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JoeM
In my opinion, if you haven't started yet, don't waste your time with BCM
and its inherent frustrations.
and its inherent frustrations.
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Lon Orenstein
What are your needs, Big Toe? If you have basic needs for contact
management or sales opportunity or project management, then BCM might be
better. If you have needs for more security (like letting the little toe
see only their contacts and the middle toe only see theirs), then ACT might
be better for you.
HTH,
Lon
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Lon Orenstein
pinpointtools, llc
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Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
www.pinpointtools.com
management or sales opportunity or project management, then BCM might be
better. If you have needs for more security (like letting the little toe
see only their contacts and the middle toe only see theirs), then ACT might
be better for you.
HTH,
Lon
___________________________________________________________
Lon Orenstein
pinpointtools, llc
(e-mail address removed)
Author of Outlook 2007 Business Contact Manager For Dummies
Author of the eBook: Moving from ACT! to Business Contact Manager
www.pinpointtools.com
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Guest
I'd have to say stay away from BCM. I thought it would be great but it is
very limited and Microsoft doesn't seem to understand the way businesses work
or have any desire to fix its obvious shortcomings. Plus, it is incredibly
slow.
very limited and Microsoft doesn't seem to understand the way businesses work
or have any desire to fix its obvious shortcomings. Plus, it is incredibly
slow.
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Luther
I'd have to say stay away from BCM. I thought it would be great but it is
very limited and Microsoft doesn't seem to understand the way businesses work
or have any desire to fix its obvious shortcomings. Plus, it is incredibly
slow.
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But is ACT faster than BCM on the same machine with Outlook running?
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Guest
Probably not much but the slow part was more of an afterthought. I
constantly have to fight with BCM. For example, I use a column in some views
called "assign to user." Sometimes it appears in the menus and sometimes it
doesn't. Sometimes the category column will show all of the categories to
which something is assigned and sometimes it will only show one category. If
you go to a history screen and see a bunch of emails and add a column "From"
the column will be added but the contents remain empty so you can't see who
sent the email history item. You can only assign one account to a contact,
the list just goes on and on. Sure, there is a work around for most of these
but I really prefer that my software works for me rather than me working for
my software. Combine this mess with the Vista debacle, talk about slow, and
I'm close to switching to Mac.
constantly have to fight with BCM. For example, I use a column in some views
called "assign to user." Sometimes it appears in the menus and sometimes it
doesn't. Sometimes the category column will show all of the categories to
which something is assigned and sometimes it will only show one category. If
you go to a history screen and see a bunch of emails and add a column "From"
the column will be added but the contents remain empty so you can't see who
sent the email history item. You can only assign one account to a contact,
the list just goes on and on. Sure, there is a work around for most of these
but I really prefer that my software works for me rather than me working for
my software. Combine this mess with the Vista debacle, talk about slow, and
I'm close to switching to Mac.
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Guest
Okay the Mac comment was hyperbole but the fact remains that Microsoft has
totally lost its way.
totally lost its way.
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Guest
Let's all lobby for Microsoft to buy ACT! from Sage and merge the two into
one fine program!!
. . .and . . .is there any OTHER alternative to these two programs?
one fine program!!
. . .and . . .is there any OTHER alternative to these two programs?
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mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com
Check out this alternative: www.avidian.com. In my opinion, this
alternative more gracefully integrates into Outlook's same Contact db. You
are NOT forced to manually recreate an entirely separate folder and contact
db designation. This alternative is also very Exchange friendly.
-THP
alternative more gracefully integrates into Outlook's same Contact db. You
are NOT forced to manually recreate an entirely separate folder and contact
db designation. This alternative is also very Exchange friendly.
-THP
Let's all lobby for Microsoft to buy ACT! from Sage and merge the two into
one fine program!!
. . .and . . .is there any OTHER alternative to these two programs?
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]I'd have to say stay away from BCM. I thought it would be great but it is
very limited and Microsoft doesn't seem to understand the way businesses work
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Guest
Wow Brian!! That looks like THE answer. Thank you!
1. I assume one doesn't need BCM if he uses Prophet 4.0?
2. After getting all ACT! info into Outlook, (and becoming familiar with
Prophet), it looks easy to leave ACT! behind - without any reason to use ACT!?
1. I assume one doesn't need BCM if he uses Prophet 4.0?
2. After getting all ACT! info into Outlook, (and becoming familiar with
Prophet), it looks easy to leave ACT! behind - without any reason to use ACT!?
mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com said:Check out this alternative: www.avidian.com. In my opinion, this
alternative more gracefully integrates into Outlook's same Contact db. You
are NOT forced to manually recreate an entirely separate folder and contact
db designation. This alternative is also very Exchange friendly.
-THP
Let's all lobby for Microsoft to buy ACT! from Sage and merge the two into
one fine program!!
. . .and . . .is there any OTHER alternative to these two programs?
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]I'd have to say stay away from BCM. I thought it would be great but it is
very limited and Microsoft doesn't seem to understand the way businesses workWhich is better?
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mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com
Avidian's Prophet Outlook add-in provides an even more compelling reason to
leave ACT behind than BCM does in my opinion.
-THP
leave ACT behind than BCM does in my opinion.
-THP
Wow Brian!! That looks like THE answer. Thank you!
1. I assume one doesn't need BCM if he uses Prophet 4.0?
2. After getting all ACT! info into Outlook, (and becoming familiar with
Prophet), it looks easy to leave ACT! behind - without any reason to use ACT!?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]Check out this alternative: www.avidian.com. In my opinion, this
alternative more gracefully integrates into Outlook's same Contact db. You
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Blue Arrow
Oh, there is Maximizer and Goldmine too.
Reply to Me_Paul L said:Let's all lobby for Microsoft to buy ACT! from Sage and merge the two into
one fine program!!
. . .and . . .is there any OTHER alternative to these two programs?
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mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com
Neither Maximizer nor Goldmine are "Outlook-Centric."
-THP
-THP
Blue said:Oh, there is Maximizer and Goldmine too.
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]Let's all lobby for Microsoft to buy ACT! from Sage and merge the two into
one fine program!!
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Guest
Hi Tim:
I only have Outlook installed, not BCM. My question was: Should I just
install Prophet to work with Outlook, and not install BCM? I think the answer
is “correctâ€, but just wanted to make sure.
Thank You.
I only have Outlook installed, not BCM. My question was: Should I just
install Prophet to work with Outlook, and not install BCM? I think the answer
is “correctâ€, but just wanted to make sure.
Thank You.
mrtimpeterson via OfficeKB.com said:Avidian's Prophet Outlook add-in provides an even more compelling reason to
leave ACT behind than BCM does in my opinion.
-THP
Wow Brian!! That looks like THE answer. Thank you!
1. I assume one doesn't need BCM if he uses Prophet 4.0?
2. After getting all ACT! info into Outlook, (and becoming familiar with
Prophet), it looks easy to leave ACT! behind - without any reason to use ACT!?
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]Check out this alternative: www.avidian.com. In my opinion, this
alternative more gracefully integrates into Outlook's same Contact db. YouWhich is better?