Windows 2000 workstations and member servers have the wrong DNS Su

Guest · Jul 9, 2004

Here's my problem...It seems that when I'm not looking the fqdn of my workstations and member servers are changing from workstation1.xxx.yyy.com to workstastion1.yyy.com. I've been able to correct this by changing the tcpip parameters in the registry..Is there something I'm missing ??

Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] · Jul 9, 2004

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RF said:
Here's my problem...It seems that when I'm not looking
the fqdn of my workstations and member servers are
changing from workstation1.xxx.yyy.com to
workstastion1.yyy.com. I've been able to correct this by
changing the tcpip parameters in the registry..Is there
something I'm missing ??

Can you post an ipconfig /all?

Ace Fekay [MVP] · Jul 10, 2004

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RF said:
Here's my problem...It seems that when I'm not looking the fqdn of my
workstations and member servers are changing from
workstation1.xxx.yyy.com to workstastion1.yyy.com. I've been able
to correct this by changing the tcpip parameters in the registry..Is
there something I'm missing ??

Probably a suffix and/or wrong zone issue, hard to tell from here.

As Kevin mentioned, please post an ipconfig /all and if you can also add for
us, the AD DNS domain name and the zone name as its spelled in DNS?

Thanks

--
Regards,
Ace

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RF · Jul 10, 2004

Yes !

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

Z:\>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : QHM01WS
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : faa.gov
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
FAA.GOV

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920
Integrated Fast Ethernet
Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-D0-DF-
34-F9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.127
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.1
10.128.112.1
10.128.113.1
10.128.114.1
10.128.115.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.7
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.7
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.55
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday,
July 10, 2004 4:57:01 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July
18, 2004 4:57:01 PM

Z:\>

Guest · Jul 10, 2004

The FQDN is:

qhmops.faa.gov

-----Original Message-----
In news1BA2C45-9B8D-4795-9D42- (e-mail address removed),
RF <[email protected]> asked for help and I offered my
suggestions below:

Probably a suffix and/or wrong zone issue, hard to tell from here.

As Kevin mentioned, please post an ipconfig /all and if you can also add for
us, the AD DNS domain name and the zone name as its spelled in DNS?

Thanks

--
Regards,
Ace

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken;
A lifetime commitment for a pig.
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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] · Jul 11, 2004

In

RF said:
Yes !

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

Z:\>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : QHM01WS
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : faa.gov
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
FAA.GOV

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920
Integrated Fast Ethernet
Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-D0-DF-
34-F9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.127
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.1
10.128.112.1
10.128.113.1
10.128.114.1
10.128.115.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.7
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.7
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.55
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday,
July 10, 2004 4:57:01 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July
18, 2004 4:57:01 PM

This machine's FQDN computer name is QHM01WS.faa.gov. However it has a
connection specific suffix of QHMOPS.FAA.GOV so if it can also register its
record in the DNS zone of that name and give it a FQ DNS name of
QHM01WS.QHMOPS.FAA.GOV, too. If you only want this machine to be know as
QHM01WS.QHMOPS.FAA.GOV you need to change the Primary DNS suffix to
QHMOPS.FAA.GOV. That's done on the Computer Name tab of the System Control
panel.

On a side note, this gateway situation you have going on is incorrect, with
a Netmask of 255.255.255.0 the only good gateway is 10.128.117.1 The rest
are out of range and won't be pingable because they are not in the same
subnet. If you want to use all these gateways the subnet mask will need to
be 255.255.0.0.

RF · Jul 11, 2004

Thanks for the reply..

I've changed the primary DNS suffix in System
Properties>Computer Name Changes>More. Ive also joined
and rejoined the domain several times..

I am obviously hitting my head against the wrong wall !!

Here's what I did..

Snapshot of Configuration before changes:
Full Computer Name: QHM01WS.faa.gov.
Domain: qhmops.faa.gov
Primary DNS suffix of this computer: QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
Netbios name: QHM01WS

1. Left the qhmops.faa.gov domain joined the "test"
workgroup.

2. Restart....Logged on to the workstation...Full
computer name reads QHM01WS.FAA.GOV

3.Restart again...Full computer name reads: QHM01WS.
(Makes Sense)

4. REJOIN Domain: ("Change PRIMARY dns suffix when domain
name changes" is checked.)

5. After joining domain, prior to restart full computer
name reads: qhm01ws.qhmops.faa.gov.

6. Restart....Login..Full Computer name still reads
qhm01ws.qhmops.faa.gov. Hurray !

7. Restart again...Full Computer Name: qhm01ws.faa.gov
Oh-No !

I am going bonkers !

RF said:
-----Original Message-----
In

RF said:

Yes !

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

Z:\>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : QHM01WS
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : faa.gov
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
FAA.GOV

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920
Integrated Fast Ethernet
Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-D0- DF-
34-F9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.127
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.1
10.128.112.1
10.128.113.1
10.128.114.1
10.128.115.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.7
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.7
Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.55
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday,
July 10, 2004 4:57:01 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July
18, 2004 4:57:01 PM

Click to expand...

This machine's FQDN computer name is QHM01WS.faa.gov. However it has a
connection specific suffix of QHMOPS.FAA.GOV so if it can also register its
record in the DNS zone of that name and give it a FQ DNS name of
QHM01WS.QHMOPS.FAA.GOV, too. If you only want this machine to be know as
QHM01WS.QHMOPS.FAA.GOV you need to change the Primary DNS suffix to
QHMOPS.FAA.GOV. That's done on the Computer Name tab of the System Control
panel.

On a side note, this gateway situation you have going on is incorrect, with
a Netmask of 255.255.255.0 the only good gateway is 10.128.117.1 The rest
are out of range and won't be pingable because they are not in the same
subnet. If you want to use all these gateways the subnet mask will need to
be 255.255.0.0.

.

Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP] · Jul 11, 2004

In

RF said:
Thanks for the reply..

I've changed the primary DNS suffix in System
Properties>Computer Name Changes>More. Ive also joined
and rejoined the domain several times..

I am obviously hitting my head against the wrong wall !!

Here's what I did..

Snapshot of Configuration before changes:
Full Computer Name: QHM01WS.faa.gov.
Domain: qhmops.faa.gov
Primary DNS suffix of this computer: QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
Netbios name: QHM01WS

1. Left the qhmops.faa.gov domain joined the "test"
workgroup.

2. Restart....Logged on to the workstation...Full
computer name reads QHM01WS.FAA.GOV

3.Restart again...Full computer name reads: QHM01WS.
(Makes Sense)

4. REJOIN Domain: ("Change PRIMARY dns suffix when domain
name changes" is checked.)

5. After joining domain, prior to restart full computer
name reads: qhm01ws.qhmops.faa.gov.

6. Restart....Login..Full Computer name still reads
qhm01ws.qhmops.faa.gov. Hurray !

7. Restart again...Full Computer Name: qhm01ws.faa.gov
Oh-No !

I am going bonkers !

Don't go too bonkers cuz you'll need to go check your GPO here: Computer
Configuration, Administrative Templates, System, DNS Client.

Ace Fekay [MVP] · Jul 11, 2004

In

RF said:
Thanks for the reply..

I've changed the primary DNS suffix in System
Properties>Computer Name Changes>More. Ive also joined
and rejoined the domain several times..

I am obviously hitting my head against the wrong wall !!

Here's what I did..

Snapshot of Configuration before changes:
Full Computer Name: QHM01WS.faa.gov.
Domain: qhmops.faa.gov
Primary DNS suffix of this computer: QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
Netbios name: QHM01WS

1. Left the qhmops.faa.gov domain joined the "test"
workgroup.

2. Restart....Logged on to the workstation...Full
computer name reads QHM01WS.FAA.GOV

3.Restart again...Full computer name reads: QHM01WS.
(Makes Sense)

4. REJOIN Domain: ("Change PRIMARY dns suffix when domain
name changes" is checked.)

5. After joining domain, prior to restart full computer
name reads: qhm01ws.qhmops.faa.gov.

6. Restart....Login..Full Computer name still reads
qhm01ws.qhmops.faa.gov. Hurray !

7. Restart again...Full Computer Name: qhm01ws.faa.gov
Oh-No !

I am going bonkers !

As Kevin said, is it set in your Default Domain GPO?

Curious, why do you want to register this in a different zone than what the
AD domain zone is?

And curious, why all the gateways? The default gate for that mask is
10.128.117.1 and as Kevin mentioned, the only one that will work. Each
machine can only have one "default" gateway. It tells the machine the way
out or the way off the network. Kind of like sitting in a room with 3 doors.
You and I know which door to get to the outside world, but the machine
doesn't and needs to be specified. You could create static routes, but that
would be in the routers to control traffic, unless there's something basic
that I can't see in your design and that I'm missing here.

btw- Step #4, did you try unchecking that box and specify what suffix you
want? The system will register itself into that suffix.

--
Regards,
Ace

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken;
A lifetime commitment for a pig.

RF · Jul 12, 2004

Kevin and ACE,

That was the problem, I did manage to figure it out
myself which was cool..

What wasn't cool is that I caused my own headache !

I'd like to thank the both of you for your patience and
help..

When I did the GPO it was probably "One of those days"
where I was all over the place and forgot what I was
doing and just closed the window!

So the positive was that I learned something in this hair
pulling exercise !

Again, thank you for all you're help...

Here's the new config:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : QHM01WS
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
FAA.GOV

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920
Integrated Fast Ethernet
Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-D0-DF-
34-F9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.127
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.7
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.7
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July
11, 2004 8:56:25 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July
19, 2004 8:56:25 PM

rf · Jul 12, 2004

In case you're wondering..I found the problem when I was
looking through the registry..I was searching
for "suffix"..

Ace Fekay [MVP] · Jul 12, 2004

In

RF said:
Kevin and ACE,

That was the problem, I did manage to figure it out
myself which was cool..

What wasn't cool is that I caused my own headache !

I'd like to thank the both of you for your patience and
help..

When I did the GPO it was probably "One of those days"
where I was all over the place and forgot what I was
doing and just closed the window!

So the positive was that I learned something in this hair
pulling exercise !

Again, thank you for all you're help...

Here's the new config:

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : QHM01WS
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
FAA.GOV

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : QHMOPS.FAA.GOV
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C920
Integrated Fast Ethernet
Controller (3C905C-TX Compatible)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-B0-D0-DF-
34-F9
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.127
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.7
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.128.117.7
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, July
11, 2004 8:56:25 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, July
19, 2004 8:56:25 PM

No prob RF. I see you removed all those extra gates as well!

Cheers!
:-)

--
Regards,
Ace

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Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken;
A lifetime commitment for a pig.

Guest · Jul 12, 2004

Yea those gateways!...It's funny despite having all the
facts, knowing that it really doesn't make sense, you do
something anyway..

It took you telling me to realize that yea..this looks
pretty silly !

Thanks Again !

Ace Fekay [MVP] · Jul 12, 2004

In

Yea those gateways!...It's funny despite having all the
facts, knowing that it really doesn't make sense, you do
something anyway..

It took you telling me to realize that yea..this looks
pretty silly !

Thanks Again !

No problem, glad I could help out.

--
Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies ONLY to the Microsoft public newsgroups
so all can benefit.

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees
and confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

HAM AND EGGS: A day's work for a chicken;
A lifetime commitment for a pig.

Windows 2000 workstations and member servers have the wrong DNS Su

Guest

Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]

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RF

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