Windows Security WinMail dialog: Prefill w/ Acct Name

Guest · Mar 8, 2007

This is an OEAccount file question:

How to setup a WinMail oeaccount file so it will be pre-filled in the
Account name in "Username" field of the "Windows Security" dialog box that
WinMail throws up when the password in the oeaccount file is wrong.

I can programatically (C++) setup all the oeaccount file xml EXCEPT (!!) the
password.

I'd like that dialog that appears to at least have the default account's
Account name in that Username textbox. As-is it appears with "User name"
instead.

--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company

Guest · Mar 8, 2007

Why don't you set up the account with an ins file (what an ISP uses).

[Animation]
DoAnimation=1

[Branding]
CompanyName=Serenity Macros
Wizard_Version=3.0.0.560
Custom_Key=BR32618
Window_Title=Internet Explorer
WizardVersion=3.0.0.560
Global=1
Serverless=0

[Entry]
Entry_Name=Optus

[Favorites]

[Internet_Mail]
Install_Mail_16=1
SMTP_Server=
Requires_Logon=Yes
POP_Server=

Requires_Logon=Yes

[Internet_News]
NNTP_Server=msnews.microsoft.com
Logon_Required=0

[LDAP]
FriendlyName=
Server=
HomePage=
SearchBase=
CheckNames=0
AuthType=0

; ****************************************
; * Custom Phone Number Information Here *
; ****************************************
[Phone]
Phone_Number=0198331111
Area_Code=02
Country_Code=61
Country_ID=61
Dial_As_Is=No

[Proxy]
Proxy_Enable=0
HTTP_Proxy_Server=
FTP_Proxy_Server=
Gopher_Proxy_Server=
Secure_Proxy_Server=
Socks_Proxy_Server=
Use_Same_Proxy=0
Proxy_Override=<local>

[Scripting]

[Script_File]

[Server]
Type=PPP
SW_Compress=Yes
PW_Encrypt=No
Network_Logon=no
SW_Encrypt=no
Negotiate_NetBEUI=no
Negotiate_IPX/SPX=no
Negotiate_TCP/IP=Yes

[TCP/IP]
Specify_IP_Address=no
Specify_Server_Address=Yes
IP_Header_Compress=Yes
Gateway_On_Remote=Yes
DNS_Address=139.134.5.51
DNS_Alt_Address=139.134.2.18

Home_Page=file://e:\my documents\s...onnectionSettings] ApplyInsToConnection=Optus

Guest · Mar 8, 2007

How do I get the INS file into the format that Vista's Windows Mail requires?

--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company

. said:
Why don't you set up the account with an ins file (what an ISP uses).

[Animation]
DoAnimation=1

[Branding]
CompanyName=Serenity Macros
Wizard_Version=3.0.0.560
Custom_Key=BR32618
Window_Title=Internet Explorer
WizardVersion=3.0.0.560
Global=1
Serverless=0

[Entry]
Entry_Name=Optus

[Favorites]

[Internet_Mail]
Install_Mail_16=1
SMTP_Server=
Requires_Logon=Yes
POP_Server=

Requires_Logon=Yes

[Internet_News]
NNTP_Server=msnews.microsoft.com
Logon_Required=0

[LDAP]
FriendlyName=
Server=
HomePage=
SearchBase=
CheckNames=0
AuthType=0

; ****************************************
; * Custom Phone Number Information Here *
; ****************************************
[Phone]
Phone_Number=0198331111
Area_Code=02
Country_Code=61
Country_ID=61
Dial_As_Is=No

[Proxy]
Proxy_Enable=0
HTTP_Proxy_Server=
FTP_Proxy_Server=
Gopher_Proxy_Server=
Secure_Proxy_Server=
Socks_Proxy_Server=
Use_Same_Proxy=0
Proxy_Override=<local>

[Scripting]

[Script_File]

[Server]
Type=PPP
SW_Compress=Yes
PW_Encrypt=No
Network_Logon=no
SW_Encrypt=no
Negotiate_NetBEUI=no
Negotiate_IPX/SPX=no
Negotiate_TCP/IP=Yes

[TCP/IP]
Specify_IP_Address=no
Specify_Server_Address=Yes
IP_Header_Compress=Yes
Gateway_On_Remote=Yes
DNS_Address=139.134.5.51
DNS_Alt_Address=139.134.2.18

Home_Page=file://e:\my documents\s...plePC, an EarthLink company [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]

Guest · Mar 8, 2007

Read the latest IEAK,

GSLockwood (IUnknown) said:
How do I get the INS file into the format that Vista's Windows Mail
requires?

--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company

. said:

Why don't you set up the account with an ins file (what an ISP uses).

[Animation]
DoAnimation=1

[Branding]
CompanyName=Serenity Macros
Wizard_Version=3.0.0.560
Custom_Key=BR32618
Window_Title=Internet Explorer
WizardVersion=3.0.0.560
Global=1
Serverless=0

[Entry]
Entry_Name=Optus

[Favorites]

[Internet_Mail]
Install_Mail_16=1
SMTP_Server=
Requires_Logon=Yes
POP_Server=

Requires_Logon=Yes

[Internet_News]
NNTP_Server=msnews.microsoft.com
Logon_Required=0

[LDAP]
FriendlyName=
Server=
HomePage=
SearchBase=
CheckNames=0
AuthType=0

; ****************************************
; * Custom Phone Number Information Here *
; ****************************************
[Phone]
Phone_Number=0198331111
Area_Code=02
Country_Code=61
Country_ID=61
Dial_As_Is=No

[Proxy]
Proxy_Enable=0
HTTP_Proxy_Server=
FTP_Proxy_Server=
Gopher_Proxy_Server=
Secure_Proxy_Server=
Socks_Proxy_Server=
Use_Same_Proxy=0
Proxy_Override=<local>

[Scripting]

[Script_File]

[Server]
Type=PPP
SW_Compress=Yes
PW_Encrypt=No
Network_Logon=no
SW_Encrypt=no
Negotiate_NetBEUI=no
Negotiate_IPX/SPX=no
Negotiate_TCP/IP=Yes

[TCP/IP]
Specify_IP_Address=no
Specify_Server_Address=Yes
IP_Header_Compress=Yes
Gateway_On_Remote=Yes
DNS_Address=139.134.5.51
DNS_Alt_Address=139.134.2.18

Home_Page=file://e:\my documents\s...n EarthLink company [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

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Steve Cochran · Mar 8, 2007

Hi Gary,

See my other response.

Specifically see here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...outlookexpress/oe/overviews/account_entry.asp

<POP3_User_Name type="SZ">0</POP3_User_Name>

steve

Steve Cochran · Mar 8, 2007

Wrong OS.

GSLockwood (IUnknown) said:
Read the latest IEAK,

GSLockwood (IUnknown) said:

How do I get the INS file into the format that Vista's Windows Mail
requires?

--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company

. said:

Why don't you set up the account with an ins file (what an ISP uses).

[Animation]
DoAnimation=1

[Branding]
CompanyName=Serenity Macros
Wizard_Version=3.0.0.560
Custom_Key=BR32618
Window_Title=Internet Explorer
WizardVersion=3.0.0.560
Global=1
Serverless=0

[Entry]
Entry_Name=Optus

[Favorites]

[Internet_Mail]
Install_Mail_16=1
SMTP_Server=
Requires_Logon=Yes
POP_Server=

Requires_Logon=Yes

[Internet_News]
NNTP_Server=msnews.microsoft.com
Logon_Required=0

[LDAP]
FriendlyName=
Server=
HomePage=
SearchBase=
CheckNames=0
AuthType=0

; ****************************************
; * Custom Phone Number Information Here *
; ****************************************
[Phone]
Phone_Number=0198331111
Area_Code=02
Country_Code=61
Country_ID=61
Dial_As_Is=No

[Proxy]
Proxy_Enable=0
HTTP_Proxy_Server=
FTP_Proxy_Server=
Gopher_Proxy_Server=
Secure_Proxy_Server=
Socks_Proxy_Server=
Use_Same_Proxy=0
Proxy_Override=<local>

[Scripting]

[Script_File]

[Server]
Type=PPP
SW_Compress=Yes
PW_Encrypt=No
Network_Logon=no
SW_Encrypt=no
Negotiate_NetBEUI=no
Negotiate_IPX/SPX=no
Negotiate_TCP/IP=Yes

[TCP/IP]
Specify_IP_Address=no
Specify_Server_Address=Yes
IP_Header_Compress=Yes
Gateway_On_Remote=Yes
DNS_Address=139.134.5.51
DNS_Alt_Address=139.134.2.18

Home_Page=file://e:\my documents\s...n EarthLink company [/QUOTE][/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]

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Guest · Mar 8, 2007

Exactly. INS are for OE (non Vista).

yes on the "New Handling..." link. but still get the dialog box with
"Username" in the textbox.....

--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company

Steve Cochran said:
Wrong OS.

Read the latest IEAK,

GSLockwood (IUnknown) said:

How do I get the INS file into the format that Vista's Windows Mail
requires?

--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company

:

Why don't you set up the account with an ins file (what an ISP uses).

[Animation]
DoAnimation=1

[Branding]
CompanyName=Serenity Macros
Wizard_Version=3.0.0.560
Custom_Key=BR32618
Window_Title=Internet Explorer
WizardVersion=3.0.0.560
Global=1
Serverless=0

[Entry]
Entry_Name=Optus

[Favorites]

[Internet_Mail]
Install_Mail_16=1
SMTP_Server=
Requires_Logon=Yes
POP_Server=

Requires_Logon=Yes

[Internet_News]
NNTP_Server=msnews.microsoft.com
Logon_Required=0

[LDAP]
FriendlyName=
Server=
HomePage=
SearchBase=
CheckNames=0
AuthType=0

; ****************************************
; * Custom Phone Number Information Here *
; ****************************************
[Phone]
Phone_Number=0198331111
Area_Code=02
Country_Code=61
Country_ID=61
Dial_As_Is=No

[Proxy]
Proxy_Enable=0
HTTP_Proxy_Server=
FTP_Proxy_Server=
Gopher_Proxy_Server=
Secure_Proxy_Server=
Socks_Proxy_Server=
Use_Same_Proxy=0
Proxy_Override=<local>

[Scripting]

[Script_File]

[Server]
Type=PPP
SW_Compress=Yes
PW_Encrypt=No
Network_Logon=no
SW_Encrypt=no
Negotiate_NetBEUI=no
Negotiate_IPX/SPX=no
Negotiate_TCP/IP=Yes

[TCP/IP]
Specify_IP_Address=no
Specify_Server_Address=Yes
IP_Header_Compress=Yes
Gateway_On_Remote=Yes
DNS_Address=139.134.5.51
DNS_Alt_Address=139.134.2.18

Home_Page=file://e:\my documents\s... EarthLink company [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]

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Guest · Mar 8, 2007

Just to be clear, are you and the "New Handling..." document suggesting I
compose the xml element EXACTLY as:

<POP3_User_Name type="SZ">0</POP3_User_Name>

....with a "0" character (hex 0x30) as a value?

I've tried that AND a NULL (which results in:

<POP3_User_Name type="SZ"></POP3_User_Name>

Neither will popup that dialog prefilled with the username.

I think that dialog comes up when the username/password is not authenticated
by the email service and at that point MS just presents the window simply
without the fields prefilled...

This is TERRIBLE UI! First not to expose an API for us to encrypt the
password, and second --if I'm right in my previous statement-- not to prefill
the username!

any other ideas?? I'm out!

--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company

Steve Cochran · Mar 8, 2007

Hi George,

I'll have to test some.

From one of my .oeaccount files the field is populated as follows:

<POP3_User_Name type="SZ">[email protected]</POP3_User_Name>

And I imagine that's what you need. Take a look at a file already set up
from your accounts and it should help show you what you need.

Again, I will need to test some, as I know what is supposed to work, but not
actually if it does.

cheers,

steve

Guest · Mar 9, 2007

Hi Steve,

Yes I've been composing the pop3 user element with a valid email address and
the dialog with "username" in the text box is what appears.

Yes please confirm for yourself!

Too bad MS did not (is it too late?) considered this when they decided not
to expose the password encrytion API!!!

If we cannot find a way to fill that textbox, it will be very easy for users
to corrupt an otherwise correctly setup account!!! (if they leave of the
domain part of the email address in that text box).

fingers crossed you can find a way!!

thanks, Steve.

--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company

Steve Cochran · Mar 9, 2007

The decision not to provide information on how to encrypt the password was
deliberate on their part. They felt that passwords should be entered the
first time by the users themselves. It was a security decision on their
part.

steve

Guest · Mar 9, 2007

If they (MS) feel that way they should / must at least fill that "username"
text box with that default email account's pop username...

This is an expect UI function!

--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company

Steve Cochran · Mar 9, 2007

Its supposed to work that way. If it doesn't, its a bug.

steve

Guest · Mar 15, 2007

Steve,

Maybe this is a dead issue at this point, but...

I'm realizing that while WinMail will put up the dialog --with the blank
username and blank password-- whenever it is unhappy with the password,
Outlook Express will put it up but with the username FILLED IN!! (blank
password).

I see this when the registry account does not have a POP3 Password2 setting
at all.

Could it be that there is an answer inside this observation??

--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company

Steve Cochran · Mar 15, 2007

Hi George,

I'm at MS right now and when I get back this weekend I'll have time to check
into these issues.

I've been a bit distracted this week.

cheers,

steve

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