* Which ram configuration would you get?

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JJY

Hi,

I'm looking for what type of ram to buy for my A8N-SLI Deluxe. I was told to
get CAS2 440mhz ram from Corsair, but the problem is that the place I will
be purchasing the ram from doesn't seem to mention "CAS2" in their index
codes. It's probably replaced by some other tech term I don't recognize.

Here is the link :
http://www.microbytes.com/products.php?show=all&pcid=203

What are my options with regards to assembling 2GB of Corsair ram on a
soon-to-be-purchased A8N-SLI Deluxe, limited to this list only?

Thanks!
 
JJY said:
Hi,

I'm looking for what type of ram to buy for my A8N-SLI Deluxe. I was told to
get CAS2 440mhz ram from Corsair, but the problem is that the place I will
be purchasing the ram from doesn't seem to mention "CAS2" in their index
codes. It's probably replaced by some other tech term I don't recognize.

Here is the link :
http://www.microbytes.com/products.php?show=all&pcid=203

What are my options with regards to assembling 2GB of Corsair ram on a
soon-to-be-purchased A8N-SLI Deluxe, limited to this list only?

Thanks!

Make absolutely sure that you are buying a matched pair if you are intending
to set up in dual channel.

Try the Corsair site for more info:

http://compatible.corsairmemory.com/

Jon
 
3200+ said:
Make absolutely sure that you are buying a matched pair if you are
intending
to set up in dual channel.

Try the Corsair site for more info:

http://compatible.corsairmemory.com/

Jon

Will do. 4x512 or 2x1GB. But can you recommend me which exact precise parts
to get from the list I posted? That's what my local dealer has to offer, and
I'd really like to get everything at the same place.
 
JJY said:
Will do. 4x512 or 2x1GB. But can you recommend me which exact precise parts
to get from the list I posted? That's what my local dealer has to offer, and
I'd really like to get everything at the same place.

2 * 1GB for two reasons.

1) you will be presenting less load to the Athlon's on-chip memory cotroller
and as such will be able to run the board at 1T command rate.

2) you will still have two free slots in case you wish to stick in some more
modules.

I have the A8N-Sli and I am currently running on these modules very very
happily:

CORSAIR 400MHZ DDR NO-ECC 2G TWINX C2

Jon
 
3200+ said:
2 * 1GB for two reasons.

1) you will be presenting less load to the Athlon's on-chip memory cotroller
and as such will be able to run the board at 1T command rate.

2) you will still have two free slots in case you wish to stick in some more
modules.

I have the A8N-Sli and I am currently running on these modules very very
happily:

CORSAIR 400MHZ DDR NO-ECC 2G TWINX C2

Jon

Which is:

http://www.microbytes.com/showproduct.php?stk=18315

Corsair Data Sheet:

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/specs/twinx2048-3200c2.pdf

The links above may have wrapped.

Jon
 
Hi Nem,

I am currently going to purchase the same board you have. Asus P4C800-E
deluxe and a P4 3.2 prescott. I just hope it is a Version 2 board like
yours. I plan on buying all the hardware at www.newegg.com .
1- how do you like your board and CPU combo?
2- is there any heat problems?
3- what ram did you buy for it?
4- What video card do you have on it. I just purchased a BFG 6800GT OC AGP
and love it... :)

Richard
 
"JJY" said:
Will do. 4x512 or 2x1GB. But can you recommend me which exact precise parts
to get from the list I posted? That's what my local dealer has to offer, and
I'd really like to get everything at the same place.

Personally, I like to reward businesses, based on how knowledgeable
they are about the products they sell. Judging by that list, your
computer store owner should be running the produce department at
a local grocery store, and not a computer store. (By the way - I
don't see Corsair even mentioned on that page - the memory looks
too cheap to be Corsair.)

If someone sells Corsair, they should use Corsair part numbers.
That way, they are absolved from any mis-identification of what
is being sold. To simply list memory as "apples" or "oranges",
without indicating who makes them, part numbers, etc., is
just asking for trouble.

This is how my local "mom & pop" computer store sells memory.
Even though everything listed on their web pages, is a single
line description, the info given is much better than what
microbytes is offering you. At least with the part number, I
can go to the Corsair web site, and look up the details.

http://crawfordmicrosystems.com/pro...e&ProductType=RAM&SelectMfr=All Manufacturers

Considering the dollar amount involved in the purchase of premium
memory, no way would I just purchase all the stuff at one store.
Maybe try the prices on ncix.com, as they are in Canada. I've
had good luck with them. Another company you could use, is
directdial.com, as they have presence in both Canada and the US.
But I definitely did not enjoy doing business with them (they are
a middle man, and they front for a bunch of small businesses -
dealing with them is OK, if you buy one item at a time, and you
know exactly what you want).

Here is another example of a local store. You can compare the
prices here, to ncix.com . Note that I don't do business with
them, because they don't list part numbers. If I were to do
business with them, I'd have to phone and ask what the
part number was. This is important in the case of the Corsair,
as there are 1GB modules with CAS2.5 (CAS2 on an Intel board),
and modules with much worse CAS3 timing, and you don't want to
spend that kind of money and buy the CAS3 stuff. Pccyber
could be selling TWINX2048-3200C2 (CAS2.5) or TWINX2048-3200
(CAS3), and you would want the 3200C2 stuff.

http://pccyber.ca/scrMain2.asp?product_types_id=20

It looks like 2x1024 is going to cost $672 CDN at ncix.com .

It is a tough choice, picking memory for a S939 board. If you
go 2x1024, you can use DDR400 1T timing. That is 20% more memory
bandwidth than 4x512MB, which will take DDR333 1T or DDR400 2T
timing (the 2T is called "Command Rate", and the 2 means an
extra cycle is wasted allowing the address to settle on the bus,
so you really want to be using 1T and not 2T). Even though you
may think of the DDR400 rating of those PC3200 sticks to be
limiting, you can always use a "divider" between the FSB and
the memory bus.

(Note - A serious overclocker simply wouldn't use 2GB of main
memory. It would be like owning a race car, and filling the
trunk with bags of cement :-))

Corsair products are listed here. If you click the part number,
you will get a PDF datasheet, that tells you what timings the
modules use.

http://corsairmicro.com/corsair/xms.html

I just noticed that Crucial now lists a 1GB module. This one
is PC4000 3-4-4-8. It is a little more expensive than the Corsair.
And, since I don't know how far a S939 processor can be pushed,
I don't know if this would be better than the Corsair or not.
To a first order approximation, "clock rate is king", and so
DDR500, if it could be run that fast, should be better. I would
want someone else to test it, like one of the private forums,
to find out if it has "better numbers down low", so you have
some options when setting up your system.

http://www.crucial.com/ballistix/store/PartSpecs.asp?imodule=BL12864Z503&cat=

And over here, Kingston has a PC3700 3-4-4-8 1GB stick. So, max
clock is a little less than the Crucial.

http://kingston.com/hyperx/thelines/default.asp?type=khxu

So now you've got a few choices. All you need now, is some
overclocking results from the private forums, to see whether
DDR500 rates could be profitably used.

My choices above, are prefaced on the fact, that 4 sticks would
require 2T command rate setting, at any decent clock rate.
Therefore, these 1GB modules are a better platform to work with,
as they should be operable with 1T command rate.

Paul
 
JJY said:
Hi,

I'm looking for what type of ram to buy for my A8N-SLI Deluxe. I was told to
get CAS2 440mhz ram from Corsair, but the problem is that the place I will
be purchasing the ram from doesn't seem to mention "CAS2" in their index
codes. It's probably replaced by some other tech term I don't recognize.

Here is the link :
http://www.microbytes.com/products.php?show=all&pcid=203

What are my options with regards to assembling 2GB of Corsair ram on a
soon-to-be-purchased A8N-SLI Deluxe, limited to this list only?

Thanks!

LL, PL, XL or C2 should all be Cas2.

You can check that at www.corsairmicro.com

Be sure that the board can do 200MHz with 4DIMMS if you're going to go
that route, but 1GB modules are more expensive.

Ben
 
JJY said:
Will do. 4x512 or 2x1GB. But can you recommend me which exact precise parts
to get from the list I posted? That's what my local dealer has to offer, and
I'd really like to get everything at the same place.

For my A8N SLI Deluxe I bought Corsair TWINX2048-3200C2, which is
labelled cas2, and does 2-3-3-6 on intel and 2.5-3-3-6 on AMD systems.
It's expensive, but fast, and leaves me with two empty slots should I
get hungry for more.
For now it seems that 2x1GB is the way to go, as you will be able to run
the dual set at 1T, whereas using 4x512MB would require a timing of 2T,
which causes a significant drop in performance. Should you find these
corsais modules too expensive, I'd like to note that you'd even be
better of with 2x1GB at cas3 with a 1T timing, in stead of 4x512 cas2
memory at 2T.
 
Paul said:
Personally, I like to reward businesses, based on how knowledgeable
they are about the products they sell. Judging by that list, your
computer store owner should be running the produce department at
a local grocery store, and not a computer store. (By the way - I
don't see Corsair even mentioned on that page - the memory looks
too cheap to be Corsair.)

Did you actually go to the link he provided? It very clearly lists a whole
bunch of Corsair memory, plus Crucual, Kingston and several other brands,
many of them with a link to a picture of the actual RAM module, not hard to
find when the icon used is a tiny camera. Their only lack is that they do
not provide the actual part number from Corsair, which is not hard to
correlate from the Corsair website at www.corsairmicro.com.
(Note - A serious overclocker simply wouldn't use 2GB of main
memory. It would be like owning a race car, and filling the
trunk with bags of cement :-))

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

First off, if you know how to set it up, 2x1GB is the best allotment of
memory you can get, unless you happen to have a really fat wallet that can
fork out for 2x2GB sticks. It's only when trying to make 2GB from 4x512MB
sticks that you encounter a problem, which you even documented in your own
post.

Second, if you knew anything about real racing (not the American stock-car
crap), you would know that one of the best setups is a mid-engine vehicle
with a bit of extra weight added to the trunk (which is in the FRONT) to
help keep the nose on the road (in addition to ground effects).

P.S.: JJY, good luck finding 440MHz RAM :)
 
"DD" said:
Did you actually go to the link he provided? It very clearly lists a whole
bunch of Corsair memory, plus Crucual, Kingston and several other brands,
many of them with a link to a picture of the actual RAM module, not hard to
find when the icon used is a tiny camera. Their only lack is that they do
not provide the actual part number from Corsair, which is not hard to
correlate from the Corsair website at www.corsairmicro.com.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

First off, if you know how to set it up, 2x1GB is the best allotment of
memory you can get, unless you happen to have a really fat wallet that can
fork out for 2x2GB sticks. It's only when trying to make 2GB from 4x512MB
sticks that you encounter a problem, which you even documented in your own
post.

Second, if you knew anything about real racing (not the American stock-car
crap), you would know that one of the best setups is a mid-engine vehicle
with a bit of extra weight added to the trunk (which is in the FRONT) to
help keep the nose on the road (in addition to ground effects).

P.S.: JJY, good luck finding 440MHz RAM :)

Strange thing is, when I first loaded that page, I only saw the
first group of product. I don't think the whole page loaded. I
can see it all now. It's a huge list! Apologies to Mr. Microbytes :-)

Paul
 
Did you actually go to the link he provided? It very clearly lists a whole
bunch of Corsair memory, plus Crucual, Kingston and several other brands,
many of them with a link to a picture of the actual RAM module, not hard to
find when the icon used is a tiny camera. Their only lack is that they do
not provide the actual part number from Corsair, which is not hard to
correlate from the Corsair website at www.corsairmicro.com.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

First off, if you know how to set it up, 2x1GB is the best allotment of
memory you can get, unless you happen to have a really fat wallet that can
fork out for 2x2GB sticks. It's only when trying to make 2GB from 4x512MB
sticks that you encounter a problem, which you even documented in your own
post.

If you can find 1GB sticks of DDR RAM that support 2-2-2-5 timings ,
then you could support the statement you made here. If you can't,
then please explain how "2x1GB is the best allotment of memory you can
get."


Ron
 
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