win98 to xp pro network not working

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Tonisimo

Hello, I hope someone can save the remaining tufts of hair from my
scalp before I pull them out.

I have two computers, one running 98 SE and one running XP. Both have
network cards, connected through CAT5 cable to a hub.

The hub lights light up, so the signals are getting to it from each
computer.

I'm using the TCP/IP protocol and manually assigning IP addresses for
each machine, one is 192.168.0.1 and the other is 192.168.0.2 with a
subnet gateway of 255.255.255.0

File and printer sharing is properly enabled. The hard drives have
been properly shared.

Superfluous protocols have been removed, i.e. netbeui, Ipx... (however
I have tried using them to no success. Found the Netbeui protocol,
even though it's not supported any more, in the valueadd directory of
the xp cd)

Same workgroup assigned "makpro". Unique computer names, "mak01" (XP)
and "mak02" (WIN98).
Win98 machine can`t see the XP? Any help..

I've gone through the step by step instructions many times (many).
Tried everything I can think of, I have put up a successful network
before, this is just baffling me.
 
Tonisimo said:
Hello, I hope someone can save the remaining tufts of hair from my
scalp before I pull them out.

I have two computers, one running 98 SE and one running XP. Both have
network cards, connected through CAT5 cable to a hub.

The hub lights light up, so the signals are getting to it from each
computer.

I'm using the TCP/IP protocol and manually assigning IP addresses for
each machine, one is 192.168.0.1 and the other is 192.168.0.2 with a
subnet gateway of 255.255.255.0

File and printer sharing is properly enabled. The hard drives have
been properly shared.

Superfluous protocols have been removed, i.e. netbeui, Ipx... (however
I have tried using them to no success. Found the Netbeui protocol,
even though it's not supported any more, in the valueadd directory of
the xp cd)
Click to expand...

Windows uses NetBIOS to share resources. If you only wish to share
from the WinXP machine, enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. (can be found in
the advanced section of TCP/IP properties)
Same workgroup assigned "makpro". Unique computer names, "mak01" (XP)
and "mak02" (WIN98).
Win98 machine can`t see the XP? Any help..
Click to expand...

I'm not sure if Win98 has NetBIOS over TCP/IP, I suspect it doesn't. if
not, you may need to use NetBIOS over IPX/SPX instead. You'll need to
use IPX/SPX on both machines i'm afraid - NetBIOS must have a transport
protocol. You cannot use IPX to communicate with TCP/IP.
I've gone through the step by step instructions many times (many).
Tried everything I can think of, I have put up a successful network
before, this is just baffling me.
Click to expand...

Chances are your Network is working - just because you can't see a
compputer in 'my network places' doesn't mean it's not working.

go to MS-DOS Command Prompt and "ping" the IP address of the other
computer, you should find that it responds. If so, the network is setup
properly.
 
Hi,

I have a problem with a similar setup (except that I'm using Win2k Pro
instead of XP). My network problems began after installing SP4 and using
Windows Update on the Win98 machine. Before that, everything worked as
expected.

Recently said:
Windows uses NetBIOS to share resources. If you only wish to share
from the WinXP machine, enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. (can be found
in the advanced section of TCP/IP properties)
[...]
I'm not sure if Win98 has NetBIOS over TCP/IP, I suspect it doesn't.
Click to expand...
The check box for this option is checked and grayed out on my Win98
systems. Doesn't that imply that it's an embedded option?

[...]
Chances are your Network is working - just because you can't see a
compputer in 'my network places' doesn't mean it's not working.
Click to expand...
I can "see" the Win98 computer from the Win2k computers, transfer files
and so on, but the Win98 computesr don't "see" the network at all. AFAIK,
I'm not running a firewall on the Win2k computers unless SP4 installed one
that isn't obvious.

Any insights are welcome!

Neil
 
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/

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Ross
Neil Gould said:
Hi,

I have a problem with a similar setup (except that I'm using Win2k Pro
instead of XP). My network problems began after installing SP4 and using
Windows Update on the Win98 machine. Before that, everything worked as
expected.

Recently said:
Windows uses NetBIOS to share resources. If you only wish to share
from the WinXP machine, enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. (can be found
in the advanced section of TCP/IP properties)
[...]
I'm not sure if Win98 has NetBIOS over TCP/IP, I suspect it doesn't.
Click to expand...
The check box for this option is checked and grayed out on my Win98
systems. Doesn't that imply that it's an embedded option?

[...]
Chances are your Network is working - just because you can't see a
compputer in 'my network places' doesn't mean it's not working.
Click to expand...
I can "see" the Win98 computer from the Win2k computers, transfer files
and so on, but the Win98 computesr don't "see" the network at all. AFAIK,
I'm not running a firewall on the Win2k computers unless SP4 installed one
that isn't obvious.

Any insights are welcome!

Neil
Click to expand...
 
Hi Ross,

Recently said:
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/index.htm

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/
Click to expand...
Thanks for the attempts... unfortunately, no joy.

As mentioned, I didn't have a problem before upgrading the Win2k machines
to SP4. Something's changed, but I'm unable to find it!

Regards,

Neil

Hi,

I have a problem with a similar setup (except that I'm using Win2k
Pro instead of XP). My network problems began after installing SP4
and using Windows Update on the Win98 machine. Before that,
everything worked as expected.

Recently said:
Windows uses NetBIOS to share resources. If you only wish to share
from the WinXP machine, enable NetBIOS over TCP/IP. (can be found
in the advanced section of TCP/IP properties)
[...]
I'm not sure if Win98 has NetBIOS over TCP/IP, I suspect it doesn't.
Click to expand...
The check box for this option is checked and grayed out on my Win98
systems. Doesn't that imply that it's an embedded option?

[...]
Chances are your Network is working - just because you can't see a
compputer in 'my network places' doesn't mean it's not working.
Click to expand...
I can "see" the Win98 computer from the Win2k computers, transfer
files and so on, but the Win98 computesr don't "see" the network at
all. AFAIK, I'm not running a firewall on the Win2k computers unless
SP4 installed one that isn't obvious.

Any insights are welcome!

Neil
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
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