Windows Vienna ?

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LOL and you are going to do what with Vienna now when the Vista teams have
not even begun to write the MSKBs for the hundereds of shipped bugs for
Vista RTM? You want to work with Vienna, wait about 4-6 actual years.

CH
 
Chad Harris said:
LOL and you are going to do what with Vienna now when the Vista
teams have not even begun to write the MSKBs for the hundereds of
shipped bugs for Vista RTM? You want to work with Vienna, wait
about 4-6 actual years.

CH

Actually Chad the servicing of a shipping OS (such as Vista) is handed
off to a different group. The primary dev teams continue (after a
break) to work on the next release.
The next major release is closer then the 4 to 6 years you suggest.
 
Mike--

The Beta of Vienna or whatever name is used may be a little closer than 4
years--who knows. But some of the Vista team members have yet to write KBs
on the scores of shipped bugs with Vista. I can count and define major bugs
and I don't see any information as to some of the workarounds I know. I'd
be delighted to write the MSKBs that MSFT is even slower about writing than
the driver manufactures are in getting Vista compatible drivers.

If the servicing of Vista is handed off to a different group or groups they
sure are slow in getting out appropriate MSKBs and substantive information
on Vista.

I predict floods of calls to whatever call centers there are from
MSFT--(i.e. anything but MSFT) Convergys of Ohio outsourcing jobs to India.

Many of them are going to be because people are too lazy to use Windows
Help within Vista and the corresponding website.


CH
 
You don't have to wait for Vienna to have some fun again. Remember that
HomeHorn (Home Server beta should be coming up during this year (mid-year
perhaps?).
 
Are you already involved in Vienna Colin?.


Colin Barnhorst said:
You don't have to wait for Vienna to have some fun again. Remember that
HomeHorn (Home Server beta should be coming up during this year (mid-year
perhaps?).
 
I know a pizza place on the Karntnerstrasse that makes to die for Pizza and
a hotel where you can get a good room for $60 with a baby grand outside the
room, TV and your own shower. I guess that makes me very involved with
Vienna.

BTW what the hell does Vienna have to do with MSFT as a name? Did Motzart
write some of the 16 and 32 bit code?

Microsoft has stated[3] that "Vienna" will be available in both 32-bit and
64-bit for the client version, in order to ease the industry's transition
from 32-bit to 64-bit computing. Vienna Server is expected to support only
64-bit server systems. There will be continued backward compatibility with
32-bit applications, but 16-bit Windows and MS-DOS applications will not be
supported as in Windows Vista 64-bit versions. They are already unsupported
in 64-bit versions of XP and Server 2003.

From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Vienna"
"Several other features originally planned for Windows Vista may be part of
"Vienna", though they may be released independently when they are finished.

"Vienna" will also feature the "sandboxed" approach discussed during the
Alpha/White Box development phase for Longhorn. All non-managed code will
run in a sandboxed environment where access to the "outside world" is
restricted by the operating system. Access to raw sockets will be disabled
from within the sandbox, as will direct access to the file system, hardware
abstraction layer (HAL), and complete memory addressing. All access to
outside applications, files, and protocols will be regulated by the
operating system, and any malicious activity will be halted immediately. If
this approach is successful, it bodes very well for security and safety, as
it is virtually impossible for a malicious application to cause any damage
to the system if it is locked in what is effectively a glass box.

Another interesting feature mentioned by Bill Gates is "a pervasive typing
line that will recognize the sentence that [the user is] typing in." The
implications of this could be as simple as a "complete as you type" function
as found in most modern search engines, (e.g. Google Suggest) or as complex
as being able to give verbal commands to the PC without any concern for
syntax.[2] This former feature has been incorporated to an extent in Windows
Vista."


CH
 
W.A. Mozart was way ahead of his time, so it was probably 128 bit code.

"Chad Harris" <getsomevistainfoout.net> wrote in message I know a pizza place on the Karntnerstrasse that makes to die for Pizza and
a hotel where you can get a good room for $60 with a baby grand outside the
room, TV and your own shower. I guess that makes me very involved with
Vienna.

BTW what the hell does Vienna have to do with MSFT as a name? Did Motzart
write some of the 16 and 32 bit code?

Microsoft has stated[3] that "Vienna" will be available in both 32-bit and
64-bit for the client version, in order to ease the industry's transition
from 32-bit to 64-bit computing. Vienna Server is expected to support only
64-bit server systems. There will be continued backward compatibility with
32-bit applications, but 16-bit Windows and MS-DOS applications will not be
supported as in Windows Vista 64-bit versions. They are already unsupported
in 64-bit versions of XP and Server 2003.

From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_"Vienna"
"Several other features originally planned for Windows Vista may be part of
"Vienna", though they may be released independently when they are finished.

"Vienna" will also feature the "sandboxed" approach discussed during the
Alpha/White Box development phase for Longhorn. All non-managed code will
run in a sandboxed environment where access to the "outside world" is
restricted by the operating system. Access to raw sockets will be disabled
from within the sandbox, as will direct access to the file system, hardware
abstraction layer (HAL), and complete memory addressing. All access to
outside applications, files, and protocols will be regulated by the
operating system, and any malicious activity will be halted immediately. If
this approach is successful, it bodes very well for security and safety, as
it is virtually impossible for a malicious application to cause any damage
to the system if it is locked in what is effectively a glass box.

Another interesting feature mentioned by Bill Gates is "a pervasive typing
line that will recognize the sentence that [the user is] typing in." The
implications of this could be as simple as a "complete as you type" function
as found in most modern search engines, (e.g. Google Suggest) or as complex
as being able to give verbal commands to the PC without any concern for
syntax.[2] This former feature has been incorporated to an extent in Windows
Vista."


CH
 
No. There is not even an alpha build that I know of yet so of course there
can be no beta yet either. There is a preliminary suggestion connection
available to ex-Vista TechBeta testers that probably will open up to all
Connect registrants very soon. Since you registered at least once on
Connect for something you would likely see an email invitation to contribute
or a link on some website if Connect decides the preliminary mechanism is
worthwhile.
 
There were over 500 suggestions for Vienna in the first 24 hours from just a
few hundred Connect participants who had been among the first to opt in.
 
But that's my point Colin, if they can get that many from only few hundred
"ex-Vista TechBeta testers" in 24 hours, imagine the quality/quantity of
ideas to flow from a more open forum ...
 
There might be some duplication if persons consider the same idea however
this should not preclude a more open forum otherwise useful input could be
lost. And besides, who said anything about a "learning curve"?. We were
discussing suggestions for Vienna.
I'm wondering if you are an elitist Colin ie. 'we should keep the
riff-raff out'
 
I don't see Colin as an elitist. He is one of the most helpful
MVPs in these groups. Although, he's listed as a "Virtual Server"
MVP, Colin has a breadth of knowledge, and probably deserves
several MVP designations. His consistency and attitude are
much appreciated by many, I'm sure.

-Michael
 
I don't see Colin as an elitist. He is one of the most helpful
MVPs in these groups. Although, he's listed as a "Virtual Server"
MVP, Colin has a breadth of knowledge, and probably deserves
several MVP designations. His consistency and attitude are
much appreciated by many, I'm sure.

Hear! Hear!
 
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