Where to buy IP5000?

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Robin King

Lots of places, I know, but are there any you
particularly recommend, or are there any to
particularly avoid?

I've seen many threads on ink quality, but
can you tell me how the ink holds up on a
tee shirt transfer?

Also, what is the difference between dye,
ink, and pigment?

Robin
 
Robin King said:
Lots of places, I know, but are there any you
particularly recommend, or are there any to
particularly avoid?

I've seen many threads on ink quality, but
can you tell me how the ink holds up on a
tee shirt transfer?

Also, what is the difference between dye,
ink, and pigment?

Robin
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Where you are thinking of buying from?
 
If you want to purchase it online, I would recommend newegg.com.
Lots of places, I know, but are there any you
particularly recommend, or are there any to
particularly avoid?

I've seen many threads on ink quality, but
can you tell me how the ink holds up on a
tee shirt transfer?

Also, what is the difference between dye,
ink, and pigment?

Robin
 
Robin King said:
Lots of places, I know, but are there any you
particularly recommend, or are there any to
particularly avoid?

I've seen many threads on ink quality, but
can you tell me how the ink holds up on a
tee shirt transfer?

Also, what is the difference between dye,
ink, and pigment?

Robin
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Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to be more
fade resistant. They are a suspension of tiny particles of colored pigments
whereas the dye based inks are an aqueous solution of dyes. The dye based
inks, used in all the other inkjet printers, are rated as less fade
resistant. Longevity of the prints is the issue. Evaluation by Willhelm, a
testing firm, ranked the various manufacturers' inks by fade resistance, and
some company's dye based ink and paper combinations appear to be more fade
resistant than others. Canon also uses pigment based black ink for text
printing in several printers in their more recent lines, including the ip
5000, while using dye based inks for color printing. Buydig has the lowest
price on one of the price comparison sites and has a link for a Canon $20
rebate coupon. That coupon is available by googling "canon pixma printer
rebate coupon" , and it appears that it can be used for purchasing this
printer from any vendor. I have purchased several items, including
printers, from Amazon and have found them to be extremely reliable. I don't
know about Buydig, but someone on the NG may have some comments about this
vendor.
 
Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to be more
fade resistant. They are a suspension of tiny particles of colored pigments
whereas the dye based inks are an aqueous solution of dyes. The dye based
inks, used in all the other inkjet printers, are rated as less fade
resistant.
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That is not quite true - most ever manufacturer has black pigment inks for
text. HP has color pigment ink for some printers, but not in the low end
consumer market.

Dye based inks can have lightfastness that is comparable to pigments - compare
the HP Photosmart 8450 (dye based) results at
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/hp/8450.html with the Epson R8000 at
http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/R800.html.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
 
Burt said:
Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to be more
fade resistant. They are a suspension of tiny particles of colored pigments
whereas the dye based inks are an aqueous solution of dyes. The dye based
inks, used in all the other inkjet printers, are rated as less fade
resistant. Longevity of the prints is the issue.
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THEY HAVE A GREATER TENDENCY FOR BRONZING THAN DYE INKS. THEY ALSO HAVE
A GREATER TENDENCY TO CLOG YOUR PRINTER. EVEN EPSON OEM INKS BUT
AFTERMARKET INKS ARE DEFINATELYH NO GOOD. ALL OF THEM ARE NOT WORTH A SHIT.
Evaluation by Willhelm, a
testing firm, ranked the various manufacturers' inks by fade resistance, and
some company's dye based ink and paper combinations appear to be more fade
resistant than others. Canon also uses pigment based black ink for text
printing in several printers in their more recent lines, including the ip
5000, while using dye based inks for color printing. Buydig has the lowest
price on one of the price comparison sites and has a link for a Canon $20
rebate coupon. That coupon is available by googling "canon pixma printer
rebate coupon" , and it appears that it can be used for purchasing this
printer from any vendor. I have purchased several items, including
printers, from Amazon and have found them to be extremely reliable. I don't
know about Buydig, but someone on the NG may have some comments about this
vendor.
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IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS NG.
ESPECIALLY BURTIE
 
| Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to
be more
| fade resistant.

<snip of thorough explanation>|

Thank you for explaining it, Burt.

Now I was just wondering if the Canon colors
would last as long as the rest of the tee shirt!

Robin
 
| If you want to purchase it online, I would recommend newegg.com.

Thanks! Yes, I would prefer to buy it online
from a reliable dealer. Will I need to buy a separate
USB cable, or does it come with the printer?

Robin
 
Bob said:
[snip]

Also, what is the difference between dye,
ink, and pigment?
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Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to be more
fade resistant. They are a suspension of tiny particles of colored pigments
whereas the dye based inks are an aqueous solution of dyes. The dye based
inks, used in all the other inkjet printers, are rated as less fade
resistant.
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HEAR DAT BURTIE - N O T Q U I T E T R U E
 
Robin said:
| Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to
be more
| fade resistant.

<snip of thorough explanation>|

Thank you for explaining it, Burt.

Now I was just wondering if the Canon colors
would last as long as the rest of the tee shirt!

Robin
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DOESN'T THAT DEPEND ON THE QUALITY OF THE TEE SHIRT
 
Robin said:
| If you want to purchase it online, I would recommend newegg.com.

Thanks! Yes, I would prefer to buy it online
from a reliable dealer. Will I need to buy a separate
USB cable, or does it come with the printer?

Robin
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COSTCO IS THE BEST PLACE. THE USB CABLE IS ADDITIONAL
 
Robin said:
| If you want to purchase it online, I would recommend newegg.com.

Thanks! Yes, I would prefer to buy it online
from a reliable dealer. Will I need to buy a separate
USB cable, or does it come with the printer?

Robin
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I would assume it's the same here in Canada as it is in
the US of A - BYOB.

Sorry, no; that beer. Make that BYOC: Buy Your Own Cable.
Make sure it's long enough, depending on your placement.

-Taliesyn
 
Taliesyn said:
I would assume it's the same here in Canada as it is in
the US of A - BYOB.

Sorry, no; that beer. Make that BYOC: Buy Your Own Cable.
Make sure it's long enough, depending on your placement.

-Taliesyn
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Is urs long enough
 
Bob Headrick said:
That is not quite true - most ever manufacturer has black pigment inks for
text. HP has color pigment ink for some printers, but not in the low end
consumer market.
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Sorry, Bob, I should have narrowed my answer to that market niche. It
appears, from the OP question, that he was interested in the consumer
market. Regarding the relative fade resistance of different manufacturers'
dye based inks, I mentioned the Wilhelm (I misspelled it) research but
didn't have the links at my fingertips. Without going back and re-reading
that data I do recall that HP dye based inks were shown, in the reported
Wilhelm tests, to be more fade resistant than other mfgr's dye based inks,
and Canon (which I use) had a low rating for fade resistance when subjected
to their testing protocol.
 
Burt said:
[snip]


Also, what is the difference between dye,
ink, and pigment?


Pigment inks are used by many of the Epson printers and are rated to be
more
fade resistant. They are a suspension of tiny particles of colored
pigments
whereas the dye based inks are an aqueous solution of dyes. The dye
based
inks, used in all the other inkjet printers, are rated as less fade
resistant.
Click to expand...
That is not quite true - most ever manufacturer has black pigment inks for
text. HP has color pigment ink for some printers, but not in the low end
consumer market.
Click to expand...

Sorry,
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AH SO SO SORRY U NOW SA IT ALL DA TIME HA HA HA
Bob, I should have narrowed my answer to that market niche. It
appears, from the OP question, that he was interested in the consumer
market. Regarding the relative fade resistance of different manufacturers'
dye based inks, I mentioned the Wilhelm (I misspelled it) research but
didn't have the links at my fingertips. Without going back and
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re-reading
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I THINKU SHOULD
 
measekite wrote:

IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS NG.
ESPECIALLY BURTIE
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Wrongo bird brain. It's impossible to believe anything you ever say or
have said.
Frank
 
Frank said:
measekite wrote:


Wrongo bird brain. It's impossible to believe anything you ever say or
have said.
Frank
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righto bird brain. It's impossible to believe anything you ever say or
have said.
 
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