Windows 2000 not seeing network but will work with net access via NIC?

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Ok i might as well try and explain this to ppl, Ok so this
issue has been bugging me for 2 days now and it seems to
be all i can think about. Ok im trying to build a small
home network, "easy i hear some of you say" easy enough
yeah if you dont have my machine on it. Ok the problem
that i am having is we have 3 machines, 2 windows 2000 pro
and 1 xp pro and no server. Windows 2000a can see xp how
ever 2000b cannot see anything. 2000b can see the internet
if unplugged from the network and plugged in to just the
router. So that rules out a bad network card, so i
unplugged the xp machine to see if the evil o/s of doom
was affecting the network and to no avail it wasn't
GRRRRRR. 2000b can however see xp's netbios name "or
charlotte if it make it easy to understand". The is no
firewall on the network because it has an in-built one on
the router. But we are only trying to get it to work for
the purpose of LAN gaming and file sharing. It doesn't
work with dhcp or static ip's, 2000b cannot ping anything.
I even took the router and plugged it into the uplink port
on the hub "which is a d/link 16 port" and the other
machines could ping it but the 2000b couldn't.

If any one has any idea please im open for suggestions, if
not im going to completely re-install windows.
 
There's a lot you've said, but a lot you haven't said. Here
a a few questions to get you started.
1) Do you have TCP/IP loaded on all machines? for them all
to see the Internet it must be so.
2) The router must have NAT available and enabled, unless
you have multiple real IPs available. If the router (is it
DSL or cable?) is capable of supporting a local LAN, then
it will probably have NAT and DHCP, which I suggest you
enable and use. If you use fixed IPs, then each machine
must have its own IP, so make sure you either have real IPs
than the world can see, or enable Network Address
Translation on the router and choose a private subnet - say
192.168.0.1, 2, and 3 for your three machines.
3) How do the machines see each other? You probably have
NetBEUI running, in which case they should see each other,
but remember that it takes a while for the machines to
negotiate a master, and announce themselves to each other -
it could be a couple of minutes.
4) Lastly, if you don't use DHCP, then you must make sure
you have DNS settings right on each machine (for Internet
lookups), and you could set up a hosts file on each machine
so they can find each other using TCP/IP. Then you can
trash the NetBEUI if you want to.

Julian.
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Julian siad >
a a few questions to get you started.
1) Do you have TCP/IP loaded on all machines? for them all
to see the Internet it must be so.
Click to expand...

All the machine have TCP/IP enabled yes, but the internet
is not the problem.
2) The router must have NAT available and enabled, unless
you have multiple real IPs available. If the router (is it
DSL or cable?) is capable of supporting a local LAN, then
it will probably have NAT and DHCP, which I suggest you
enable and use. If you use fixed IPs, then each machine
must have its own IP, so make sure you either have real IPs
than the world can see, or enable Network Address
Translation on the router and choose a private subnet - say
192.168.0.1, 2, and 3 for your three machines.
Click to expand...

All of the machine used the subnet of 255.255.255.0 and
had ip's running from 192.168.1.1, 2, 3 and so on.
3) How do the machines see each other? You probably have
NetBEUI running, in which case they should see each other,
but remember that it takes a while for the machines to
negotiate a master, and announce themselves to each other -
it could be a couple of minutes.
Click to expand...

There usually is a conflict here in the event view when
the 2000 machines cannot decide on a vote as to who is the
master.
4) Lastly, if you don't use DHCP, then you must make sure
you have DNS settings right on each machine (for Internet
lookups), and you could set up a hosts file on each machine
so they can find each other using TCP/IP. Then you can
trash the NetBEUI if you want to.
Click to expand...

The DNS is not a problem because i dont have the router
include in the loop, all i want the machine to do is to be
able to see each other. So we say that the ip's are as i
stated above, the problem i am having is that 2000b
machine cannot ping either of the other two machines. And
i know this is definatly not a hardware problem because
the machine works on the internet when i add back in my
dns address's and defualt gateway. The only problem that i
am having is that i cannot see/access the other two
machines (and yes file and print sharing is enabled).

If you can think of anything else that would be much
appreciated.
 
Make sure all computers are in the same workgroup and that all useraccounts
exist on all computers. Got File- and printersharing loaded?

Marina
 
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