Win98 S3 AGP drivers for Asus K8V-VM ?

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Richard Brooks

I've had to buy a new pc as the capacitors on the old one had rotten and
as I'm happy with Win98se right now, I'm looking for the right S3 AGP
driver for an Asus K8V-VM board, as the CD for it is for Win2000/XP.

Which one would work better than the 640*480 mode I'm in right now ?


Many thanks,


Richard.
 
I've had to buy a new pc as the capacitors on the old one had rotten and
as I'm happy with Win98se right now, I'm looking for the right S3 AGP
driver for an Asus K8V-VM board, as the CD for it is for Win2000/XP.

Which one would work better than the 640*480 mode I'm in right now ?
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The general procedure would be,

Go to Asus website and find the northbridge chipset it uses,
http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1189&l1=3&l2=14&l3=0

VIA K8M890
aka- Chrome9
http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/chipsets/k8-series/k8m890/

THEN head on over to Via's driver downloads, which might
seem to be at via.com.tw, but in this case they have a
dedicated URL @ http://www.viaarena.com or more specifically
their win98se drivers @
http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=2&Type=1&OSID=6

Any and all of the drives you find there that are newer than
Asus provides would be preferable.

In this case there's no K8M890 so all you can try is the
closest available, for P4M890 or K8M800. P4M890 is an Intel
supportive chipset w/PCI Express while K8M800 supported AMD
but AGP not PCI Express, so neither is quite right but you
might find one or the other works (or instead that the
system won't load the driver at all and stops... I've never
tried this). Certainly Windows won't think it's the right
driver so you'd have to manually select it.

At worst, install a PCI or low-end PCI Express video card,
it's going to be about as suitable as the integrated video
(IE- fine for 2D but not modern 3D gaming). You could
always consider moving to Win2k or XP though, they will be
more forward compatible which could be a good plus if this
will be a primary use system.
 
Richard Brooks said:
I've had to buy a new pc as the capacitors on the old one had rotten and
as I'm happy with Win98se right now, I'm looking for the right S3 AGP
driver for an Asus K8V-VM board, as the CD for it is for Win2000/XP.

Which one would work better than the 640*480 mode I'm in right now ?


Many thanks,


Richard.
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Oh Oh.

You should always check the download site for a motherboard
before you buy it, as Win98 support does not exist on
the latest hardware. For example, with Nvidia, the Nforce3
is the last chipset with Win98 support. Other manufacturers
will have cut off support in a similar way, on their chipsets
or hardware. Even on video cards, you need to check to see
if a certain vintage of hardware is needed. ATI has Win98
support for up to 9800 Pro, but I'm not sure there is
Win98 support for later than that.

The best option I can think of (with no guarantees), would
be something like a PCI version of the FX5200. This is
the last video card driver for Win98 on the Nvidia site.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_81.98.html (dec21,2005)

(Check for supported video cards here - especially PDF page 50
- the second page of chapter 3)

ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/81.98/81.98_ForceWare_Release_Notes.pdf

Example of a PCI FX5200 $46
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130188

Since it is a PCI card, there shouldn't be an AGP GART driver,
so _maybe_ that will work.

There are 49 PCI video cards listed on Newegg, with some of them
being pretty old and crusty (like ATI Radeon 7000). Try to find
one with as high a level of DirectX support as possible.

Paul
 
I do not believe that that board supports Win 98, as most modern
motherboards do not.
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A board need not "support" an OS per se, it merely has to
have drivers available for the functions the user needs.
Most modern board have had drivers, it is only more recently
that some did not as can be seen from the Via drivers page,
there are drivers for '98 and last-gen hardware.
 
Paul said:
Oh Oh.

You should always check the download site for a motherboard
before you buy it, as Win98 support does not exist on
the latest hardware. For example, with Nvidia, the Nforce3
is the last chipset with Win98 support. Other manufacturers
will have cut off support in a similar way, on their chipsets
or hardware. Even on video cards, you need to check to see
if a certain vintage of hardware is needed. ATI has Win98
support for up to 9800 Pro, but I'm not sure there is
Win98 support for later than that.
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Hi Paul,

Thanks for that!

In fact, I bought a Radeon X300SE PCI-Express card to get around that
problem and even though that has Win98 support, would the software load?
Would it Fffff...

The installer couldn't even work out that it had to find compressed
versions of the file, i.e., somefile.DL_ so I had to do the
decompressing by hand to the hard drive and still no joy.

What I ended up doing was go to a local computer shop with a junkbox and
bought a dusty old Cirrus Logic 5446 PCI card for a tenner and it's all
fine now!

All I need the box for is some programming and typing in a few
documents, that's all. No fast fancy 3D graphics

It serves me right but I had a client breathing down my neck and needed
a new box. Next time, it's a dusty second-hand old unit and for a few
notes only, even if it lasts a couple of years before the capacitors
start leaking! :-)

Thanks again,


Richard.
 
Rod said:
Same thing, different words.
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If they had a nice unobtrusive, relatively virus-free OS such as making
XP act like Win 3.1 then I'd be happy! Two years now on 98se with AVG
and no viruses, BTW and it doesn't tell me that I haven't used a certain
shortcut in a while.

I use XP on a DVD and 3D graphics programming machine in the other room
and I don't even want to see the 'shall I send an error report for you'
window as I can't imagine a car will pull up outside with a MS
representative to come around and fix it. Besides, there's no point
sending a report as it's not connected to the outside world - and it's
virus free! ;-)

Sorry guys, I'll have to breath into that paper bag now!


Richard.
 
Same thing, different words.
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Not quite, it's not as if it's manditory to use every last
feature on a motherboard, particularly when most of them are
easily replaced by $10-$20 cards that do the job better,
more often than not.
 
Not quite,
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Fraid so.
it's not as if it's manditory to use every last feature on a motherboard,
particularly when most of them are easily replaced by $10-$20 cards
that do the job better, more often than not.
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Irrelevant to what was being discussed.
 
Fraid so.


Irrelevant to what was being discussed.
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Nope, first and foremost a motherboard is the platform for
the CPU, memory, and add-on cards. If one chooses to use
Win98se for whatever reason, they can do so and have the
motherboard supported, so long as they don't think
"supported" has to mean 100% of all features are supported.

Likewise you may find 'nix or some other operating system is
commonly used but some motherboard integrated features are
not available.
 
kony said:
Yep.

first and foremost a motherboard is the platform
for the CPU, memory, and add-on cards.
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You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist argumentative children ?
If one chooses to use Win98se for whatever reason, they can
do so and have the motherboard supported, so long as they don't
think "supported" has to mean 100% of all features are supported.
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Irrelevant to what was actually being discussed.

And if that feature which doesnt have driver support
happens to be something important like the built in video....
Likewise you may find 'nix or some other operating system is commonly
used but some motherboard integrated features are not available.
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Irrelevant to what was actually being discussed.
 
And if that feature which doesnt have driver support
happens to be something important like the built in video....


Irrelevant to what was actually being discussed.
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Quite relevant, clueless one.

Win9x, like any other non-WinNT5+ OS, is subject to use with
whatever drivers are available.
 
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