Windows Clipboard

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In MS Office, there is a clipboard with a history. I've heard it referred to
as Windows clipboard. Is this history, with previews, accessible
independently of Office, so I can paste my clip history in other applications?
 
In MS Office, there is a clipboard with a history. I've heard it
referred to
as Windows clipboard. Is this history, with previews, accessible
independently of Office, so I can paste my clip history in other
applications?
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There was something but I remember it really sucked. Instead I went to
ClipMagic but it isn't free. Google on ClipMagic. I used it, it has
lots of features, the history you want plus the ability to group clips
into their own folders, and lots more; however, I had some critical
problems with it that meant I dumped it. Its database kept getting
corrupted after a few days but maybe they fixed that by now. The
underscore ("_") would stop working, and in UNIX you really need that
character in filenames.

Yep, another user posting to a forum that links to Usenet and spams with
every post. Please tell your forum admin to remove their spam
signature. No one here cares for their spam trying to lure Usenetters
to their forum.
 
Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:18:12 -0500 from Vanguard
There was something but I remember it really sucked. Instead I went to
ClipMagic but it isn't free. Google on ClipMagic. I used it, it has
lots of features, the history you want plus the ability to group clips
into their own folders, and lots more; however, I had some critical
problems with it that meant I dumped it. Its database kept getting
corrupted after a few days but maybe they fixed that by now.
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Funny -- I have exactly the same comments about a similarly-named
product, ClipMate. Yes, I wrote to the program authors, but I didn't
get any effective help.

ClipDiary *is* free. It's not very feature rich, but it does at least
provide a clipboard history.

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/clipdiary.html
 
In MS Office, there is a clipboard with a history. I've heard it referred to
as Windows clipboard. Is this history, with previews, accessible
independently of Office, so I can paste my clip history in other applications?
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The Windows clipboard is the one built in to Windows and holds a single
item. The Office clipboard is the multi-clip clipboard that is only present
if Office is installed. As far as I know, this clipboard will work with
other Office programs but not with non-Office programs.

Vanguard mentions ClipMagic. I've also used ClipMate and liked it:
http://www.thornsoft.com/
 
Stan Brown said:
Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:18:12 -0500 from Vanguard


Funny -- I have exactly the same comments about a similarly-named
product, ClipMate. Yes, I wrote to the program authors, but I didn't
get any effective help.
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You actually had the SAME problems, or just one of them? I have never
heard of anyone complaining in their forums about the underscore key
going dead until the clipboard manager utility causing it got unloaded.
I haven't had the database get corrupted yet but then, as any smart user
should always do, I configure it to save its database (every 15 days),
plus there are options to permit correct backing up of its database that
users never investigate. Clipmate can't do anything about OS crashes,
file system corruption, hard drive failure (loss of retentivity or other
defects), or user error in software configuration, like using Fast User
Switching when databases are open or doing a backup on a database while
multi-user access is still allowed.

Windows has its own problems in not releasing files when a user logs
off. Investigate Microsoft's "User Profile Hive Cleanup" utility (runs
as a service) at
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...6D-8912-4E18-B570-42470E2F3582&displaylang=en.
Also, NEVER use any backup software that does not support Volume Shadow
Copy. Without it, you are trying to take backups of an active system
whose files are still changing which means the files in the backup are
out of sync and will not backup files that are locked (inuse). I know
lots of folks like to recommend Acronis True Image but their Home
version doesn't support VSS (Volume Shadow Service, a service provided
by Microsoft to perform valid backups). I have that now but will have
to replace it.

I'm still back on version 6.3 of Clipmate. It already had far more
features than I use so there was no lure to go to their version 7 with
more stuff in it. I really wanted to make ClipMagic work for me because
it is free and I have other locations and computers where I'd like to
have this level of clipboard features. Maybe it won't have problems for
you. Maybe they fixed the defects by now. It's free so you don't lose
anything by trying. If you get VMWare Server or Virtual PC (both free),
you could even trial it in a virtual machine rather than pollute your
host with trialware (and VMWare lets you save snapshots so you can
immediately revert back to the base or clean state after the OS install
into the VM).
ClipDiary *is* free. It's not very feature rich, but it does at least
provide a clipboard history.

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/clipdiary.html
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Yep, a simple one. Too simple for me. There are lots of these simple
non-hierarchical clipboard managers, especially those that only save
text clips, like this one.

I needed a clipboard manager that could group related clips together.
After inhabiting the newsgroups for awhile, you begin to answer the same
questions over and over. Rather than Google Groups for your prior posts
to give the same answer again, it's rather handy to have them in the
clipboard manager. Both ClipMate and ClipMagic give you screen capture
features (capture an area or capture a window). There are way too many
features to list.

If ClipMagic works for you then go for it. It's free. When I was
looking around, there wasn't anything close to ClipMate (and ClipMagic
didn't exist then) and that's why I went with ClipMate. Because I have
ClipMate, I don't need ClipMagic, but if I didn't have ClipMate then I'd
probably be trying to get ClipMagic to work.
 
Thank you for answering my question.

The reason I was asking, was to justify the acceptance of M8 Free Multi-
Clipboard as an approved software by my company. I've never had any problems
with it. The people discussing other software should try that as an
alternative. It's on Download.com.

My company did say that my reasons (I gave them much more than this) would
justify going through the next hoop - oops, I mean step - in the process.
Apparently freeware needs it's own separate justification. They feel by
paying for things, and having licenses, it gives them a stronger ability to
manage them. I guess that makes sense - as a paying customer, you're
entitled to support, upgrades, and the like.

Thanks again.
 
The reason I was asking, was to justify the acceptance of M8 Free
Multi-
Clipboard as an approved software by my company. I've never had any
problems
with it. The people discussing other software should try that as an
alternative. It's on Download.com.
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I've trialed it. Not much to it. Didn't see the point in wasting the
disk space on it when far superior products are available, but sometimes
all you want is a screwdriver and not a full toolchest. Also, since you
are using the company’s property then it is their choice, not yours, as
to what software is installed on it and what later gets added to it.
Some companies are more strict than others because they aren't
interested in having their Help Desk waste time with non-essential and
non-approved software. Some even run big brother monitoring software
and may even wipe your drive with a company-approved image.

The reason why the company has to review and qualify freeware on their
hosts is that a lot of freeware can NOT be used for business purposes.
They can be used for personal use but not for business use. You chose
to hide the true purpose of your original post. ClipMagic which is free
for personal use will cost $30 per license at work and site/volume
licensing is available. Free for personal use is NOT the same as free
for business use.

Did you read the license for M8? They don't show a copy on their web
site so maybe there is an included file from the install (which means
you are told too late) to tell you what is their licensing for that
"free" product. Did you happen to notice that M8 MultiClipboard is NOT
freeware? From their web site, you can no longer download a free
time-unlimited version and can only buy it. Did you notice that Spartan
is their latest version of M8? It is likely your company won't bother
with old free versions of the software that are not supported. The
probably won't bother with free versions of anything because of the lack
of support (and your company isn't going to waste their time training
their help desk personal on a plethora of miscellaneous fluff software
which you consider important). The only "free" version of Spartan is
their TRIAL version. A single license will cost your company $30. They
don't bother listing volume pricing for site licenses.

http://m8software.com/

So basically you asked here a bogus question that wasted our time when
you already had a solution in mind and were hoping someone else would
suggest it to support your cause at work. Considering how crude and
low-featured is M8 (now Spartan), I doubt your company would waste their
time with it. For the same money, better clipboard managers can be had.
 
Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:59:44 -0500 from Vanguard
You actually had the SAME problems, or just one of them? I have never
heard of anyone complaining in their forums about the underscore key
going dead until the clipboard manager utility causing it got unloaded.
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Huh? Underscore key?

Clipmate's database gets corrupted every few days, and the sorting
into folders doesn't work, so I gave up on it. Yes, I reported the
problems to the Thornsoft, and no, they weren't helpful.
 
undrline via WindowsKB.com said:
Thank you for answering my question.

The reason I was asking, was to justify the acceptance of M8 Free Multi-
Clipboard as an approved software by my company. I've never had any problems
with it. The people discussing other software should try that as an
alternative. It's on Download.com.

My company did say that my reasons (I gave them much more than this) would
justify going through the next hoop - oops, I mean step - in the process.
Apparently freeware needs it's own separate justification. They feel by
paying for things, and having licenses, it gives them a stronger ability to
manage them. I guess that makes sense - as a paying customer, you're
entitled to support, upgrades, and the like.

Thanks again.
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You're most welcome.
 
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