Where are these THINGS in my verson of WXP-Home? = Sharon

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~ FreeSpirit ~

Here is another example why I cannot help myself with WXP-Home. My version
doesn't have so many thing the MS sites (or the techs here) talks about.
There is NO "Printers and Other Hardware" when I click on and open Control
Panel. What version of XP does the MS (and you techs) site talk about?
The Pro version or some brand new version of XP-Home I don't have? All I
have in Control Panel are "Printers and Faxes" and "scanners and cameras"...
No "Printers and Other Hardware."

I found no trouble shooting pages in the MS website for the camera and
scanner wizard.

Note
..To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
**Printers and Other Hardware**, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
..If you have a Plug and Play camera, Windows detects it and installs it
automatically.
..If your camera or scanner is not Plug and Play, follow the installation
instructions that came with the device
..If your camera or scanner is not listed in the Scanner and Camera
Installation Wizard, try to install it using Device Manager. For more
information, click Related Topics.
..After you install your scanner or camera, you can test it. For more
information, click Related Topics.

** It is installed but I can't test it because when I click on the camera
and properties it says "no information avalible."

Can you somehow find the "camera/scanner wizard" trouble shooting page/s at
the MS site? Maybe I'm not searching right..... :*(

FS.........
 
It depends on if you have the "View" of the Control Panel window set either
as "Category" (the new XP GUI view) or "Classic" (Windows 9x) view.

In Control Panel, on the left hand side near the top it has those drop-down
box/menu things the first one has
"Switch to....View". Just swap between the views until you see the icon
you're asking about.

If this doesn't solve the problem, it may be something else that needs to be
done, but I'm all out of suggestions other than the above.

I don't know how else you've customised your system....eg using "Classic"
theme or "XP" theme etc - this completely changes the way the GUI looks and
feels, and the theme you use also determines what shows in windows such as
the Control Panel.

It sounds like the tech guys you're speaking with have their machines on
"Classic" theme/view.
 
There is'nt a 'Printers and other Hardware' option in the control panel

If your camera isnt recognised, did you install the software supplied with
your camera and follow *explicitly* the instructions for installing,
supplied by Camera bumph?
Have you checked the Camera manu.web site for any updated software/drivers
for winxp?
 
Control Panel has 2 different views. You have the Windows XP view and you
have the Classic View. What you see is different between the 2 views.

Example:

On my main computer I have 38 items when using the classic view. If I use
the Windows XP view, these 38 items are contained within 10 choices. The 10
choices are named differently, in trying to indicate what may be within that
particular choice. Each of the 10 choices is a repository for the various
items (out of the 38) that are contained within.

Experiment a bit and get to know your system. There are many choices and
customizations available that allow you to make the system behave the way
YOU would like it to behave. You don't have to live with the defaults,
although I would expect that 75% of all users do just this.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"
 
Andrew Murray said:
It depends on if you have the "View" of the Control Panel window set
either as "Category" (the new XP GUI view) or "Classic" (Windows 9x) view.
Click to expand...

** I would think most average users wouldn't even know about that.
In Control Panel, on the left hand side near the top it has those
drop-down box/menu things the first one has
"Switch to....View". Just swap between the views until you see the icon
you're asking about.
Click to expand...

** OK. I found it there.
If this doesn't solve the problem, it may be something else that needs to
be done, but I'm all out of suggestions other than the above.
Click to expand...

** I can assume then that the techs and MS site is using the new GUI and
thinks people would know.
I don't know how else you've customised your system....eg using "Classic"
theme or "XP" theme etc - this completely changes the way the GUI looks
and feels, and the theme you use also determines what shows in windows
such as the Control Panel.
Click to expand...

** OK. I understand that. Thanks.
It sounds like the tech guys you're speaking with have their machines on
"Classic" theme/view.
Click to expand...

** That's what mine is set to - they're using the new view evidently.

FS..........
 
DL said:
There is'nt a 'Printers and other Hardware' option in the control panel

If your camera isnt recognised, did you install the software supplied with
your camera and follow *explicitly* the instructions for installing,
supplied by Camera bumph?
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## Yes, even though I've been using this camera for 2 years now without a
problem. I even reinstalled it but the WIZARD still doesn't come up. Add &
Remove Programs wont allow me to *uninstall* it to reinstall it which is
what I would have preferred to do.
Have you checked the Camera manu.web site for any updated software/drivers
for winxp?
Click to expand...

## Yes. How do I get the wizard to come up when I install anything into
the flash drive? The camera drivers don't do that, it's not their job.

FS.................
 
nor said:
Strange, DL, I have always had it in my control panel.
Click to expand...

So do I if I do as she said. I have my PC set to Classic view because I
don't like the new XP interface. When you read instructions they don't give
them for Classic-View evidently.

FS...........
 
Richard Urban said:
Control Panel has 2 different views. You have the Windows XP view and you
have the Classic View. What you see is different between the 2 views.

Example:

On my main computer I have 38 items when using the classic view. If I use
the Windows XP view, these 38 items are contained within 10 choices. The
10 choices are named differently, in trying to indicate what may be within
that particular choice. Each of the 10 choices is a repository for the
various items (out of the 38) that are contained within.
Click to expand...

$$ Yes, I just learned that. :-)
Experiment a bit and get to know your system. There are many choices and
customizations available that allow you to make the system behave the way
YOU would like it to behave. You don't have to live with the defaults,
although I would expect that 75% of all users do just this.
Click to expand...

$$ I prefer the classic view since that's what I'm familiar with. Any idea
how I can get the wizard to work again?

FS.........
 
## Yes. How do I get the wizard to come up when I install anything into
the flash drive? The camera drivers don't do that, it's not their job.
Click to expand...

Just to clarify: The drivers and camera have to identify themselves to the
WIA services (the underpinnings for the scanner/camera wizard). If camera
is compatible with the wizard and if the camera's WIA drivers have been
installed then the wizard is available to use. So the drivers don't run the
wizard but without them the wizard won't ever show up.
 
Sharon F said:
Just to clarify: The drivers and camera have to identify themselves to the
WIA services (the underpinnings for the scanner/camera wizard). If camera
is compatible with the wizard and if the camera's WIA drivers have been
installed then the wizard is available to use.
Click to expand...

## What does WIA mean? It's been working for 2 years as I said. The
camera's drivers are there! Why isn't the Wizard coming up?

So the drivers don't run the
wizard but without them the wizard won't ever show up.
Click to expand...

## I installed all the camera's software several times, and the wizard
still doesn't come up.

FS~
 
FS,

Simply put - your profile setup is still messed up - how about this:

Create yourself a new administrative level user and start using it - I think
a lot of things that are "wrong" for you will fade away.
Yes - I know you are the only user - you still will be, you will just have
two different logons available in Windows XP - there's still only one you -
nothing confusing about that. You could even name the user "FREESPIRIT" if
you like.

HOW TO: Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279783

I think this may solve so many of your problems...
 
## What does WIA mean? It's been working for 2 years as I said. The
camera's drivers are there! Why isn't the Wizard coming up?
Click to expand...

WIA was introduced... I think in Win98. It stands for "Windows Image
Acquisition." Until WIA appeared, image devices supplied their own TWAIN
drivers (joke: technology without an interesting name).

SP2 is a major update/upgrade to the operating system. Service Packs are
usually notable but SP2 for XP was especially so. While some hardware might
stop working after a minor change, the chances for something to "break"
with a major update are larger.

When hardware suddenly doesn't work after a system change, it's common
practice to reinstall the hardware (and possibly drivers and related
software) so that the device can be "reintroduced" to the rest of the
now-changed-due-to-large-update infrastructure. It's also not unusual to
find new "updated" (or fixed) drivers from the device manufacturers after a
major operating system change is distributed.

There's one fact that is constant about technology - it's always changing.
 
Shenan Stanley said:
FS,

Simply put - your profile setup is still messed up - how about this:

Create yourself a new administrative level user and start using it - I
think a lot of things that are "wrong" for you will fade away.
Yes - I know you are the only user - you still will be, you will just have
two different logons available in Windows XP - there's still only one
you - nothing confusing about that. You could even name the user
"FREESPIRIT" if you like.

HOW TO: Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279783

I think this may solve so many of your problems...
Click to expand...
====================
OK I created it - now how do I find it? It's not showing under WE. Where
did it go????

FS ~
 
~ FreeSpirit ~ said:
====================
OK I created it - now how do I find it? It's not showing under WE. Where
did it go????
Click to expand...

Did you log in as the new user?
Nothing is really created until you do this.
 
~ FreeSpirit ~ said:
HOW TO: Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279783

I think this may solve so many of your problems...
====================
OK I created it - now how do I find it? It's not showing under WE.
Where did it go????
Click to expand...

Shenan said:
Did you log in as the new user?
Nothing is really created until you do this.
Click to expand...

More Details:

First - create your new user:
HOW TO: Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279783

Make it an "Administrative User".
Log in as the user at least ONCE to allow the creation of the files/folders
for the user - before you log in - you have only created the "idea" of the
user - the building of the profile in C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME
does not happen until you log in.

Now - reboot.

Log in as the new user.

Take ownership of all of the files/folders under c:\documents and
settings\OLDUSERNAME:
HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421

How to disable simplified sharing & set permissions
on a shared folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307874

Once you have taken ownership of the files/folders, you should be able to
browse them. I would copy files from the OLDUSERNAME user to the new user
folders.. But not from any of these directories or their sub directories:

Application Data
Cookies
Desktop
Favorites
Local Settings
NetHood
PrintHood
Recent
SendTo
Templates
UserData
WINDOWS

And not ANY NTUSER.* file(s).

Reboot again - log in as the "new" user.

Now you should have much of your old desktop (albeit laid-out differently)
and start menu (also possibly laid-out differently) and your favorites in
Internet Explorer, etc.. Many settings you may have had set in
Word/Excel/Etc may have to be redone - but this user should be setup
correctly unless your machine is really toasted and the Default User profile
was corrupted at some time.
 
Shenan Stanley wrote:
Once you have taken ownership of the files/folders, you should be
able to browse them. I would copy files from the OLDUSERNAME user to
the new user folders.. But not from any of these directories or
their sub directories:
Application Data
Cookies
Desktop
Favorites
Local Settings
NetHood
PrintHood
Recent
SendTo
Templates
UserData
WINDOWS

And not ANY NTUSER.* file(s).
Click to expand...

Whoops..
It's okay to copy from "Favorites".
Sorry. =)
 
Shenan Stanley said:
Did you log in as the new user?
Nothing is really created until you do this.
Click to expand...
=======================
How do I log in as the new user when there is no log-in on this PC? It
boots and is ready to go, no log-in windows.

FS~
 
Shenan Stanley said:
More Details:

First - create your new user:
HOW TO: Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279783
Click to expand...

## OK I did that. I made another Administrator account called FreeSpirit
Administrator.
Make it an "Administrative User".
Click to expand...

## I think I did. I picked Administrator.
Log in as the user at least ONCE to allow the creation of the files/folder
for the user - before you log in - you have only created the "idea" of the
user - the building of the profile in C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME
does not happen until you log in.
Click to expand...

## How do I "log in" to it?
Now - reboot.
Click to expand...
Log in as the new user.
Click to expand...

## I will when I find out how to log-in to this PC. No log-in window ever
comes up. Where is the log-in window or how do I make it come up?

FS~
 
I'm not sure I understand how to move them or "take ownership" to the new
FreeSpirit Administrator folder. First I have to find out how to log-in to
this PC as there is no log-in window when I turn it on.

Shenan Stanley said:
Shenan Stanley wrote:
<Snip>
Click to expand...

## What's an NTUSER * file?
Whoops..
It's okay to copy from "Favorites".
Sorry. =)
Click to expand...

FS~
 
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