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Chris
I have a full copy of 98 and an upgrade version of XP.
Will I be able to use Upgrade Version of Vista?
Or have to buy the full retail?
Will I be able to use Upgrade Version of Vista?
Or have to buy the full retail?
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Cullen Dudas
I dont see why it wouldn't work. You will upgrade from 98 to XP to Vista. My
only warning, I have not had good experiences with upgrades, sometimes it
can cause system slow downs, unexpected problems, and doing that many
upgrades may be pushing it. I would recomend a full copy, but it will
upgrade.
-Cullen Dudas
only warning, I have not had good experiences with upgrades, sometimes it
can cause system slow downs, unexpected problems, and doing that many
upgrades may be pushing it. I would recomend a full copy, but it will
upgrade.
-Cullen Dudas
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Chris
No - I would want to do a clean install of Vista.
Like I do with the upgrade XP.
I do a clean install of XP.
It just asks me to insert the 98 CD to qualify.
Would I have to insert both 98 and XP CDs at some stage?
Like I do with the upgrade XP.
I do a clean install of XP.
It just asks me to insert the 98 CD to qualify.
Would I have to insert both 98 and XP CDs at some stage?
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John Barnes
As far as anyone knows now, you will have to do the install from within your
activated XP OS. You will have to do the clean install to a separate
partition, but your XP os should qualify.
activated XP OS. You will have to do the clean install to a separate
partition, but your XP os should qualify.
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Colin Barnhorst
Vista Upgrade Editions may not do that the same way as XP. There are
several threads on that subject running on here right now. Hold off until
that has been clarified. My advice is to buy the full edition so you don't
have to worry about it.
several threads on that subject running on here right now. Hold off until
that has been clarified. My advice is to buy the full edition so you don't
have to worry about it.
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Alias
Colin said:
My advice is not to buy it until it's got at least as far as SP2, if
then. Personally, I will continue to use XP but I am setting up a dual
boot to Ubuntu and, once I learn that, bye, bye, Windows and all their
anti piracy "features".
Alias
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Guest
But an OEM copy with whatever piece of hardware is needed to qualify for an
OEM licence (as long as you don't want to transfer the licence to another
machine in the future)
I'd be strangely suprised if the upgrade disk isn't bootable (for repair
purposes)
Colin T
OEM licence (as long as you don't want to transfer the licence to another
machine in the future)
I'd be strangely suprised if the upgrade disk isn't bootable (for repair
purposes)
Colin T
Colin Barnhorst said:
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Cullen Dudas
I have to TOTALY disagree with you. Wait until SP2? No, It is an excellent
OS IMO. So please do some research, Post your specs here first.
-Cullen Dudas
OS IMO. So please do some research, Post your specs here first.
-Cullen Dudas
Alias said:
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Guest
I am so disillusioned by the whole scenario. My understanding at this point
is that I cannot do a clean install of Vista from an upgrade disk. I will
have a non-bootable disk. Therefore, I will not have access to the repair
diagnostics on the Vista disk. I will be forced to buy the full version. Is
this correct? BTW, if you do not know for certain about Vista, please do not
reply to my note. I really want clarification from Microsoft please.
is that I cannot do a clean install of Vista from an upgrade disk. I will
have a non-bootable disk. Therefore, I will not have access to the repair
diagnostics on the Vista disk. I will be forced to buy the full version. Is
this correct? BTW, if you do not know for certain about Vista, please do not
reply to my note. I really want clarification from Microsoft please.
Colin Thompson said:
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Cullen Dudas
No, you can boot to the disc and use Vista's AWESOME repair functions
-Cullen Dudas
-Cullen Dudas
Jon Acord said:
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Colin Barnhorst
That's the problem. You may be speaking from your experience with the
betas, but they are all full editions. What we are hearing is that the
Upgrade editions (which none of us has ever seen) may not be bootable dvd's.
betas, but they are all full editions. What we are hearing is that the
Upgrade editions (which none of us has ever seen) may not be bootable dvd's.
Cullen Dudas said:
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Cullen Dudas
No, they are. All the Vista discs in every box are the same, maybe with a
different label. The Ultimate disc is the same as the basic disc. It is the
key that will determine it. So the disc will boot just fine. I have tested
an upgrade, using an upgrade key.
-Cullen Dudas
different label. The Ultimate disc is the same as the basic disc. It is the
key that will determine it. So the disc will boot just fine. I have tested
an upgrade, using an upgrade key.
-Cullen Dudas
Colin Barnhorst said:
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Colin Barnhorst
The product key determines the edition of Vista (Home, Business, Ultimate,
etc) but not whether or not it is a full edition or upgrade edition. The
set of product keys for the full editions are a different set than those for
the upgrade editions. OEM, upgrade, and full product keys have never been
interchangeable in any version of Windows. We were only given full version
product keys with our downloads.
etc) but not whether or not it is a full edition or upgrade edition. The
set of product keys for the full editions are a different set than those for
the upgrade editions. OEM, upgrade, and full product keys have never been
interchangeable in any version of Windows. We were only given full version
product keys with our downloads.
Cullen Dudas said:
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Cullen Dudas
Yes but there was a test where we could use upgrade keys way back in beta 2.
So we could test this specific scenario, it was one that had a very small
amount of people participate
-Cullen Dudas
So we could test this specific scenario, it was one that had a very small
amount of people participate
-Cullen Dudas
Colin Barnhorst said:
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Cullen Dudas
And yes, the product keys do determine that as well. There is one ISO, thats
not uypgrade and full ISOs, but one
-Cullen Dudas
not uypgrade and full ISOs, but one
-Cullen Dudas
Colin Barnhorst said:
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Colin Barnhorst
So did you test installation on a raw drive using just the upgrade edition?
Cullen Dudas said:
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xfile
An excellent OS in what ways?
Don't say something vague such as enhanced security, improved networks,
better multimedia experience, and so on.
Please be specific.
Example, enhanced security in terms of what (and how) have been changed and
what problems have been addressed for which cannot be done in XP under the
same scenario, and the benefits are?
I have been doing this research for long enough (including reading its white
paper)and have been reading posts from this and other NG's but all without
any luck and couldn't see any tangible reasons given by people praising this
OS is the "best".
Maybe you could enlighten me?
PS: Hardware specs have nothing to do with the unique features, they can
carry out what are there and/or improve performance but they can't solve
bugs or perform what are not included in OS, right?
Don't say something vague such as enhanced security, improved networks,
better multimedia experience, and so on.
Please be specific.
Example, enhanced security in terms of what (and how) have been changed and
what problems have been addressed for which cannot be done in XP under the
same scenario, and the benefits are?
I have been doing this research for long enough (including reading its white
paper)and have been reading posts from this and other NG's but all without
any luck and couldn't see any tangible reasons given by people praising this
OS is the "best".
Maybe you could enlighten me?
PS: Hardware specs have nothing to do with the unique features, they can
carry out what are there and/or improve performance but they can't solve
bugs or perform what are not included in OS, right?
Cullen Dudas said:
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Alias
Cullen said:
Pulease. Yes, wait at least, if at all, for SP2. No specs needed. If you
want specs, come back to this newsgroup in February when MS releases the
final beta to the final beta testers, the paying public.
Alias
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Jim Fraas
If THIS proves to be the case,I may end up getting Vists after all.
Cullen Dudas said:
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Cullen Dudas
Yes, specs DO matter. And it is way to hard for me to explain how the
security have been upgraded. Jim Allchin has said MANY times the
improvements are to vast to explain, and you will see the improvements over
years to come
-Cullen Dudas
security have been upgraded. Jim Allchin has said MANY times the
improvements are to vast to explain, and you will see the improvements over
years to come
-Cullen Dudas
xfile said:An excellent OS in what ways?
Don't say something vague such as enhanced security, improved networks,
better multimedia experience, and so on.
Please be specific.
Example, enhanced security in terms of what (and how) have been changed
and what problems have been addressed for which cannot be done in XP under
the same scenario, and the benefits are?
I have been doing this research for long enough (including reading its
white paper)and have been reading posts from this and other NG's but all
without any luck and couldn't see any tangible reasons given by people
praising this OS is the "best".
Maybe you could enlighten me?
PS: Hardware specs have nothing to do with the unique features, they can
carry out what are there and/or improve performance but they can't solve
bugs or perform what are not included in OS, right?
Cullen Dudas said: