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other party logs out. I have to reboot the machine to get it going
again. I have Win XP home . Can anyone help?
 
Best bet is to uninstall, run a registry cleaner like CCleaner, and then
download a fresh copy and reinstall.
 
Best bet is to uninstall, run a registry cleaner like CCleaner, and then
download a fresh copy and reinstall.
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I strongly disagree. Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil.
Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the
registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many
people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to
convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt
you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
 
I used CCleaner as the program to run. If you READ the article you posted,
they do mention CCleaner as being one of the better registry cleaners. and
Further more, I don't know what facts your using to back up besides what
somebody else wrote, but I've been using CCleaner and I haven't had any
problems. It does a fine job at cleaning out the dead links etc and clearing
other temp files. And if I remember correctly, you were the same person,
Ken, that told someone that they needed to get parts for their computer to
run a 650g drive. Did you take the time to actually read his post and
realise that the person had more than enough in specs to handle it? All he
needed was SP1.
 
I used CCleaner as the program to run. If you READ the article you posted,
they do mention CCleaner as being one of the better registry cleaners. and
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I happen to agree. CCleaner is one of the best ones and less dangerous
than most. And its other non-registry-cleaning functions are good.

*However*, good as it might be in comparison to others, the risks of
using CCleaner's registry cleaning are not zero, but the potential
benefits of using it are zero.

I strongly recommend against it.


Further more, I don't know what facts your using to back up besides what
somebody else wrote, but I've been using CCleaner and I haven't had any
problems.
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Neither I nor anybody else has ever claimed that every use of a
registry cleaner will cause of a problem. If that were so, all the
makers of registry cleaners will go out of business immediately. The
issue is not one of certain problems if you run them, it's an issue of
risk. You run a serious risk every time you use it. If you hadn't had
any problems with it, I'm glad to hear it, but consider yourself
lucky.


It does a fine job at cleaning out the dead links etc and clearing
other temp files.
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And there is no benefit to any of that. You are running a serious risk
for no benefit. It's a bad bargain.

And if I remember correctly, you were the same person,
Ken, that told someone that they needed to get parts for their computer to
run a 650g drive. Did you take the time to actually read his post and
realise that the person had more than enough in specs to handle it? All he
needed was SP1.
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I have no idea what you are referring to.

 
I have no idea what you are referring to.
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Are you talking about this reply, quoted below, I made to a recent
question? If so, I certainly did *not* tell Buddha he needed to buy
any parts. If you will re-read the last sentence of my reply, quoted
below, you will see that I told him that he already had what he needed
and didn't to do *anything*.


"On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:46:04 -0700, Buddha
I'm getting a new computer with an Intel Core I7 920 Socket LGA 1366
Quad-Core CPU. The system comes with a 640 GB SATA hard drive. I want to
install a copy of Windows XP Pro SP1. Is there a hard drive limit with SP1
like there was with the original Windows XP not being able to recognize hard
drive space beyond 137 GB? In other words, will XP Pro SP1 install on this
computer with a 640 GB drive??
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Yes. You need two things to support a drive that large:

1. A motherboard with a BIOS and controller that supports 48-bit LBA
(or alternatively, an add-in controller card that does).

2. At least SP1 of Windows XP.

The computer being new will take care of point 1, and SP1 will take
care of point 2."
 
Of course there are benefits. But ten to one you've never tested out
applications and gotten results. MVP's like you just run around giving
people advice on stuff you probably never come across. You all come here and
advise people based on what update you got from your supervisor. I have read
many articles just like you have posted where using registry cleaners have
helped computers that were running stuggish. Further more I have seen
results for myself from there so called "dangerous" applications.

Ken Blake said:
I used CCleaner as the program to run. If you READ the article you
posted,
they do mention CCleaner as being one of the better registry cleaners.
and
Click to expand...


I happen to agree. CCleaner is one of the best ones and less dangerous
than most. And its other non-registry-cleaning functions are good.

*However*, good as it might be in comparison to others, the risks of
using CCleaner's registry cleaning are not zero, but the potential
benefits of using it are zero.

I strongly recommend against it.


Further more, I don't know what facts your using to back up besides what
somebody else wrote, but I've been using CCleaner and I haven't had any
problems.
Click to expand...


Neither I nor anybody else has ever claimed that every use of a
registry cleaner will cause of a problem. If that were so, all the
makers of registry cleaners will go out of business immediately. The
issue is not one of certain problems if you run them, it's an issue of
risk. You run a serious risk every time you use it. If you hadn't had
any problems with it, I'm glad to hear it, but consider yourself
lucky.


It does a fine job at cleaning out the dead links etc and clearing
other temp files.
Click to expand...


And there is no benefit to any of that. You are running a serious risk
for no benefit. It's a bad bargain.

And if I remember correctly, you were the same person,
Ken, that told someone that they needed to get parts for their computer
to
run a 650g drive. Did you take the time to actually read his post and
realise that the person had more than enough in specs to handle it? All
he
needed was SP1.
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I have no idea what you are referring to.
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And to prove my point of not even paying attention. You made the post today
in a different newsgroup. Telling a guy he needs a motherboard. Just shows
how you MVP run through these posts.
 
And to prove my point of not even paying attention. You made the post today
in a different newsgroup. Telling a guy he needs a motherboard. Just shows
how you MVP run through these posts.
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*I* am the one who runs through these posts? You still haven't read
what I wrote, even when I quoted it for you. I did *not* tell him he
needs a new motherboard. I pointed out that a motherboard that
supports 48-bit LBA is required and I also pointed out that his
computer being new will take care of that point.

Besides rereading my last sentence of the post, also reread my very
first word, "Yes," which was in reply to his question "In other words,
will XP Pro SP1 install on this computer with a 640 GB drive?"


 
Of course there are benefits. But ten to one you've never tested out
applications and gotten results. MVP's like you just run around giving
people advice on stuff you probably never come across. You all come here and
advise people based on what update you got from your supervisor. I have read
many articles just like you have posted where using registry cleaners have
helped computers that were running stuggish. Further more I have seen
results for myself from there so called "dangerous" applications.
Click to expand...


Feel free to believe whatever you want. You are completely wrong, as
far as I'm concerned, but I won't waste any more time arguing with
you.

 
Brent said:
I used CCleaner as the program to run. If you READ the article you posted,
they do mention CCleaner as being one of the better registry cleaners.
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It's one of the "better" because it doesn't do much "cleaning" - which
is hardly something that one might use in recommending it.

To test that statement, run it but don't "clean". Just take note of
the number of items it finds.

Then download any of the other "cleaners" - especially the trial
versions of those that have to be bought - and do the same.

Compare the results: CCleaner finds only a fraction of items that
"need" cleaning compared to what the others find.

That said, try to find ANY reputable website that will prove that such
"cleaning" will result in an increase in the performance of your
system. You won't find a single one that isn't a site that is selling
a "cleaner".

What you probably WILL find are plenty or references where people are
complaining that they used a registry "cleaner" and it rendered their
system broken.
 
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