What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?

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What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?
I haven't got one at the moment - so I might as well get a good one.
Is it as fast as RAM?
 
No way.... RAM is much faster

Get 2 Gb of RAM and you won´t need the pendrive thing.

I have´t seen any tests showing the benefits of the pendrive during the
startup.

Any links?!? Reviews??!?

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What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?
I haven't got one at the moment - so I might as well get a good one.
Is it as fast as RAM?
 
The difference is that the pendrive can store data while the PC is off.
I´ll try to make a few tests here.


No way.... RAM is much faster

Get 2 Gb of RAM and you won´t need the pendrive thing.

I have´t seen any tests showing the benefits of the pendrive during the
startup.

Any links?!? Reviews??!?

news:gz5YoaDWVqBFFwgY@[127.0.0.1]...
What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?
I haven't got one at the moment - so I might as well get a good one.
Is it as fast as RAM?
 
What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?
I haven't got one at the moment - so I might as well get a good one.
Is it as fast as RAM?

I bought a Kingston Data Traveler on sale this week at Circuit City.
Supposed to be one of the faster drives, especially for random access, and
it was mentioned on a site I found as being one of the few that works with
ReadyBoost.

Vista RC1 accepted it just find and I dedicated 860MB out of 1GB to
ReadyBoost. Not sure I can see much difference yet, but my system has 2GB
of RAM already as well.
 
Thats so wronge, i to was anti pen drive thing but i did some tests.

I have a very good LAPPY folllowing spec :

Memory 2GIG
Disk 100 GIG RAID 0 (100MB/s)
AMD 64 x2 4400

With USB stick, build times of my visual studio solutions, 45 Secs.
Without USB stick, build times are 100Secs.

Now thats good :D

Looking at memory usage, Cache 900Meg, free Physical Memory 100Meg.

Generally performance does feel much better with ready boost, if I use
Perfmon I can really see that it using it.

As for what stick to buy, don't believe the performance on the stick, that's
for SEQ reads not RANDOM reads, I have seen USB Sticks with 15MB/s SEQ
slower at RANDOM reads than USB sticks with 9MB/s SEQ reads.



Steve
 
I have´t seen any tests showing the benefits of the pendrive during the

Startup?

I certainly hope that's not when a user stands to gain the most
benefit...'cuz I have two systems with BIOSes that simply *refuse* to boot
(hangs while detecting drives) if my memory stick happens to already be
hooked up when I power it up...*after* bootup...no problem...but I always
have to remember to yank it out for a restart/power up.
 
You are right... I don´t know why I had the idea that the readyboost was
used to speed up the boot.

Maybe because "boot" looks like "boost"...lol

More info:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/foreveryone/performance.mspx
http://blogs.msdn.com/tomarcher/archive/2006/04/14/576548.aspx
http://hwspirit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=398


Homer J. Simpson said:
I have´t seen any tests showing the benefits of the pendrive during the
startup.

Startup?

I certainly hope that's not when a user stands to gain the most
benefit...'cuz I have two systems with BIOSes that simply *refuse* to boot
(hangs while detecting drives) if my memory stick happens to already be
hooked up when I power it up...*after* bootup...no problem...but I always
have to remember to yank it out for a restart/power up.
 
Steve Drake said:
Thats so wronge, i to was anti pen drive thing but i did some tests.

I have a very good LAPPY folllowing spec :

Memory 2GIG
Disk 100 GIG RAID 0 (100MB/s)
AMD 64 x2 4400

With USB stick, build times of my visual studio solutions, 45 Secs.
Without USB stick, build times are 100Secs.

Now thats good :D

This is sad... you need a usb drive to compile decently with vista even with 2gig of memory ?!!?!?

Is that with Rc1 ?

Stephan
 
It is with RC1

With XP, my build time with 2GIG ram was 100 Secs, with Vista it was 100
Secs, with Vista and USB Stick it went down to 45 Secs.

My colleges Desktop with better DISKS faster RAM faster CPU running 2003
Server get about 35 Second build times, so my lappy with a STICK is nearly
as good as a top end desktop.

This is not sad :)

But... i presume your thinking 2GIG of ram should provide enough caching,
the source code base is 600K lines of code, it does create 300MEG of files,
eg .CS files, DLLS, Debug files. Visual Studio is using using about 160MEG
of RAM.

Looking at disk queue stats on perf mon, i see the Queue go down when i plug
the stick in.

I would be intrested in seeing some proper tests, not just my build time
tests.

Steve
 
Hi,
my laptop has 512mb ram, and to run vista home premium 'properly' i need
1gig according to the windows vista requirements. I want to get the full
benefits of vista (like aero).
if i had a flash drive would it increase my ram to allow me to have 3d aero
etc.
i currently have a kingston data traveller 1 gb pen drive that i use for
college. i have also seen a "corsair turboFlash windows ready boost
accelerator". it comes in 512mb and 1gb, 1gb costs around £15. will these
work in the way that i want them to and is worth me buying them. thanks
www.corsair.com (search for turboflash)
 
moose said:
Hi,
my laptop has 512mb ram, and to run vista home premium 'properly' i
need
1gig according to the windows vista requirements. I want to get the
full
benefits of vista (like aero).
if i had a flash drive would it increase my ram to allow me to have
3d aero
etc.
i currently have a kingston data traveller 1 gb pen drive that i use
for
college. i have also seen a "corsair turboFlash windows ready boost
accelerator". it comes in 512mb and 1gb, 1gb costs around £15. will
these
work in the way that i want them to and is worth me buying them.
thanks
www.corsair.com (search for turboflash)

ReadyBoost is not about adding more RAM to your system by USB it is
about improving data access as the USB memory is treated like an extra
fast pagefile.
So if you need more RAM then buy it, ReadyBoost is not your answer.

--

Mike Brannigan

moose said:
Hi,
my laptop has 512mb ram, and to run vista home premium 'properly' i
need
1gig according to the windows vista requirements. I want to get the
full
benefits of vista (like aero).
if i had a flash drive would it increase my ram to allow me to have
3d aero
etc.
i currently have a kingston data traveller 1 gb pen drive that i use
for
college. i have also seen a "corsair turboFlash windows ready boost
accelerator". it comes in 512mb and 1gb, 1gb costs around £15. will
these
work in the way that i want them to and is worth me buying them.
thanks
www.corsair.com (search for turboflash)

Funkspiel said:
I like the Patriot XPorter XT 2gb.
Compatibility chart here:

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/



Chupacabra said:
news:gz5YoaDWVqBFFwgY@[127.0.0.1]...

What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?
I haven't got one at the moment - so I might as well get a good
one.
Is it as fast as RAM?

I bought a Kingston Data Traveler on sale this week at Circuit
City.
Supposed to be one of the faster drives, especially for random
access, and
it was mentioned on a site I found as being one of the few that
works with
ReadyBoost.

Vista RC1 accepted it just find and I dedicated 860MB out of 1GB
to
ReadyBoost. Not sure I can see much difference yet, but my
system has 2GB
of RAM already as well.
 
Adding a USB flash drive will not allow Aero Glass to run on a machine that
couldn't run it otherwise. It may improve your performance by moving some
code from virtual memory on your hard disk to the faster memory of the flash
drive. The general consensus of early users is that it's difficult to notice
the difference on systems with >512mb. YMMV.

As to which flash drives will work with Readyboost, I wish the manufacturers
would start posting their capability to be used or not because at this time
it's very confusing and it seems a lot more don't work than do. Buyer
beware.

moose said:
Hi,
my laptop has 512mb ram, and to run vista home premium 'properly' i need
1gig according to the windows vista requirements. I want to get the full
benefits of vista (like aero).
if i had a flash drive would it increase my ram to allow me to have 3d
aero
etc.
i currently have a kingston data traveller 1 gb pen drive that i use for
college. i have also seen a "corsair turboFlash windows ready boost
accelerator". it comes in 512mb and 1gb, 1gb costs around £15. will these
work in the way that i want them to and is worth me buying them. thanks
www.corsair.com (search for turboflash)

Funkspiel said:
I like the Patriot XPorter XT 2gb.
Compatibility chart here:

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/



Chupacabra said:
news:gz5YoaDWVqBFFwgY@[127.0.0.1]...

What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?
I haven't got one at the moment - so I might as well get a good one.
Is it as fast as RAM?

I bought a Kingston Data Traveler on sale this week at Circuit City.
Supposed to be one of the faster drives, especially for random access,
and
it was mentioned on a site I found as being one of the few that works
with
ReadyBoost.

Vista RC1 accepted it just find and I dedicated 860MB out of 1GB to
ReadyBoost. Not sure I can see much difference yet, but my system has
2GB
of RAM already as well.
 
As the others have said, you need to add memory to your laptop.
Minimum requirements posted by Microsoft and real world requirements
have always been different. In the real world, Vista needs1GB of memory,
2 GB or more for the best performance.

As far as ReadyBoost - MS has published minimum requirements.
Not all flash drives meet these requirements. I think now with Vista released
to the general public, you will start seeing Vista Ready flash drives.

In the meantime - check out this info. Scroll down to
"Rules for ReadyBoost Drives"

http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/winvistafaq.htm



moose said:
Hi,
my laptop has 512mb ram, and to run vista home premium 'properly' i need
1gig according to the windows vista requirements. I want to get the full
benefits of vista (like aero).
if i had a flash drive would it increase my ram to allow me to have 3d aero
etc.
i currently have a kingston data traveller 1 gb pen drive that i use for
college. i have also seen a "corsair turboFlash windows ready boost
accelerator". it comes in 512mb and 1gb, 1gb costs around £15. will these
work in the way that i want them to and is worth me buying them. thanks
www.corsair.com (search for turboflash)

Funkspiel said:
I like the Patriot XPorter XT 2gb.
Compatibility chart here:

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/



Chupacabra said:
news:gz5YoaDWVqBFFwgY@[127.0.0.1]...

What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?
I haven't got one at the moment - so I might as well get a good one.
Is it as fast as RAM?

I bought a Kingston Data Traveler on sale this week at Circuit City.
Supposed to be one of the faster drives, especially for random access, and
it was mentioned on a site I found as being one of the few that works with
ReadyBoost.

Vista RC1 accepted it just find and I dedicated 860MB out of 1GB to
ReadyBoost. Not sure I can see much difference yet, but my system has 2GB
of RAM already as well.
 
A USB drive does NOT supplement RAM. Think of it a a faster pagefile.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



moose said:
Hi,
my laptop has 512mb ram, and to run vista home premium 'properly' i need
1gig according to the windows vista requirements. I want to get the full
benefits of vista (like aero).
if i had a flash drive would it increase my ram to allow me to have 3d
aero
etc.
i currently have a kingston data traveller 1 gb pen drive that i use for
college. i have also seen a "corsair turboFlash windows ready boost
accelerator". it comes in 512mb and 1gb, 1gb costs around £15. will these
work in the way that i want them to and is worth me buying them. thanks
www.corsair.com (search for turboflash)

Funkspiel said:
I like the Patriot XPorter XT 2gb.
Compatibility chart here:

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/



Chupacabra said:
news:gz5YoaDWVqBFFwgY@[127.0.0.1]...

What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?
I haven't got one at the moment - so I might as well get a good one.
Is it as fast as RAM?

I bought a Kingston Data Traveler on sale this week at Circuit City.
Supposed to be one of the faster drives, especially for random access,
and
it was mentioned on a site I found as being one of the few that works
with
ReadyBoost.

Vista RC1 accepted it just find and I dedicated 860MB out of 1GB to
ReadyBoost. Not sure I can see much difference yet, but my system has
2GB
of RAM already as well.
 
http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1472

I know they are not supposed to be available until 3/07 but I got one
yesterday (2GB) in the MS "goody bag" at the Vista launch in NYC and it
works like a dream,


JP said:
As the others have said, you need to add memory to your laptop.
Minimum requirements posted by Microsoft and real world requirements
have always been different. In the real world, Vista needs1GB of memory,
2 GB or more for the best performance.

As far as ReadyBoost - MS has published minimum requirements.
Not all flash drives meet these requirements. I think now with Vista
released
to the general public, you will start seeing Vista Ready flash drives.

In the meantime - check out this info. Scroll down to
"Rules for ReadyBoost Drives"

http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/winvistafaq.htm



moose said:
Hi,
my laptop has 512mb ram, and to run vista home premium 'properly' i need
1gig according to the windows vista requirements. I want to get the full
benefits of vista (like aero).
if i had a flash drive would it increase my ram to allow me to have 3d
aero
etc.
i currently have a kingston data traveller 1 gb pen drive that i use for
college. i have also seen a "corsair turboFlash windows ready boost
accelerator". it comes in 512mb and 1gb, 1gb costs around £15. will
these
work in the way that i want them to and is worth me buying them. thanks
www.corsair.com (search for turboflash)

Funkspiel said:
I like the Patriot XPorter XT 2gb.
Compatibility chart here:

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/



:


news:gz5YoaDWVqBFFwgY@[127.0.0.1]...

What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?
I haven't got one at the moment - so I might as well get a good one.
Is it as fast as RAM?

I bought a Kingston Data Traveler on sale this week at Circuit City.
Supposed to be one of the faster drives, especially for random access,
and
it was mentioned on a site I found as being one of the few that works
with
ReadyBoost.

Vista RC1 accepted it just find and I dedicated 860MB out of 1GB to
ReadyBoost. Not sure I can see much difference yet, but my system has
2GB
of RAM already as well.
 
Has anyone been able to prove that they actually do ANYTHING?

Mike said:
http://www.sandisk.com/Retail/Default.aspx?CatID=1472

I know they are not supposed to be available until 3/07 but I got one
yesterday (2GB) in the MS "goody bag" at the Vista launch in NYC and it
works like a dream,


JP said:
As the others have said, you need to add memory to your laptop.
Minimum requirements posted by Microsoft and real world requirements
have always been different. In the real world, Vista needs1GB of memory,
2 GB or more for the best performance.

As far as ReadyBoost - MS has published minimum requirements.
Not all flash drives meet these requirements. I think now with Vista
released
to the general public, you will start seeing Vista Ready flash drives.

In the meantime - check out this info. Scroll down to
"Rules for ReadyBoost Drives"

http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/winvistafaq.htm



moose said:
Hi,
my laptop has 512mb ram, and to run vista home premium 'properly' i need
1gig according to the windows vista requirements. I want to get the
full
benefits of vista (like aero).
if i had a flash drive would it increase my ram to allow me to have 3d
aero
etc.
i currently have a kingston data traveller 1 gb pen drive that i use for
college. i have also seen a "corsair turboFlash windows ready boost
accelerator". it comes in 512mb and 1gb, 1gb costs around £15. will
these
work in the way that i want them to and is worth me buying them. thanks
www.corsair.com (search for turboflash)

:

I like the Patriot XPorter XT 2gb.
Compatibility chart here:

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/



:


news:gz5YoaDWVqBFFwgY@[127.0.0.1]...

What's the best usb memory stick to augment RAM?
I haven't got one at the moment - so I might as well get a good
one.
Is it as fast as RAM?

I bought a Kingston Data Traveler on sale this week at Circuit City.
Supposed to be one of the faster drives, especially for random
access, and
it was mentioned on a site I found as being one of the few that works
with
ReadyBoost.

Vista RC1 accepted it just find and I dedicated 860MB out of 1GB to
ReadyBoost. Not sure I can see much difference yet, but my system
has 2GB
of RAM already as well.
 
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