Will I get RC1?

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Travis King

I heard somewhere (sorry, no sources) that if you don't activate the DVD you
received from Microsoft for Vista Beta 2 on at least one computer, you will
not get the RC1 DVD from Microsoft. Is this true? Thanks. If so, I have
to find somewhere to use my DVD because I downloaded the ISO of Vista for my
computer and I only planned on testing Vista on my computer.
 
Yes, you will. If you ordered the DVD, you will get RC1. It doesn't
matter if you activate it or not. As you've downloaded it in the
meantime and installed it before the DVD arrived really doesn't mean
much.

Basically, when you ordered the Beta 2 DVD, you were also ordering the
RC1 DVD at the same time.

:)
 
Dustin said:
Yes, you will. If you ordered the DVD, you will get RC1. It doesn't
matter if you activate it or not. As you've downloaded it in the
meantime and installed it before the DVD arrived really doesn't mean
much.

Basically, when you ordered the Beta 2 DVD, you were also ordering the
RC1 DVD at the same time.

:)

So are you saying then that people who have downloaded Beta 2 and activated but haven't ordered the DVD can't get Release Candidate 1 ? aren't downloaders on the CPP allowed a copy of RC1 when its available to download ?
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So are you saying then that people who have downloaded Beta 2 and activated
but haven't ordered the DVD can't get Release Candidate 1 ? aren't
downloaders on the CPP allowed a copy of RC1 when its available to download ?
 
No, he's not. Anyone who paid the shipping cost for the dvd's will get both
Beta 2 and RC1 by mail. That has nothing to do with downloading whatsoever.
Download all you want.

As far as activation goes, MS cannot tell whether or not you ordered a dvd
just by your activating. MS has no idea of the identity of a person who
activates a product. All MS knows from activation is the hardware profile
(hardware hash) of the computer on which your Windows is activated.

You may be confusing activation and registration. You are never required to
register Windows and doing so or not makes no difference to how you receive
Vista Beta 2 and RC1.
 
Colin said:
No, he's not. Anyone who paid the shipping cost for the dvd's will get both
Beta 2 and RC1 by mail. That has nothing to do with downloading whatsoever.
Download all you want.

As far as activation goes, MS cannot tell whether or not you ordered a dvd
just by your activating. MS has no idea of the identity of a person who
activates a product. All MS knows from activation is the hardware profile
(hardware hash) of the computer on which your Windows is activated.

You may be confusing activation and registration. You are never required to
register Windows and doing so or not makes no difference to how you receive
Vista Beta 2 and RC1.
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Hi Colin,

I question that Microsoft "has no idea of the identity of a person who
activates a product". Whether or not Microsoft or someone else would
misuse the technology is an open question, but activation, surveying (an
example being Microsoft's newly implemented testing for a "real Windows"
product.) and updating software can potentially include a means of
reporting the details of any hardware,software or data files on one's
computer.
There are also some interesting implications of the new IPv6 protocol.
To quote one comment: "Yes, one of the several methods of assigning IPv6
addresses uses factory-assigned, unique serial numbers as part of the
address, but NO, not all IPv6 packets are required to carry such addresses."
The IPv6 privacy discussion concerns the implications of being able to
uniquely identify the source of each Internet or LAN communication.
 
My point is that activation can be done without supplying personal
information such as your address, which is what would be needed to link it
to dvd mailings. That was what was concerning the user. I am simply trying
to help him understand that you activate Windows and register the user.
 
drone_pilotwrote:
So are you saying then that people who have downloaded Beta 2 and
activated
but haven't ordered the DVD can't get Release Candidate 1 ? aren't
downloaders on the CPP allowed a copy of RC1 when its available to
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download ?

You can still get RC1. Either by download, or by making a new order.

If you order the beta 2 DVD, you'll get the RC1 DVD. That's only for
the physical media (and key).

If you'd rather download it, that's fine. You'll get beta 2 and RC1.
Just not the DVD (unless you order and pay for it).

Sorry if my previous post was confusing.
 
Thanks Dustin that clear's it up a bit - but people are still very confused
about whether they are eligible for RC1 or not. I am reading in this very
forum people hearing that Beta 2 Downloaders won't get RC1 because they
haven't ordered the DVD Kit. In other words RC1 is only for people who
ordered the DVD KIT.

I hope this information is flawed as I only downloaded Beta 2 and have
recieved my serial number from Microsoft. Not to mention I activated Vista
Beta 2 within 14 days. I will download a Release Candidate 1 by all means
when its available. I just don't see how ordering the DVD Kit which has the
two versions of Vista on it (64bit) and (32Bit) versions plus the keys makes
people any more eligible for RC1 than just downloading it. I signed the
agreement for the CPP it should be available to everyone.
 
The point is that signing up for the mailing is a one-time thing. You get
the Beta 2 build 5384 now by mail and then the RC1 a few months from now
when it is released and you have already paid the shipping cost for both up
front.
 
No idea what you mean ? - I signed up for the CPP to download the Beta 2
Operating System - I have no intention to get the DVD KIT so I'm not ordering
the KIT I don't see the point in ordering it on DVD if I can download it ?!
other than the fact it might be hard to download because of a high demand on
servers.

Your point is only relavant to people who have ordered the DVD KIT - its NOT
relevant to my question about people who have downloaded the Operating System
Beta.

My intention is to and was to download RC1 when it's available through
Microsoft the same way as Beta 2. I don't see why this should be a special
privilage to people who decided to order a DVD kit that isn't much more than
what is available if you download it anyway.
 
Also on the Vista Beta web site it does mention that there is 2 ways to get
Beta 2 either download it or order the CD. People who order the DVD also get
a copy of REC1 on DVD when it's available - cause thats what you paid for in
your order. But it doesn't say that RC1 is only for people who ordered it on
DVD ?

I assumed it must be available as a download as well when its available. I
don't think you need to re register either cause you have already signed up
for the CPP in any case.
 
Yes it does. Scroll down. The Order Now comes first and the Download Now
comes further down.
 
From Paul Thurrott's Winsupersite, he says that you must activate your
installation of beta 2 in order to gain access to the future RC1 build.
 
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