Where has the OE Outlook shortcut bar gone?

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Trond Ruud

I really miss the Outlook shortcut bar, and haven't realized before now, how
much scrolling and clicking it saved me.
The Outlook bar option is not included in the Windows Mail's Layout menu, as
it was in OE. Is it hidden, somewhere else? Or can I do something to get it
back?
Regards
Trond Ruud
 
Hi, Trond.

What's a "shortcut bar"? And are you talking about Outlook Express? Or
Outlook - a completely different program? (Please don't include a phrase
like "OE Outlook" in the Subject line.)

Please tell us, step by step, how to see the "shortcut bar" - and WHICH
program it is/was in.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
 
Hi R. C. White,
The shortcut bar is a progran interface layout option in the Outlook Express
6 Layout menu. I now have Vista, with Windows Mail, and have not memorized
all the different menus, in OE6, nor where they can be found I'm afraid. But
I don't understand what your complaint is? Do you mean there is no shortcut
bar in OE6, where users can place shortcuts to different mail folders and
newgroups? Or do you mean it is not called the Outlook bar in OE?
 
Hi, Trond.

I don't have a complaint. You have a complaint and I'm trying to help you.

But I've never heard of an "Outlook bar" in OE. Or a "shortcut bar",
either.

Maybe it's a language problem. That's why I asked for a step-by-step
description of how you were able to view these bars in OE.

Maybe you mean the Menu Bar (File, Edit, View, etc.). For some reason that
I don't understand, WM's programmers decided to hide that bar. It's the one
between the Title Bar (the very top, with the X at the far right) and the
Toolbar (New, Reply, etc.). To see the Menu Bar temporarily, just press the
<Alt> key. To turn it on permanently, look at the right end of the Toolbar,
just to the left of the "?". If you hover your mouse over this mysterious
icon, you should see "Show menu" pop up. Click the icon and check the
bottom line of the menu that appears: Show the menu bar.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
 
Trond Ruud said:
Hi R. C. White,
The shortcut bar is a progran interface layout option in the Outlook
Express 6 Layout menu. I now have Vista, with Windows Mail, and have not
memorized all the different menus, in OE6, nor where they can be found I'm
afraid. But I don't understand what your complaint is? Do you mean there
is no shortcut bar in OE6, where users can place shortcuts to different
mail folders and newgroups? Or do you mean it is not called the Outlook
bar in OE?
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The old Outlook Bar did not make it through the transition from OE to
WinMail. Many of us quit using it so long ago that we forget it was ever
there.
 
Hi, Frank.

Thanks for the reminder - but I still don't remember an "Outlook Bar" in OE.
Something went kerflooey with my WinXP Pro last fall and I've not been able
to boot into it since, so I haven't seen OE6 in about 8 months. But Vista
went RTM at about that time, so I really haven't missed XP.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
 
Frank Saunders said:
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Click to expand...
The old Outlook Bar did not make it through the transition from OE to
WinMail. Many of us quit using it so long ago that we forget it was ever
there.
Click to expand...
Too bad!
I have used it (for years) Didn't realize how much, until now, when it has
been removed.
The reason it was little used (user-numberwise) was probably because it was
a pretty well hidden, user interface layout feature. I don't remember how I
discovered it, but I probably experimented with the different layout options
and liked it sufficiently to keep it on.

The nice thing with it was, it let you return directly to the top (mail
inbox) with a single click from message 393 far down in some newsgroup. No
scrolling required. Or vice versa, jump directly down to your most used
newsgroup from the Inbox, rather than scrolling up and down like mad,
hunting for some newsgroup far down.

It was probably a much too hidden feature to gain much popularity with
users, and MVPs :-)

But all the scrolling up-and-down in Windows Mail now, has made me realize
how much I used it, and miss it.

Here's an example of OE with the Outlook bar activated:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/troruud/Screen shots/OylookExpresswithOutlookBar.jpg

And here is the OE6 Layout menu:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/troruud/Screen shots/OE-OutlookBar.jpg

Thanks to Christer in Sweden for making the screen shots and mailing them
over!
Trond Ruud,
Norway
 
R. C. White said:
Hi, Trond.

I don't have a complaint. You have a complaint and I'm trying to help
you.
Click to expand...

Sorry R. C. White,
I obviously got you wrong then. I got the impression you were mainly
concerned with me making an error, by using the term "Outlook bar" since you
admonished me to «Please don't include a phrase like "OE Outlook" in the
Subject line», my subject line being: "Where has the OE Outlook shortcut bar
gone?"

My question was of course only aimed at those who know what the OE Outlook
bar is, so it never occured to me that there was any ambiguity in the way I
phrased the question. But when you point it out, I agree that Microsoft
should perhaps called it something else than "Outlook bar".
Regards
Trond Ruud,
Norway
 
Trond Ruud said:
Too bad!
I have used it (for years) Didn't realize how much, until now, when it has
been removed.
The reason it was little used (user-numberwise) was probably because it
was a pretty well hidden, user interface layout feature. I don't remember
how I discovered it, but I probably experimented with the different layout
options and liked it sufficiently to keep it on.

The nice thing with it was, it let you return directly to the top (mail
inbox) with a single click from message 393 far down in some newsgroup. No
scrolling required. Or vice versa, jump directly down to your most used
newsgroup from the Inbox, rather than scrolling up and down like mad,
hunting for some newsgroup far down.

It was probably a much too hidden feature to gain much popularity with
users, and MVPs :-)

But all the scrolling up-and-down in Windows Mail now, has made me realize
how much I used it, and miss it.

Here's an example of OE with the Outlook bar activated:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/troruud/Screen shots/OylookExpresswithOutlookBar.jpg

And here is the OE6 Layout menu:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/troruud/Screen shots/OE-OutlookBar.jpg

Thanks to Christer in Sweden for making the screen shots and mailing them
over!
Trond Ruud,
Norway
Click to expand...

As soon as I discovered the Folder List I abandoned the Outlook Bar.
 
Hi, Trond.

Aha! Thanks for the links to the screenshots. ;<)

I still do not remember the name "Outlook Bar", but I vaguely recall that
bar. Like Frank, I always used - and still use - the Folder List.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail beta in Vista Ultimate x64)
 
R. C. White said:
Hi, Trond.

Aha! Thanks for the links to the screenshots. ;<)

I still do not remember the name "Outlook Bar", but I vaguely recall that
bar. Like Frank, I always used - and still use - the Folder List.
Click to expand...

Well
The Folder List has been there all along. You make it sound like a fancy new
feature in Windows Mail which it's NOT!
The ONLY new thing I've discovered is that the Outlook bar has been removed.
And for what obscure purpose I can't imagine? Apart from making a move to a
3rd. party mail and news client less traumatic?

I still use Windows Mail, but it's hanging in an ever thinner thread, and
I've started experimenting with other alternatives, since the Outloook bar
was one of the features that kept me to the straight and narrow. There are
some other features too, but that's outside this discussion.
 
Likewise. I don't remember "Outlook Bar", and have always used the
Folder List. Isn't it displayed by default?

Gary VanderMolen
 
They removed a number of features and screwed up some other ones just for
their own indulgence.

steve
 
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