Windows & Office For Consumers

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For just that extra explanation for what I've said before, Microsoft is
marketing their products differently this round for home customers - AKA
consumers.

The reason why today and in the past there were so many problems with
Microsoft offerings for consumers is that there were too many redundant
products. Office Outlook 2003 duplicates Outlook Express and Windows
Address Book, Windows Messenger duplicates MSN Messenger. And some more
like:

- Office Outlook 2007 will duplicate Windows Mail, Windows Contacts, and
Windows Calendar
- Office Picture Manager will duplicate Windows Photo Gallery
- Producer for PowerPoint 2007 will duplicate Windows Movie Maker
- Office Application Recovery will duplicate Windows Task Manager (yes,
the thing from Ctrl+Alt+Del)

So... in order to avoid such life complications, users like you should
work around and select the best route to ensure you get what you need,
not what you DON'T need.

Now, Microsoft seems to have designed Office Home and Student 2007 to
include:

- Office Word 2007
- Office Excel 2007
- Office PowerPoint 2007
- Office OneNote 2007

Guess why they dropped Office Outlook 2007 for Office OneNote 2007? It's
because someone who's sane at MS actually realized how insane Windows
and Office are at duplicating each other and came up with a partial
solution. Therefore, without Office Outlook 2007, you can now enjoy less
stress and use tools that are built specifically for consumers (yes
that's us), Windows Mail, Windows Contacts, Windows Calendar, and forget
about the nerdy features in Office Outlook 2007 like Cached Exchange
Mode, Meeting Workspace, Live Attachments, Task Status Reports, Journal,
etc.

So... if you want the leanest combination of Windows and Office, you
should get Windows Vista Home (Basic and Premium) and Office Home and
Student 2007. DO NOT GET Office Basic 2007 because that includes Office
Outlook 2007 and you will be daunted by duplications of e-mail,
contacts, and calendar programs. Too bad that's the case, because
Windows Vista Home Basic and Office Basic 2007 go and sound together
pretty well, if Office Outlook 2007 wasn't in there.

If synchronizing multiple e-mail accounts across multiple e-mail
programs, and importing and exporting and re-entering your buddies list
and birthday dates on two or more contact and calendar programs doesn't
scare you... I recommend Windows Vista Enterprise or Ultimate, and
Office Enterprise or Professional Plus 2007. This ultimate combination
gives you more than enough work to get your life information settled in
place and up-to-date. But for people who just want simple things that
just work, count me out...

I need 1 mailbox in my frontyard, 1 kitchen in my house, and 1 garage
lot. Nothing more...

Feel free to share your opinion, anger, disagreement, counterattack...
 
You can always go the custom install route and choose exactly which parts of
Office you actually need to install. I never install Outlook. ;)
 
I don't run Outlook at all. I'm testing Office 2007 and I haven't even
bothered with Outlook - the day it comes with in-built newsgroup support,
*that's* when I'll start using it!

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I know, but I'm just saying I don't really like Outlook all that much really
:o)

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Ahh now that's the thing, I've got an XDA II Pocket PC/Phone and I'm having
a constant battle to work out whether I should install Outlook for
synchronisation purposes... but then again, I've got a backup utility on my
phone provided by O2 which does a similar thing to ActiveSync and Outlook
anyway ;o)

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Ahh now that's the thing, I've got an XDA II Pocket PC/Phone and I'm having
a constant battle to work out whether I should install Outlook for
synchronisation purposes... but then again, I've got a backup utility on my
phone provided by O2 which does a similar thing to ActiveSync and Outlook
anyway ;o)
Click to expand...

Actually thinking on it I'm not tied to Outlook now as I don't use Outlook
notes and the Rest of my PIM data is actually safe and sound within
4SmartPhone - which we reviewed here, which may be of interest to you
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=7726 as I think it would solve
your problem as well.
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Webmaster: UKs largest Pocket PC Site
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LMAO!

hell no, Microsoft likes confusing people by getting dis Windows Mobile
Device Manager or some crap like that, that means the sync manager is of no
use.
 
Outlook is critical to have for a large organization, the one that I a
working at :-)



But I agree, Microsoft is competing with Microsoft, not because they are
trying to give me more choices, but I think just because the developers love
to rewrite everything their way, I guess you got the idea :-)



I would have been wonderful if Outlook just upgrades the existing mail,
calendar, etc; but I guess this may not happen.



Don't also forget that Outlook / SharePoint, competes with Novell, and IBM
Lotus Notes; there are tons of useless tings there for a home user, but very
important for a large business :-)



By the way, I am using outlook in my tablet PC with one note.
 
yeah

but i why did they need to do Windows Mobile evice Manager when Sync Manager
is already there? why reinvent the wheel?
 
Note that this is for Windows Vista only. For Windows XP you will still need
Outlook since it includes a calendar, which OE don't include.
 
Actually, Office Application Recovery duplates a new feature in vista that
will preserve your document when your application crash.
 
Windows Messenger duplicates MSN Messenger and added new features, but
however starting at 4.6 it do not duplicates all the features by default. To
get the MSN stuff you need to install an add-in, which was discontinued in
5.0 and Windows XP SP2.
 
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