Who know which HDD? Samsung or Seagate

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Can You tell me which HDD will better for A8N Premium

Seagate 250 GB SATA 2 ST3250824AS
Samsung 250 GB SATA 2 SP2504C

do You have any expirience with these?
 
Figo said:
Can You tell me which HDD will better for A8N Premium

Seagate 250 GB SATA 2 ST3250824AS
Samsung 250 GB SATA 2 SP2504C

do You have any expirience with these?
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I opted for the Hitachi T7K250 (HDT722525DLA380), as it rivaled its peers in
speed and was a steal at $102 at Directron. Nice drive.
 
I opted for the Hitachi T7K250 (HDT722525DLA380), as it rivaled its peers in
speed and was a steal at $102 at Directron. Nice drive.
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I've only had one Western Digital fry in ten years, my bad on that
one. But Hitachi, Matrox and Samsung are good choices. I would stay
away from Seagate for the following reasons. They run above average
hot, if one goes bad on you under warrenty, their customer non-support
will send you a used drive instead of a new one. Which is stupid
beyond belief considering Seagates CEO just gave himself a 250,000.00
dollar raise this year! At the customers expense. WD replaced my drive
quickly and with a new drive. This last two months I have had three
seagates go south all on their own. Gave the last used one the sent me
away and bought a 320gb WD. Lower temps than my 160gb wd.
 
Your blanket generalization about Western Digital isn't the case for
everyone.

I had a Western Digital HDD which developed defects about a month before the
warranty expired. I obtained an RMA number from WDC Customer Support and
returned the defective drive under warranty. Western Digital did not send
me a new drive, it was a recertified refurbished drive.
 
Same with Seagate. I had a defective drive and it was replaced immediately.

Maybe it depends on the age of the HDD.

It seems to me most manufacturers are only as good as their last model.

Remember when everyone raved about certain IBM drives (can't recall model),
then out came the Deskstar - later redubbed Deathstar.
 
Your blanket generalization about Western Digital isn't the case for
everyone.

I had a Western Digital HDD which developed defects about a month before the
warranty expired. I obtained an RMA number from WDC Customer Support and
returned the defective drive under warranty. Western Digital did not send
me a new drive, it was a recertified refurbished drive.
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I guess it sounded like a blanket, wasnt meant that way. That is the
first Ive heard of a WD replacement with a used drive, but, gee whiz,
I guess I havnt heard it all yet ;{) It is true there are 6 million
stories in this city, this was just one of them. I work for a company
in the top 50 of the Fortune 500, and we push hard to " do the right
thing" for our customers, not always "do it right" for the company, so
I know the difference between "We cant do that" and " We dont want to
do that". If the company I work for can provide the service, genuine
original replacement items for customers and still make our margin,
and everybody makes money, customers are happy, vendors are happy,
then why cant companies like Seagate and WD provide the same? Its not
an ideal world Im talking about, this is basic business. The answer
methinks is greed. Ohwell, everone has their own ethics to live by.
 
Bill said:
I guess it sounded like a blanket, wasnt meant that way. That is the
first Ive heard of a WD replacement with a used drive, but, gee whiz,
I guess I havnt heard it all yet ;{) It is true there are 6 million
stories in this city, this was just one of them. I work for a company
in the top 50 of the Fortune 500, and we push hard to " do the right
thing" for our customers, not always "do it right" for the company, so
I know the difference between "We cant do that" and " We dont want to
do that". If the company I work for can provide the service, genuine
original replacement items for customers and still make our margin,
and everybody makes money, customers are happy, vendors are happy,
then why cant companies like Seagate and WD provide the same? Its not
an ideal world Im talking about, this is basic business. The answer
methinks is greed. Ohwell, everone has their own ethics to live by.
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HD vendors take back lots of HDs under warranty. Many have no problems
found,
and some others are easily refurb'd. It seems perfectly sensible to me
(and, obviously, to the HD vendors) to use those NPFs and refurbs as
replacements for other HDs being RMA'd; no point in throwing away
perfectly good material.
 
Bob Willard said:
HD vendors take back lots of HDs under warranty. Many have no problems
found,
and some others are easily refurb'd. It seems perfectly sensible to me
(and, obviously, to the HD vendors) to use those NPFs and refurbs as
replacements for other HDs being RMA'd; no point in throwing away
perfectly good material.
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Yes. Also such a drive, may well have a better likely reliability than a
'new' model. Given the classic 'bathtub' failure curve on parts, a drive
that is some weeks old, and has one part failed and replaced, has (on all
the other bits), effectively had a super 'burn in' test.

Best Wishes
 
Yes. Also such a drive, may well have a better likely reliability than a
'new' model. Given the classic 'bathtub' failure curve on parts, a drive
that is some weeks old, and has one part failed and replaced, has (on all
the other bits), effectively had a super 'burn in' test.

Best Wishes
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This is true, and makes sense, sort of. But I'm thinking also that
maybe your getting something that has parts that move and spin, so
what exactly do they ( the vendors) check and replace? When you by a
used car, it may appear okay, may drive fine, not smoke,shake,rattle,
but 1000 miles down the road that one gear in the transmission may
reach its max runout and shred itself and everything around it. Not as
likely a scenario with a new car. Although anything manmade is prone
to failure at some point. I guess what it boils down to is for me,
just in my own experience, is that new equipment of any kind generally
last longer that used, refurbished, pre-owned (with the exception of
toyota trucks ;{) anything. Just my proclivity. Thanks for your
views and insights.

Share what you know, learn what you don't.
 
Bill said:
This is true, and makes sense, sort of. But I'm thinking also that
maybe your getting something that has parts that move and spin, so
what exactly do they ( the vendors) check and replace? When you by a
used car, it may appear okay, may drive fine, not smoke,shake,rattle,
but 1000 miles down the road that one gear in the transmission may
reach its max runout and shred itself and everything around it. Not as
likely a scenario with a new car. Although anything manmade is prone
to failure at some point. I guess what it boils down to is for me,
just in my own experience, is that new equipment of any kind generally
last longer that used, refurbished, pre-owned (with the exception of
toyota trucks ;{) anything. Just my proclivity. Thanks for your
views and insights.

Share what you know, learn what you don't.
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Your car analogy is a bit of a stretch, IMHO, since HDs have MTBFs of
(very roughly) a million hours; cars do not. In practice, HDs last a
long time if reasonably cooled.

My #2 PC runs 24x7 and has 3 HDs, mfg'd in '95, '99, and '01. My #3 PC
runs 24x7 and has a '98 HD. My #4 PC runs 24x7 and has a '96 HD. {Those
PCs never turn off their HDs, since the HDs are all used for logging.}

To paraphase an old (famous) soldier, "Old HDs never die; they just get
replaced."
 
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