Will RC2 be public??

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Can someone confirm. I've gone through about 15 news articles and some say
only original beta testers and TechNet subscribers only; others say public
for a very short time.
 
As far as i know RC2 will only be available to original beta testers and
Technet subscribers. It will not be a public beta.

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Then I should go back to XP b/c they aren't going to be concerned with build
5600 anymore, right?
 
...and RC2 was supposed to have the fix for what many of us are
experiencing...Windows Update has ceased to function along with Windows
Defender Updates.
Looks like I'll be forced to ditch Vista in that case.
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Peter
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XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Beta
P4 D865GBFL HT @ 3.0ghz 2.0gb DDR 700gb HD
ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
 
Each day I run check for error/replies = nothing I don't think our testing
will be of any value now to Microsoft although it does still give us the time
to use Vista with programs which do work on our builds. The beta client
report tool seems dead to any build apart from RC2 when released. I read and
hoped the news was true for all CPP :(

RC1 discs are still being posted to testers which is even more confusing if
the CPP beta is no longer valid.
 
5600 is still the official build to be used for Windows Vista Logo testing.
The new build, 5744, available on TechBeta today, is not feature different
and you still use it to test features for releability and functionality.
Since I am still downloading 5744, I don't know what has improved. It is
available in both x86 and x64 builds.
 
Looking forward to reading if there are any significant changes and maybe
later the be included in the small group of CPP permitted. Will just have to
read and then wait to see.
 
Personally I think they should open it up to everyone that's filled in
Beta/bug support/feedback.
 
I agree

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Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2 x 2 + Vista Beta
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ATI Radeon 9550 Graphics
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 4 Audio
 
It will be available to a small group CPP participants, similar to Pre-RC1
and 5728:

""This page includes information to help you download Windows Vista RC2, a
new test build. This build (5744) has a number of improvements and updates
from previous builds, and has been through daily testing processes to refine
quality and performance. We are making this release available for a limited
time only (and only by download) in order to get broad distribution and
testing in a variety of PC configurations. Please note: This build may not
have the same level of support or servicing via Windows Update as RC1, and
you may not be able to upgrade from this build to the final version of
Windows Vista. To continue, please use the links below to start the
download. Otherwise, please click here to access the download for Windows
Vista RC1 (build 5600)."
 
RC2 will definitely be public and this has been confirmed on a number of
MSFTie employee blogs, including Nick White's from the Vista Launch team.
They haven't been specific with how many downloads will be allowed, but
since the Redmunsters seem to be aping Steve Jobs in trying to learn to
create a little foreplay mistique, they will probably limit the quantity so
get there early. I suppose they are playing the shuffle with their Get
Vista CPP site because that's the usual fumbling of put it up take it down
put it up that MSFT does probably purposefully to whet your whistle or to
create foreplay excitement.

As people have said all over the web, the same thing was done with 5728 now
it's up/now it's down on the MSFT site and it creates buzz and MSFT tries to
make up in marketing for what it can't fix in their software--for example

As to the announcement on CPP RC2 or at least the first build of RC2 since I
know that at MSFT Redmond campus they know


"a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds adored by little
statesmen and philosophers and divines."--Ralph Waldo Emerson

and "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year
ago"--Bernard Berenson (American art critic, 1865-1959)

It is par for them to put up links, take them down, put them up. Enjoy the
ride.

As to feedback, it often means *NOTHING TO THEM --look at these examples of
feedback they ignore:

1) The upgrade advisor is full of delusional information that is not
accurate as to what hardware works on Vista and Microsoft refuses to fix
this.

2) Vista setup team has not fixed false information messages that Vista
can't setup from a dual boot and probably doesn't intend to as bright as
those guys and girls are because hey they're MSFT and they can do what they
wanna--just give them your money so they can smile more. They refuse to fix
it.

3) Device Manager does not convey driver integrity and has not since Window
'95 "started you up" RTMing with Mick Jagger on August 25, 1995 but hey
they're busy and they've only had a short time of 11 years to fix Device
Manager so it will stop saying "driver is working" when driver is in fact
trashed and a new one is needed. They refuse to fix it over eleven years.
Maybe Blackcomb/Vinenna-Redmond.

4) Desmond Lee's (PM Win RE) Startup Repair apparently the point guard for
fixing "no boot BSOD stop" Vista only works a part of the time. They should
test this at MSFT Research or in some Vista shop to see what the percentage
would be on 1000 boxes the way a pharmaceutical company tests the side
effects or non-efficacy of a drug.

5) You aren't going to be able to fix a no boot Vista accessing Win RE's
startup repair even if they improve it's efficacy if you buy an OEM box
without purchasing a retail Vista DVD or an OEM DVD. Be warned; if you try
to restore with a recovery disc or hidden or non-hidden partition on a
volume basis those don't work--there is always the case report of the guy
who says it worked fine for me but if you are in the habit of fixing these
every night on a MSFT Chat or a news group they don't work consistently so
be prepared on this. It happened in XP; it's going to happen in Vista.

Best,

CH
 
I know that I am a TechNet subscriber and one of the original BETA 2 testers
and I have not been getting invites to the latest releases in my email. I am
still stuck with RC1 Build 5600 mostly since the link to 5728 disappeared
within a few days. I am just wondering if I need to change my TechNet
preferences to go with Daily newsletters instead of the weekly to see an
invite.
 
Jeremy said:
I know that I am a TechNet subscriber and one of the original BETA 2
testers and I have not been getting invites to the latest releases in my
email. I am still stuck with RC1 Build 5600 mostly since the link to
5728 disappeared within a few days. I am just wondering if I need to
change my TechNet preferences to go with Daily newsletters instead of
the weekly to see an invite.

Jeremy:

You have a key. You have the link. Just go for it. I am an MSDN member
and these Vista downloads never appear there until long after the public
download, and in some cases not at all (e.g. 5728). RC2 is still not on
MSDN as of now. But I'm all downloaded, and burning right at this moment.

David Wilkinson
 
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