What would be your choice for a new build? AMD or Intel???

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Hello everyone,

My choices are: Both Asus boards :)

I would like to build one of the below systems. I am just currious as to
what would be a preffered (better) choice. I am a gamer, but also work with
my PC. What would you guy's and gals out there build? I've heard that the
AMD's are the better of the two for a gaming machine. And Intel has more
"horse power) and is just as good as the AMD for gaming. What are the facts
or the in's and out's of the two. I have done extensive research but I am
still undecided.

Hardware to be used with one of the systems:
1- BFG 6800 GT AGP 256 MB DDR3 (currently am using this Video card)
2- 2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA HDD used as RAID for OS, Games &
Programs (have to buy)
3- 2x Western Digital 250GB EIDE used as RAID for storage.
4- 1GB (2x 512) DDR Crucial memory used as Dual Channel
5- Pioneer DVR-109 used for DVD/storage burning
6- Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive, model SDM1912-TA (em for reading my media)

1- Asus A8V Deluxe ( )~ Both of the below CPU's have the Winchester core
a- AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
Retail $190.00
b- AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
OEM $319.00

2- Asus P4C800-E Deluxe ( ) ~ Both of the below CPU's have the Prescott core
a- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
Technology - Retail $215.00
b- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.4E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
Technology - Retail $297.99

Any input you folks might have, would be great to hear (emm read)

Thank you in advance

Richard
 
I agree with Richard.
Asus has a link on their web site that states that all P5 boards are EMT64
ready and has a set of web pages detailing the boards, benefits etc. Having
said that, I would still get the AMD as P4 is EOL.
 
Richard said:
Hello everyone,

My choices are: Both Asus boards :)

I would like to build one of the below systems. I am just currious as to
what would be a preffered (better) choice. I am a gamer, but also work with
my PC. What would you guy's and gals out there build? I've heard that the
AMD's are the better of the two for a gaming machine. And Intel has more
"horse power) and is just as good as the AMD for gaming. What are the facts
or the in's and out's of the two. I have done extensive research but I am
still undecided.

Hardware to be used with one of the systems:
1- BFG 6800 GT AGP 256 MB DDR3 (currently am using this Video card)
2- 2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA HDD used as RAID for OS, Games &
Programs (have to buy)
3- 2x Western Digital 250GB EIDE used as RAID for storage.
4- 1GB (2x 512) DDR Crucial memory used as Dual Channel
5- Pioneer DVR-109 used for DVD/storage burning
6- Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive, model SDM1912-TA (em for reading my media)

1- Asus A8V Deluxe ( )~ Both of the below CPU's have the Winchester core
a- AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
Retail $190.00
b- AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
OEM $319.00

2- Asus P4C800-E Deluxe ( ) ~ Both of the below CPU's have the Prescott core
a- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
Technology - Retail $215.00
b- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.4E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
Technology - Retail $297.99

Any input you folks might have, would be great to hear (emm read)

Thank you in advance

Richard
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I'd get the AMD system, but with nVidia nForce4 chipset (A8N SLI
Deluxe). Ordered mine yesterday. I decided to go with the MSI (Neo4
Diamond) over the Asus board due to the SB Live! and better overclocking
ability.

What sort of RAID do you want? Mirrored, right?

Anyway, the combination of Raptor and 250GB WD does me a treat. (shame
I only have the 36GB and not in pairs, but I'm not jealous. much)

With that many drives, it might be worth considering the options for
SATA - the A8V has 2 native and 2 additional SATA, so you'll expend them
in no time. I'm not sure if the Promise controller sits on a PCI, PCIe
or other bus, but perhaps it might limit performance. The nForce4 has 4
native SATA connections and perform extremely well. Just something to
think about, as the disk subsystem is obviously your thing.

In terms of CPU "horse power" it's difficult to say. The P4 has a very
long pipeline which is great for highly predictable loops, such as video
encoding, but when you mispredict a branch, and have to empty the
pipeline which is expensive. So it depends what you're doing.

Given the power requirements are about half on the AMD (MUCH cooler) and
that the AMD is generally better for gaming, I decided to go AMD.

I also like the idea of being able to throw a dual core chip in the
socket 939 in a few months. :D

Either way it will be a very nice build.

Make you get a beefy PSU for all that. (I've ordered an Enermax 480W
Coolergiant)

Oh, and also you'll need decent ventilation in your case - especially if
you go with the P4.

Ben
 
AMD definitely, clock for clock they are far faster than intel chips, with a
2.2 Ghz AMD processor able to do the work of a 3.2 Ghz Intel, and the high
end AMD Athlon 64's are closing in on the 3 Ghz mark, so should perform as
well as 4.5 and 5 Ghz P4s
 
Richard said:
Hello everyone,

My choices are: Both Asus boards :)

I would like to build one of the below systems. I am just currious as to
what would be a preffered (better) choice. I am a gamer, but also work with
my PC. What would you guy's and gals out there build? I've heard that the
AMD's are the better of the two for a gaming machine. And Intel has more
"horse power) and is just as good as the AMD for gaming. What are the facts
or the in's and out's of the two. I have done extensive research but I am
still undecided.

Hardware to be used with one of the systems:
1- BFG 6800 GT AGP 256 MB DDR3 (currently am using this Video card)
2- 2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB SATA HDD used as RAID for OS, Games &
Programs (have to buy)
3- 2x Western Digital 250GB EIDE used as RAID for storage.
4- 1GB (2x 512) DDR Crucial memory used as Dual Channel
5- Pioneer DVR-109 used for DVD/storage burning
6- Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM Drive, model SDM1912-TA (em for reading my media)

1- Asus A8V Deluxe ( )~ Both of the below CPU's have the Winchester core
a- AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
Retail $190.00
b- AMD Athlon 64 3500+, 512KB L2 Cache, Socket 939 64-bit Processor -
OEM $319.00

2- Asus P4C800-E Deluxe ( ) ~ Both of the below CPU's have the Prescott core
a- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.2E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
Technology - Retail $215.00
b- Intel Pentium 4/ 3.4E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading
Technology - Retail $297.99

Any input you folks might have, would be great to hear (emm read)

Thank you in advance

Richard
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AMD is the undisputed champion for gaming, dollar for dollar, mhz for
mhz.
This is a no brainer.
 
Was running a 2.4XP mobile oc close to 2.8-3ghz p-rating, then put
together a prescott celery 2.4 D core few weeks ago. P4P800E-Del, of
course. Those D rev. really crank - 3510 core for 50% oc. FSB only w/
2 512 3200 modules. Monster heat sink and it'll hits 131F doing 1/3
realtime vid mpeg encodes with CCE. 80F room / 100F case / 110F CPU at
ambients. Heats up the room and performs very nice quality vid renders
with fewer errors. Haven't had an intel since I got pissed at them
about keeping 386 prices inflated for so long. $70 for the 2.4 celery
D, and $60 for a returned P4P800E-Del - killer MB. CPU is less
responsive to multiple apps (than if had more 512/1m/2m cache and/or
HT), but for a simple balls-to-the-wall, 3.5ghz vid encode, I'm
suitably impressed.

FlashMan

p4p800e-d, geil/muskin 3200 512s, radeon 8500 275/275 > 2- 19" LCD/CRT,
PATA 2- 160s > sil pci .not.raid, 1- 120, 1- 200, SATA 1- 200, 2-
nec3520, p108d, 1- liteon reader, 1 promise ata cntrl, and a piece of
crap leadtek pci capture board.
AMD is the undisputed champion for gaming, dollar for dollar, mhz for
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mhz. This is a no brainer.
 
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