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We agree with you Ed, Outlook is tried and proven and nothing is working
with our Microsoft Mail
 
I have over 2000 email addresses in about 6 different folders. I also
purchased Outlook 2007 with the new computer. I can't see why the whiz kids
at Microsoft cannot write a sinple program that converts the information from
O/Express to Outlook. They can come up with a great operating system in Vista.
I tried Microsoft help via telephone today and over about 30 minutes all
they could tell me was what I already knew.
I am now in the process of transfgerring all my contacts to one folder and
then importing then sorting it out. I imagine there is going to be a HUGE
groundswell of complaints from Outlook and Mail users when they switcj from
Outlook Express.
I'd like to know who tested the product.
Ed
 
Don't blame the testers. There were a lot of bugs they refused to fix
during the beta.

steve
 
Coming in late to this thread...so forgive me if I'm missing this.

Is the issue that you can't import from OE to Outlook 2007? Or from WM to
Outlook 2007? And do the scenarios you're trying to do with OE and WM work
with Outlook 2003?

Thanks for the additional info!
--tanja
 
Arborfield said:
OK, I've tried just about everything posted on these pages... and still
WM sucks. Anyone suggest an alternative that will WORK.
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Maybe if someone had some idea what your problem is?
 
Arborfield said:
Hi Frank... good to know that someone cares!

Migration from XP to Vista (new DELL machine), and in particular OE to
WM. Managed to get my contact's email addresses, etc., across... but,
whilst I can download my emails from my ISP, I cannot send a thing.
AND it takes ages (minutes)... on my XP machine it takes seconds.

Now, this new machine came with McAfee, and there might just (from
other postings elsewhere) be 'issues' there; or perhaps the Server Port
Nos need to be changed from the (defaul) 25/110 to ?587/995? (again I
read this elsewhere).

Set up on WM seemed easy... virtually the same as under OE/XP, but that
has proved (now on day 4) a chimeria.
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1. Go to the Vista start menu and type cmd
2. The search results will display a program titled cmd
3. Right-click on the link and select "Run as administrator"
4. type "netsh interface tcp set global autotuning=disabled" without
the quotation marks
5. Test your POP account and see if you can now download your mail.
6. If nothing changes, reenable the autotuning feature by typing
"netsh interface tcp set global autotuning=normal"

Also, this is often caused by an anti-spam program or an anti-virus set to
scan email.
Turn off email scanning in your anti-virus. It provides no added
protection. After doing so it may be necessary to reset the server names in
OE.

The Other E-Mail Threat: File Corruption in Outlook Express
Published: November 18, 2004
By Tom Koch
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx

Email scanning slows down Sending and Receiving, sometimes enough that OE
times out. Since some of the received messages have large (often virus)
attachments, which exasperates the problem.
Some Comcast users have found it necessary to totally uninstall Norton and
switch to the free AVG with mail scanning off. Norton invented email
scanning and here's what they say:

"Disabling Email Scanning does not leave you unprotected against viruses
that
are distributed as email attachments. Norton AntiVirus Auto-Protect scans
incoming files as they are saved to your hard drive, including email and
email attachments. Email Scanning is just another layer on top of this. To
make sure that Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep
Auto-Protect enabled and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have
the most recent virus definitions."
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPOR...6d4e006aaa94/4ba5fc8ef939c44c88256c7500723cf0

"...your computer is protected if Auto-Protect is enabled. Auto-Protect
scans any incoming files, including email attachments, when the files are
saved to your hard drive."
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/nav.nsf/docid/2001100907323806

"NAV provides multiple layers of protection. Email scanning is just one of
those layers. Even if you are not running Email Scanning, your computer is
protected against viruses that are distributed as email attachments by NAV
Auto-Protect. Auto-Protect will scan any incoming files, including email
attachments, as they are saved to your hard drive. To make sure that
Auto-Protect is providing the maximum protection, keep Auto-Protect enabled
and run LiveUpdate regularly to ensure that you have the most recent virus
definitions."
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPOR...85256edd00478dbd?OpenDocument&src=bar_sch_nam

See also
http://help.expedient.com/mailnews/norton_antivirus.shtml

So Symantec used to say this often and clearly. The newer stuff doesn't
have the statement included as it was considered an embarrassment. If you
know anyone who programs for Norton try to get them to talk about it.
 
One of my clients just purchased a Toshiba laptop. It came with McAfee
pre-installed. Now, this business person has a 6 meg DSL connection. I mean
it flies!

After connecting up his laptop, the web speed was equal to dialup. The very
first thing I told him was to uninstall McAfee. He didn't want to hear it.

So, after about 4 hours on the phone with Toshiba he calls his DSL provider.
The fella was there for about 15 minutes and fixed his problem.

Yep! He uninstalled McAfee. His download speed was again phenomenal. He is
now using a combination of antivirus and anti spyware programs. He was too
embarrassed to call me so he screwed up on his choices there also.

Oh well! When he does call me about his current problems (they do exist), I
will more than make it up.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Richard Urban said:
One of my clients just purchased a Toshiba laptop. It came with McAfee
pre-installed. Now, this business person has a 6 meg DSL connection. I
mean it flies!

After connecting up his laptop, the web speed was equal to dialup. The
very first thing I told him was to uninstall McAfee. He didn't want to
hear it.

So, after about 4 hours on the phone with Toshiba he calls his DSL
provider. The fella was there for about 15 minutes and fixed his problem.

Yep! He uninstalled McAfee. His download speed was again phenomenal. He is
now using a combination of antivirus and anti spyware programs. He was too
embarrassed to call me so he screwed up on his choices there also.

Oh well! When he does call me about his current problems (they do exist),
I will more than make it up.
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I tell my customers that if they install Norton or McAfee they are resigning
as my customer.
 
Arborfield said:
Wooooooooo ! Thanks Frank. I tried what Frank suggested with no
affect... but when I uninstalled McAfee, my machine FLEW. Back to what
I expected. BUT I can stil NOT SEND any emails via WM.

Any guesses, or even better 'knowledge' about that one?
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What happens when you try to send mail?
What anti-virus are you using? Make sure it is not scanning email.

1. Go to the Vista start menu and type cmd
2. The search results will display a program titled cmd
3. Right-click on the link and select "Run as administrator"
4. type "netsh interface tcp set global autotuning=disabled" without
the quotation marks
5. Test your POP account and see if you can now download your mail.
6. If nothing changes, re-enable the autotuning feature by typing
"netsh interface tcp set global autotuning=normal"
 
Same here. But I also add AOHell in the list.

They are all as bad as the worst virus/malware you can contact. In most
cases you have to blow away the system to be certain you are rid of
everything - just as you would likely have to do to rid the system of a
rootkit.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
AOL doesn't wipe out peoples' messages the way the antivirus software does
to OE messages and folders.

steve
 
Arborfield said:
Still having the problem. This is the message that WM throws back at
me:

An unknown error has occurred. Subject 'Re: Athletics Report', Account:
'Arborfield', Server: 'smtp.lineone.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0B

I tried the change to the autotuning feature that you suggested both
yesterday (before uninstalling McAfee) and this morning (after McAfee
was kicked into the long grass).

My reception of emails is now exemplary... but still no send! I was
wondering if my ISP (Tiscali/Lineone in the UK) has disabled folk such
as I who have email addresses with them, but purchase their broadband
from another supplier? Sound possible? I use them for historical
reasons... i.e. theywere my first ISP back in the early 90s.

Any suggestions gratefully received.
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It is common for an ISP's mail server to block port 25 for anyone not
connected through their modems. However, most have some way for someone to
use that server on a different port with authentication enabled. You would
have to find out from Tiscali/Lineone how to do this.

The actual error message that quote, 0x800CCC0B BUSY, means that OE
believes the server to be busy, but that may just mean that it couldn't
successfully send the message.
 
Arborfield said:
Hi Frank/Richard...

Still having the problem. This is the message that WM throws back at
me:

An unknown error has occurred. Subject 'Re: Athletics Report', Account:
'Arborfield', Server: 'smtp.lineone.net', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25,
Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0B

I tried the change to the autotuning feature that you suggested both
yesterday (before uninstalling McAfee) and this morning (after McAfee
was kicked into the long grass).

My reception of emails is now exemplary... but still no send! I was
wondering if my ISP (Tiscali/Lineone in the UK) has disabled folk such
as I who have email addresses with them, but purchase their broadband
from another supplier? Sound possible? I use them for historical
reasons... i.e. theywere my first ISP back in the early 90s.
Click to expand...

Another thing I thought of: Have you tried this het?

1. Go to the Vista start menu and type cmd
2. The search results will display a program titled cmd
3. Right-click on the link and select "Run as administrator"
4. type "netsh interface tcp set global autotuning=disabled" without
the quotation marks
5. Test your POP account and see if you can now download your mail.
6. If nothing changes, re-enable the autotuning feature by typing
"netsh interface tcp set global autotuning=normal"
 
My ISP blocks port 25 unless I have a static IP address.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
Arborfield said:
Hi Frank/Richard,

Yes I have tried what you have suggested, to no avail. I think that my
ISP (Tiscali) has blocked port 25 which would explain everything. Could
I simply use a 'SMTP Server' to simply route my emails via someone else?
If so, do you have any suggestions? There are loads it seems out
there, but I have absolutely no experience in this particular field.
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No. You would have to know the actual name (or IP address) of the server,
plus you would probably have to be sending using an account on that server.
 
No need for the workaround. Gmail will let you use any 'From' address
as long as you register it with them.

Gary VanderMolen
 
Fully agree, this damn windows mail will not let you delete any messages, so
you sit with sex, guns, drugs and all the other crap in your inbox, etc...
Microsoft really blew this one, what a piece of work this is!
 
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