Will removal of the CLI services slow video performance or....

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What does CLI.exe do ? I've read that it uses lots of system resources
and while I can see it is using TCP ports they are localhost only. Resources
none the less.

So what happens if I disable the service by removing the CLI.EXE from the in
the registry ? Just what will explode ? I've done this before and did
not notice a downside but I don't play too many games. Would there be any
negative effect on any application or performance by removing this.

Less is more and if I don't need this process I want to axe it. Too many
companies abuse our systems when it comes to loading lots of excess baggage.
eg: ATI Hotkey Poller !

 

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What does CLI.exe do ? I've read that it uses lots of system resources
and while I can see it is using TCP ports they are localhost only.
Resources
none the less.

CLI.exe is the Catalyst Control Center (CCC). By default CCC loads itself
into memory at Windows startup, so the applet will launch faster if you need
to adjust graphics settings.

So what happens if I disable the service by removing the CLI.EXE from the
in
the registry ? Just what will explode ? I've done this before and
did
not notice a downside but I don't play too many games. Would there be any
negative effect on any application or performance by removing this.

It's easier just to disable it as a startup item through MSConfig (look for
entry called "CLIStart"). Doing this will not prevent CCC from launching
when you need it; it just takes longer. The exception here is if you run a
Crossfire setup. CCC needs to load at Windows startup for Crossfire to
activate.

Less is more and if I don't need this process I want to axe it.

You could have just downloaded the driver-only package, avoiding CCC
altogether. ATi Tray Tools provides all the adjustments you need.

Too many companies abuse our systems when it comes to loading lots of
excess baggage. eg: ATI Hotkey Poller !

ATi Hotkey Poller is needed if you run a Radeon X1K card at default speeds.
The service governs the "speedstep" function that raises the clock speed to
full when the card enters full-screen 3D. If you overclock, though, the
service must be turned off, I think.

 

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CLI.exe is the Catalyst Control Center (CCC). By default CCC loads itself
into memory at Windows startup, so the applet will launch faster if you need
to adjust graphics settings.


It's easier just to disable it as a startup item through MSConfig (look for
entry called "CLIStart"). Doing this will not prevent CCC from launching
when you need it; it just takes longer. The exception here is if you run a
Crossfire setup. CCC needs to load at Windows startup for Crossfire to
activate.


You could have just downloaded the driver-only package, avoiding CCC
altogether. ATi Tray Tools provides all the adjustments you need.


ATi Hotkey Poller is needed if you run a Radeon X1K card at default speeds.
The service governs the "speedstep" function that raises the clock speed to
full when the card enters full-screen 3D. If you overclock, though, the
service must be turned off, I think.

Finally a decent reply to the question. Thank you !
One last question: Des the ATISmart Gart also need to run or is this also an
optional component ?

 

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Back when I owned a 9800 Pro, turning off SmartGART also turned off basic
Windows GDI acceleration, which made Windows painfully slow. With PCIe cards
I'm not sure if the same will happen. Give it a try.

 

[JLC]

CLI.exe is the Catalyst Control Center (CCC). By default CCC loads itself
into memory at Windows startup, so the applet will launch faster if you
need to adjust graphics settings.

You could have just downloaded the driver-only package, avoiding CCC
altogether. ATi Tray Tools provides all the adjustments you need.

I took your advice (I think it was you who turned me onto ATI Tray Tools)
and it works OK. I still had to install the old Control Panel because I
couldn't find a way to assign a hotkey so I can switch between my monitor
and my TV. I don't want to extend it, or clone it, I just want to switch the
display to my TV. It's easy to set up with Control Panel and it's a lot
faster then when I was running CCC. Running CCC it took forever to switch.
Sometimes it just wouldn't do it.
I still haven't got an answer to my question about what happens to Avivo
when not running CCC. I didn't see any Avivo setting in Tray Tools. Any
advice would be great.
JLC

 

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I took your advice (I think it was you who turned me onto ATI Tray Tools)
and it works OK. I still had to install the old Control Panel because I
couldn't find a way to assign a hotkey so I can switch between my monitor
and my TV. I don't want to extend it, or clone it, I just want to switch
the display to my TV. It's easy to set up with Control Panel and it's a
lot faster then when I was running CCC. Running CCC it took forever to
switch. Sometimes it just wouldn't do it.

I don't use TV-out, so I can't comment on how flexible ATT is versus the
Control Panel.

I still haven't got an answer to my question about what happens to Avivo
when not running CCC. I didn't see any Avivo setting in Tray Tools. Any
advice would be great.

By "AVIVO", you mean the options for adjusting video brightness, selecting
the deinterlace options, etc.? I have always left those options on default,
feeling no need to touch them. In ATT there's a section called "advanced
tweaks" with a long list of checkboxes; have you looked in there?

If you want the AVIVO Video Converter, it has to run from CCC. As far as I
know it hasn't been hacked to run independently yet, though even then it
would probably still require .NET Framework, which takes time to load on the
first run.

 

[JLC]

I don't use TV-out, so I can't comment on how flexible ATT is versus the
Control Panel.


By "AVIVO", you mean the options for adjusting video brightness, selecting
the deinterlace options, etc.? I have always left those options on
default, feeling no need to touch them. In ATT there's a section called
"advanced tweaks" with a long list of checkboxes; have you looked in
there?

If you want the AVIVO Video Converter, it has to run from CCC. As far as I
know it hasn't been hacked to run independently yet, though even then it
would probably still require .NET Framework, which takes time to load on
the first run.

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Thanks for the info. I don't need the AVIV converter, and I think you're
right about where the AVIV controls are in ATI Tray Tools. It's just to bad
that ATI can't get it together enough to release a CCC that is faster and
not such a resource hog. What's the purpose of those animated windows that
are suppose to show you a before and after? They're so small you can't tell
if you made a change or not. And it's just so clunky.
I'm really enjoying Tray Tools. There's a bit of a learning curve, but it's
a very handy program. JLC

 

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Thanks for the info. I don't need the AVIV converter, and I think you're
right about where the AVIV controls are in ATI Tray Tools. It's just to
bad that ATI can't get it together enough to release a CCC that is faster
and not such a resource hog.

No idea. Maybe this way ATi gets brownie points from the OEMs, for using the
"latest .NET technology".

What's the purpose of those animated windows that are suppose to show you
a before and after? They're so small you can't tell if you made a change
or not. And it's just so clunky.

Least common denominator. The preview animations are for the 99% of the
population that have no idea what FSAA or anisotropic filtering means.
nVidia's new control panel also has preview animations. Those previews
account for the 30 MB of RAM taken up when you open up the applet, and that
applies to both platforms.

I'm really enjoying Tray Tools. There's a bit of a learning curve, but
it's a very handy program. JLC

Too bad it doesn't have good Crossfire support. Then again, I can leave the
settings at 4xAA + 8x aniso for all games and never have to touch anything,
so it isn't too much of a pain.

 

[JLC]

No idea. Maybe this way ATi gets brownie points from the OEMs, for using
the "latest .NET technology".


Least common denominator. The preview animations are for the 99% of the
population that have no idea what FSAA or anisotropic filtering means.
nVidia's new control panel also has preview animations. Those previews
account for the 30 MB of RAM taken up when you open up the applet, and
that applies to both platforms.


Too bad it doesn't have good Crossfire support. Then again, I can leave
the settings at 4xAA + 8x aniso for all games and never have to touch
anything, so it isn't too much of a pain.

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Have you tried cranking the AF up to 16x? I'm just running one x1900xt (256)
and FEAR runs like butter at 4x Adaptive (quality mode) AA, 16xAF at
1280x1024 at setting set to high. JLC

 

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In my opinion, 8x AF is pretty much indistinguishable from 16x. I also don't
see much of an improvement going to 8x SuperAA versus the standard 4x AA.
And yes, I always run with Adaptive (quality mode).

Almost all midrange video cards can run FEAR at an acceptable speed. Now try
using the same settings in Oblivion with HDR, outdoors.

 

[JLC]

In my opinion, 8x AF is pretty much indistinguishable from 16x. I also
don't see much of an improvement going to 8x SuperAA versus the standard
4x AA. And yes, I always run with Adaptive (quality mode).

Almost all midrange video cards can run FEAR at an acceptable speed. Now
try using the same settings in Oblivion with HDR, outdoors.

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I can if I set the resolution to 1024x768. It's amazing how good the game
looks when you turn all the settings to high. JLC