The only newsgroup alias I've know to connect via OE's NNTP reader is the
one Micheal named, msnews.microsoft.com and it's name is reflected if you
click Tools>Accounts> (where you would configure it) for either Outlook
Express in Windows OS's up through XP SP2 or where it would be configured
in Windows Mail through Vista Build 5536 or any daily builds Michael or
the Softies are using.
If you're trying to configure OE for newsgroups then all you have to do is
google OE newsgroups. Win Mail is a one click configure.
One good Windows Mail feature is that if you click Microsoft Help Groups
it automatically downloads newsgroups which hopefully will result in many
more people now reaching one of the best and most underused Microsoft
teaching modalities--the newsgroups or what used to be usenet. If you're
using Vista, you can configure Windows Mail
I know there are many other NNTP readers, and many people who are regulars
on the groups have their own favorites whose features they like better
than the OE/Win Mail NNTP. The MSFT communities have web access but it is
pathetic, slow, poorly featured and managed by the most incompetent who
draw a MSFT paycheck or who are orange badge contractors. Orange badges
can be great workers who are sometimes screwed out of benefits or
equilibirum on the MSFT campus, or they can be incompetent and worthless
which they are in the positions that tend the MSFT html based newsgroups.
www.organgebadge.com
When they have a glitch, the people assinged by MSFT to the communities
are too lazy to correct it for months or even years, (the glitch where
people on the web interface post the same message multiple times and have
for months would server as exhibit "A" which raises the question of what
if anything they do for their paychecks. It's a far cry from Lili Cheng
(the architecht with MSFT research with her team on loan to Vista for who
knows what and also
The MSFT MVPs for OE lobbied hard for many features and got few of them
because basically OE and Win Mail are a bastard step child that doesn't
generate any profit at MSFT--and the fact that they are teaching vehicles
means nothing to MSFT. They also do a great job of support on the
newsgroups with OE/Win Mail , on their own sites, and of explaining and
teaching MSFT software outside OE/Win Mail. But Outlook is the cash cow
that gives the milk on the planet not OE and Outlook gets the
attention--MSFT cares little about Win Mail or OE, and has added little in
the way of features for it over the year. These gaps have been filled by
3rd parties and MVPs with their backups and other nifty utilities.
CH
Rob Wilkens said:
Odd, I have to connect to this news server at news.microsoft.com ..
Connecting to msnews.microsoft.com gives me a server not found message.
-Rob
<DIV>"MICHAEL" <
[email protected]> wrote in message
The only other Microsoft server I am aware of is
"betanews.microsoft.com". But you have to have an
ID and password for that.
-Michael
I'd be cry-babying that if three is an ISO image of the new beta, there
doesn't appear to be ISO-burning software that works with Windows
Vista, and as a result I'm required (like last time) to BOOT INTO LINUX
and use Gnome's built in CD Burner (I simply locate the Windows Vista
ISO file in Linux, right click on it, and select 'burn to disk' and it
does it). Why the heck doesn't windows (or does it and I'm missing it)
include built in DVD/CD ISO file burning?
I'm not a TBT (Technical Beta Tester, I presume), though I was a TBT of
MSN Back in 1998 and received free copies of Windows 98 as a result of
my beta testing (and all sorts of other little goodies: T-Shirts, a
Koozie, etc.). I just discovered these msg boards (though, yes, I used
the same news-server
back then for beta testing, I just forgot they
were there).
By the way, someone should tell MS: re: Windows Live Mail beta that by
default the Micrsoft news server is set up as 'msnews.microsoft.com'
which is unavailable and it should be 'news.microsoft.com' (I had to
manually change that).
-Rob
<DIV>"Chad Harris" <[email protected]>
wrote in message 1)
As Darrell Gorter of the MSFT Vista Setup Team pointed out, one can
call
to register this build. Call them for assistance.
2) At this moment a large percentage of 26,000 TBTs or Beta testers
are
downloading this build or more accurately many or cry babying that
they
can't get it fast enough to suit their gratification driven psyches.
Many
of them will not lift a finger to do meaningful bug testing or any
type of
feedback, participate in the Beta Live Meetings and chats. Only a
fraction
of them will averaging from 100-200 so you can do the math by putting
those
numbers over 26000. It comes to approximately 0.00384615% or twice
that
amount for the larger number. Very shortly after this, you will also
have
an opportunity to re-enter the program and obtain Build 5536 or close
and a
PK. But I would encourage you in the meantime to call them now and
obtain a
key. The number appropriate to your area is at the bottom of
http://support.microsoft.com
I hope you are able to obtain it today and to begin to enjoy the
interesting dynamics that have gone into the way the Vista Beta has
comported itself.
Enjoy,
CH
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