7 is part of the Vista package..
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WHAT I SAID WAS THAT I HOPED VISTA OVERALL WOULD BE BETTER THAN IE7 (under
XP).
Learn to read and understand. Geez.
-Pete
 
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