Why is XPSP3 being RTM'ed?

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why bother RTM'ing XPSP3 at all, if manufacturers can only sell it with a
new computer for another couple of months?

Is this a hint at MS prolonging XP's shelf life yet again? Not that I
think that that would be a bad thing.

Let's hear your opinions.

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I expect that MS will likely extend XP's OEM life cycle again. In any case I
guess if OEMs buy up copies of XP prior to the deadline, I would think they can
still install them on new computers.
 
They can manufacture a helluva lotta PCs in the next 60 days! G-d knows
there will be a demand for them.
 
relic said:
You worry
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Am I worried? I thought I was just asking some questions. Silly me!
about things you shouldn't.
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Such as?

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PA said:
They can manufacture a helluva lotta PCs in the next 60 days! G-d knows
there will be a demand for them.
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LOL! I know I'd be choosing XPSP3 over Vista, were I in the market for a
new OEM-made computer over the next couple of months.

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kurttrail said:
why bother RTM'ing XPSP3 at all, if manufacturers can only sell it with a
new computer for another couple of months?

Is this a hint at MS prolonging XP's shelf life yet again? Not that I
think that that would be a bad thing.

Let's hear your opinions.
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I can think of one good reason. SP3 tidies up a whole bunch of updates
in one big (very big) lump.

XP shelf life can go on and on. It's the MS support that will eventually
end.

Bill
(who won't upgrade to Vista until he needs a new computer)
 
I've had that thought, Kurt. Still, has Microsoft ever needed really good
reasons for some of the decisions they have made?

Maybe they're doing it as a favor to those customers who will be forced to
buy Vista machines after June 30, but who will have downgrade rights to XP?

Alan
 
XP is about at the end of its life-cycle with microsoft,with SP3 being the
last
big update,they probably are in no rush to release the final
version.Prolonging
has nothing to do with it,xp is a dead-duck with MS OS (almost),why rush it
with SP3......
 
Bill said:
I can think of one good reason. SP3 tidies up a whole bunch of updates
in one big (very big) lump.

XP shelf life can go on and on.
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Actually no. MS is supposed to end it at the end of June.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2007/sep07/09-27xpsalescycle.mspx

"In an effort to respond to feedback the company is hearing from
its customers and partners, Microsoft is extending availability
of Windows XP editions among original equipment manufacturers (OEM)
and retail channels for an additional five months to June 30, 2008."
It's the MS support that will eventually
end.
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&x=12&y=11&p1=3223

Bill
(who won't upgrade to Vista until he needs a new computer)
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LOL!

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As you can see by other threads today in this ng, SP3 rtm'd today and will
be available on WU on the 29th. XP remains in mainstream support through
April 2009 and extended support through April 2014. XP at service pack
level 2 will be supported for 24 months from now. XP at service pack level
3 will be supported through April 2014. XP is hardly a dead duck. Please
check your facts.
 
kurttrail said:
why bother RTM'ing XPSP3 at all, if manufacturers can only sell it
with a new computer for another couple of months?

Is this a hint at MS prolonging XP's shelf life yet again? Not
that I think that that would be a bad thing.

Let's hear your opinions.
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Previous promises, answering requests for it, etc.
Personally - I doubt any dates will get extended any further... ;-)
 
Peter said:
Still, it does seem a little curious to me that MS are producing an
SP for an OS that is about to go off the market. I cannot help but
wonder if they are secretly harbouring an intention to extend its
availability slightly, even just as a PR exercise so people will
see them as responsive to their customers. It wouldn't be the first
time. On the other hand, who knows what goes on the collective mind
of MS?
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It is not unusual. Windows NT, Windows 2000... Heck - they will be
releasing patches for XP through 2014... That should be far beyond at least
the version of OS Microsoft puts out after Vista.
 
Peter said:
Still, it does seem a little curious to me that MS are producing an
SP for an OS that is about to go off the market. I cannot help but
wonder if they are secretly harbouring an intention to extend its
availability slightly, even just as a PR exercise so people will
see them as responsive to their customers. It wouldn't be the first
time. On the other hand, who knows what goes on the collective mind
of MS?
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Shenan said:
It is not unusual. Windows NT, Windows 2000... Heck - they will be
releasing patches for XP through 2014... That should be far beyond
at least the version of OS Microsoft puts out after Vista.
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Example:

- Windows 2000 SP4 released on June 26, 2003 and Windows 2000 Update Rollup
#1 for SP4 released on June 28, 2005... Windows 2000 stopped main support
on June 30, 2005, 2 days after the Rollup was released.
- Windows XP released on October 2001... Or almost two years before SP4 for
Windows 2000 was released.
 
Hey Shenan! How's it hanging?
Previous promises, answering requests for it, etc.
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And what's an extra eight days really gonna do for OEMs? OEMs had Vista
SP1 for a much longer time before SP1 was released to the masses.
Personally - I doubt
any dates will get extended any further... ;-)
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Yeah, I sure wouldn't put any money on it, but stranger things have
happened.

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I have a 2 year old laptop that can't handle Vista so needs to run XP.
I also have a 10 year old laptop that obviously can't handle Vista as well,
it has XP SP3 release candidate on it right now.
XP machines will be used for many years yet.
My brother has a new computer and he likes using XP even though I also put
Vista Ultimate x64 on it. He uses devices that just don't have drivers for
Vista, whether 32 bit or 64 bit.
And as others have noted, "XP at service pack level 3 will be supported
through April 2014."
 
kurttrail said:
why bother RTM'ing XPSP3 at all, if manufacturers can only sell it with a
new computer for another couple of months?

Is this a hint at MS prolonging XP's shelf life yet again? Not that I
think that that would be a bad thing.

Let's hear your opinions.
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I think there will be a huge amount of XP desktops into the next decade. There has not been
a big take up for Vista here (Australia) in the corporate sector (nor Government), and still
so far, businesses are not intending to upgrade during this side of the decade. I think it's
a Marketing ploy on MS's behalf, after all they are quite good at it, except for the Vista
hype that I personally don't think has delivered them their expected returns,... as yet anyway.

Considering a Vista change over Mr. Kurttrail?

Regards
- WindPipe
 
All this discussion!! SP3 was planned years ago, I remember reading about
it's approx. release date when SP2 first came out. I wish I could find that
page that outlines all the platforms and their life cycle.
 
Peter in New Zealand said:
Still, it does seem a little curious to me that MS are producing an SP for
an OS that is about to go off the market. I cannot help but wonder if they
are secretly harbouring an intention to extend its availability slightly,
even just as a PR exercise so people will see them as responsive to their
customers. It wouldn't be the first time. On the other hand, who knows
what goes on the collective mind of MS?
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Not really. It actually could be considered a confirmation of XP going to
the shelf. Just before you discontinue the sale of it and ramp down support
for it you would want to roll up all the changes into SP3 in this case. So
all future emergency patching will only reference SP3. That is simplify the
patch level before it is mothballed to make testing of the odd security
patches that will come later easier.
 
Canuck57 said:
Not really. It actually could be considered a confirmation of XP going
to the shelf. Just before you discontinue the sale of it and ramp down
support for it you would want to roll up all the changes into SP3 in
this case. So all future emergency patching will only reference SP3.
That is simplify the patch level before it is mothballed to make testing
of the odd security patches that will come later easier.
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But then why bother with releasing it to OEMs first? Why not just
release it to the world, if MS's intention is just to mothball XP on June
30th?

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