whether can logon to windows 2000 or 2003 domain

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Hi, there
I have a general question on logon to windows 2000 or 2003 domain with
windows 2K pro or XP pro:

We have company wide network with windows2003 SBS as Domain controller and
a lot of latop user is either 2K or XP. some time, even the laptop not
connect to company network, the user can logon to his user desktop, however
some laptop can not, it will give err msg of" domain controller not
available", which is right and which is wrong, by right, when the pc is not
connected, can it logon? If yes, what I need configure on those who can not?

Thanks in advance!

Shermaine
 
The first thing I'd check is DNS settings - any computer logging into a
domain should be configured to use the domain DNS server as its only DNS
server, with the domain DNS server configured to resolve all other
addresses.

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Yes, the server and users all use company DNS server, and I configured the
ISP DNS server as forwarder on my DNS server.
So by right, if network connection is down, whether i can logon to windows
with the domain credential?


Richard G. Harper said:
The first thing I'd check is DNS settings - any computer logging into a
domain should be configured to use the domain DNS server as its only DNS
server, with the domain DNS server configured to resolve all other
addresses.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
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* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
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xiaomei said:
Hi, there
I have a general question on logon to windows 2000 or 2003 domain with
windows 2K pro or XP pro:

We have company wide network with windows2003 SBS as Domain controller
and
a lot of latop user is either 2K or XP. some time, even the laptop not
connect to company network, the user can logon to his user desktop,
however
some laptop can not, it will give err msg of" domain controller not
available", which is right and which is wrong, by right, when the pc is
not
connected, can it logon? If yes, what I need configure on those who can
not?

Thanks in advance!

Shermaine
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Hi, Richard G. Harper
Thanks for your reply.

I configured "obtain DNS server address automatically" on TCP/IP seting
instead of manualy key in the company DNS server address on client PC.

And on the Local DNS server TCP/IP setting, configure it's own IP as primary
DNS server, and another NT4.0 with SP6 as 2nd DNS server

xiaomei said:
Yes, the server and users all use company DNS server, and I configured the
ISP DNS server as forwarder on my DNS server.
So by right, if network connection is down, whether i can logon to windows
with the domain credential?


Richard G. Harper said:
The first thing I'd check is DNS settings - any computer logging into a
domain should be configured to use the domain DNS server as its only DNS
server, with the domain DNS server configured to resolve all other
addresses.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


xiaomei said:
Hi, there
I have a general question on logon to windows 2000 or 2003 domain with
windows 2K pro or XP pro:

We have company wide network with windows2003 SBS as Domain controller
and
a lot of latop user is either 2K or XP. some time, even the laptop not
connect to company network, the user can logon to his user desktop,
however
some laptop can not, it will give err msg of" domain controller not
available", which is right and which is wrong, by right, when the pc is
not
connected, can it logon? If yes, what I need configure on those who can
not?

Thanks in advance!

Shermaine
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Is the DHCP server configured to hand out the correct DNS address for the
domain controller? If you open a command prompt and type:

ipconfig /all

Is the AD domain controller's IP address shown as the primary DNS server?

As for your other question, whether logons will work or not if the domain is
not available, that depends on a number of options that might or might not
be configured on the PC or via group policy.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


xiaomei said:
Hi, Richard G. Harper
Thanks for your reply.

I configured "obtain DNS server address automatically" on TCP/IP seting
instead of manualy key in the company DNS server address on client PC.

And on the Local DNS server TCP/IP setting, configure it's own IP as
primary
DNS server, and another NT4.0 with SP6 as 2nd DNS server

xiaomei said:
Yes, the server and users all use company DNS server, and I configured
the
ISP DNS server as forwarder on my DNS server.
So by right, if network connection is down, whether i can logon to
windows
with the domain credential?


Richard G. Harper said:
The first thing I'd check is DNS settings - any computer logging into a
domain should be configured to use the domain DNS server as its only
DNS
server, with the domain DNS server configured to resolve all other
addresses.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Hi, there
I have a general question on logon to windows 2000 or 2003 domain
with
windows 2K pro or XP pro:

We have company wide network with windows2003 SBS as Domain
controller
and
a lot of latop user is either 2K or XP. some time, even the laptop
not
connect to company network, the user can logon to his user desktop,
however
some laptop can not, it will give err msg of" domain controller not
available", which is right and which is wrong, by right, when the pc
is
not
connected, can it logon? If yes, what I need configure on those who
can
not?

Thanks in advance!

Shermaine
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Hi, Richard G. Harper,
Thanks for your time and assitance.
Actually this is a very small company with only 20 user, so only one 2003
SBS serve as DC, DNS and DHCP server.
No GP configured. I just find some user can logon ,some can not when the DC
is not availaible, so the only difference is the PC configuration, so what
changes need I make on the pc to make them can logon even the DC not present.

Thanks a lot.

Rgds
Shermaine

Richard G. Harper said:
Is the DHCP server configured to hand out the correct DNS address for the
domain controller? If you open a command prompt and type:

ipconfig /all

Is the AD domain controller's IP address shown as the primary DNS server?

As for your other question, whether logons will work or not if the domain is
not available, that depends on a number of options that might or might not
be configured on the PC or via group policy.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


xiaomei said:
Hi, Richard G. Harper
Thanks for your reply.

I configured "obtain DNS server address automatically" on TCP/IP seting
instead of manualy key in the company DNS server address on client PC.

And on the Local DNS server TCP/IP setting, configure it's own IP as
primary
DNS server, and another NT4.0 with SP6 as 2nd DNS server

xiaomei said:
Yes, the server and users all use company DNS server, and I configured
the
ISP DNS server as forwarder on my DNS server.
So by right, if network connection is down, whether i can logon to
windows
with the domain credential?


:

The first thing I'd check is DNS settings - any computer logging into a
domain should be configured to use the domain DNS server as its only
DNS
server, with the domain DNS server configured to resolve all other
addresses.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Hi, there
I have a general question on logon to windows 2000 or 2003 domain
with
windows 2K pro or XP pro:

We have company wide network with windows2003 SBS as Domain
controller
and
a lot of latop user is either 2K or XP. some time, even the laptop
not
connect to company network, the user can logon to his user desktop,
however
some laptop can not, it will give err msg of" domain controller not
available", which is right and which is wrong, by right, when the pc
is
not
connected, can it logon? If yes, what I need configure on those who
can
not?

Thanks in advance!

Shermaine
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
The ability to log on when the domain is not available is based on cached
logins:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q172931/

Either the PC is not configured to cache logins, or there are so many cached
logins that older ones are being forced off the system. The above article
explains.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


xiaomei said:
Hi, Richard G. Harper,
Thanks for your time and assitance.
Actually this is a very small company with only 20 user, so only one 2003
SBS serve as DC, DNS and DHCP server.
No GP configured. I just find some user can logon ,some can not when the
DC
is not availaible, so the only difference is the PC configuration, so what
changes need I make on the pc to make them can logon even the DC not
present.

Thanks a lot.

Rgds
Shermaine

Richard G. Harper said:
Is the DHCP server configured to hand out the correct DNS address for the
domain controller? If you open a command prompt and type:

ipconfig /all

Is the AD domain controller's IP address shown as the primary DNS server?

As for your other question, whether logons will work or not if the domain
is
not available, that depends on a number of options that might or might
not
be configured on the PC or via group policy.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


xiaomei said:
Hi, Richard G. Harper
Thanks for your reply.

I configured "obtain DNS server address automatically" on TCP/IP seting
instead of manualy key in the company DNS server address on client PC.

And on the Local DNS server TCP/IP setting, configure it's own IP as
primary
DNS server, and another NT4.0 with SP6 as 2nd DNS server

:

Yes, the server and users all use company DNS server, and I configured
the
ISP DNS server as forwarder on my DNS server.
So by right, if network connection is down, whether i can logon to
windows
with the domain credential?


:

The first thing I'd check is DNS settings - any computer logging
into a
domain should be configured to use the domain DNS server as its only
DNS
server, with the domain DNS server configured to resolve all other
addresses.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Hi, there
I have a general question on logon to windows 2000 or 2003 domain
with
windows 2K pro or XP pro:

We have company wide network with windows2003 SBS as Domain
controller
and
a lot of latop user is either 2K or XP. some time, even the laptop
not
connect to company network, the user can logon to his user
desktop,
however
some laptop can not, it will give err msg of" domain controller
not
available", which is right and which is wrong, by right, when the
pc
is
not
connected, can it logon? If yes, what I need configure on those
who
can
not?

Thanks in advance!

Shermaine
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Hi, Richard G. Harper
Very appreciate ur kind help.

With my Best regards
Shermaine
Richard G. Harper said:
The ability to log on when the domain is not available is based on cached
logins:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q172931/

Either the PC is not configured to cache logins, or there are so many cached
logins that older ones are being forced off the system. The above article
explains.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


xiaomei said:
Hi, Richard G. Harper,
Thanks for your time and assitance.
Actually this is a very small company with only 20 user, so only one 2003
SBS serve as DC, DNS and DHCP server.
No GP configured. I just find some user can logon ,some can not when the
DC
is not availaible, so the only difference is the PC configuration, so what
changes need I make on the pc to make them can logon even the DC not
present.

Thanks a lot.

Rgds
Shermaine

Richard G. Harper said:
Is the DHCP server configured to hand out the correct DNS address for the
domain controller? If you open a command prompt and type:

ipconfig /all

Is the AD domain controller's IP address shown as the primary DNS server?

As for your other question, whether logons will work or not if the domain
is
not available, that depends on a number of options that might or might
not
be configured on the PC or via group policy.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Hi, Richard G. Harper
Thanks for your reply.

I configured "obtain DNS server address automatically" on TCP/IP seting
instead of manualy key in the company DNS server address on client PC.

And on the Local DNS server TCP/IP setting, configure it's own IP as
primary
DNS server, and another NT4.0 with SP6 as 2nd DNS server

:

Yes, the server and users all use company DNS server, and I configured
the
ISP DNS server as forwarder on my DNS server.
So by right, if network connection is down, whether i can logon to
windows
with the domain credential?


:

The first thing I'd check is DNS settings - any computer logging
into a
domain should be configured to use the domain DNS server as its only
DNS
server, with the domain DNS server configured to resolve all other
addresses.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
* My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


Hi, there
I have a general question on logon to windows 2000 or 2003 domain
with
windows 2K pro or XP pro:

We have company wide network with windows2003 SBS as Domain
controller
and
a lot of latop user is either 2K or XP. some time, even the laptop
not
connect to company network, the user can logon to his user
desktop,
however
some laptop can not, it will give err msg of" domain controller
not
available", which is right and which is wrong, by right, when the
pc
is
not
connected, can it logon? If yes, what I need configure on those
who
can
not?

Thanks in advance!

Shermaine
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