What format to use to record movies

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finally got my scheduler to work and recorded a movie from satellite
The scheduler during setup gives you 4 choices dvd, quarter vga, avi
and video cd. The avi format says i could record for 22 hrs and 27
mins on my hard drive while the dvd format says I could record for 18
hrs. 27 mins which makes me think the dvd format would be best. i
then burn. i tried the avi format and then converted to dvd but the
movie doesn't play very sharp on my tv after converting to dvd so I
wonder if anyone could tell me the proper setting, burning is not a
problem, lots of expierience in that area...thanks in advance
 
tree said:
finally got my scheduler to work and recorded a movie from satellite
The scheduler during setup gives you 4 choices dvd, quarter vga, avi
and video cd. The avi format says i could record for 22 hrs and 27
mins on my hard drive while the dvd format says I could record for 18
hrs. 27 mins which makes me think the dvd format would be best. i
then burn. i tried the avi format and then converted to dvd but the
movie doesn't play very sharp on my tv after converting to dvd so I
wonder if anyone could tell me the proper setting, burning is not a
problem, lots of expierience in that area...thanks in advance
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If your goal is to record something for burning to DVD for later playback, I
would record to DVD format. It simplifies the process by skipping
unnecessary steps and, perhaps more importantly, avoids re-encoding the
video (each re-encoding of video diminishes its quality)

Alex
 
tree said:
finally got my scheduler to work and recorded a movie from satellite
The scheduler during setup gives you 4 choices dvd, quarter vga, avi
and video cd. The avi format says i could record for 22 hrs and 27
mins on my hard drive while the dvd format says I could record for 18
hrs. 27 mins which makes me think the dvd format would be best. i
then burn. i tried the avi format and then converted to dvd but the
movie doesn't play very sharp on my tv after converting to dvd so I
wonder if anyone could tell me the proper setting, burning is not a
problem, lots of expierience in that area...thanks in advance
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You don't mention what resolution your using. AVI(except MPG4) is
uncompressed. If the AVI is showing more time than the DVD(MPG2) which is
compressed it must be a lower resolution.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/capture/intro.htm
http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/capture/understandsource.htm
 
T said:
You don't mention what resolution your using. AVI(except MPG4) is
uncompressed. If the AVI is showing more time than the DVD(MPG2) which is
compressed it must be a lower resolution.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/capture/intro.htm
http://www.digitalfaq.com/dvdguides/capture/understandsource.htm
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Am I missing your point? An AVI file could contain video compressed
with DivX and others, surely. And a 20GB file running 1hr 50, let's
say, is still 1hr 50 to a DVD authoring suite.

A likely reason for the OP getting a non-sharp DVD from his AVI is that
the AVI capture was using too small a frame, e.g 1/2 DVD, which is
absolutely nothing to do with the compression used to write the AVI
file. I am in the UK and work in PAL, which requires (in essence) a
720x576 frame. If I make a source video in that size, at high bit rates,
Nero (for example) will happily re-render that to burn a super looking
DVD. Hell, even a good quality (1.5 or 2.1 mbps) WMA file will convert
to a very good DVD, if it is 720x576. If you have a nice video source
in 720x576 with 48khz sound, you are likely to be happy with the results
on DVD. Problems result when a certain authoring package can't read
your WMA or DivX file. That's another issue. I use some Nero stuff and
get on great.

However I'm talking of conversions, but I see no point at all in him not
recording TV from his AIW in DVD format directly. Saves all that time.
If he doesn't use the DVD setting, he needs to see if he can configure
the dimensions of the image and set a decent level of quality (bit rate).



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Ian said:
Am I missing your point? An AVI file could contain video compressed
with DivX and others, surely. And a 20GB file running 1hr 50, let's
say, is still 1hr 50 to a DVD authoring suite.

A likely reason for the OP getting a non-sharp DVD from his AVI is
that the AVI capture was using too small a frame, e.g 1/2 DVD, which
is absolutely nothing to do with the compression used to write the AVI
file. I am in the UK and work in PAL, which requires (in essence) a
720x576 frame. If I make a source video in that size, at high bit
rates, Nero (for example) will happily re-render that to burn a super
looking DVD. Hell, even a good quality (1.5 or 2.1 mbps) WMA file will
convert to a very good DVD, if it is 720x576. If you have a nice
video source in 720x576 with 48khz sound, you are likely to be happy
with the results on DVD. Problems result when a certain authoring
package can't read your WMA or DivX file. That's another issue. I use
some Nero stuff and get on great.

However I'm talking of conversions, but I see no point at all in him
not recording TV from his AIW in DVD format directly. Saves all that
time. If he doesn't use the DVD setting, he needs to see if he can
configure the dimensions of the image and set a decent level of
quality (bit rate).
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When I said WMA, I intended to say WMV! You probably guessed that. Ian.


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Ian O said:
When I said WMA, I intended to say WMV! You probably guessed that. Ian.
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Tried keeping the post short so it couldn't be misinterpreted. Appears I
failed. AFAIK DivX falls under MPG4. Notice the "(except MPG4)". I'm
assuming the OP is using the ATI presets. Not on that computer now but IIRC
MPG4 is under the Home Theater preset, not AVI. Low resolution would
account for the poor PQ.
I agree his source would probably best go directly to MPG2 if he wants DVD
compatibility. Naturally the tools the OP and desired final product could
change this. These considerations are covered in the links I provided in
much more detail than I care to type.
 
both formats mpg and avi looked good playing on my lcd monitor but as
mentioned the avi burned with poor results. when i switched to DVd
mode it downloaded again very nice to play on lcd monitor but I am
unable to burn it. What software do you recomend to convert the mpg to
dvd.
 
Which AIW Are You Using. I Use ATI 9800Pro To Capture MGEG-2 Files Off
My Big Dish And Burn To DvD, Works Great. I Use The Default Setting
And Change The Bit Rate. For A 1.5 Hour Movie I Use 6.75 Mbits/s,
Which Gives Me About A 4Gig MPEG-2 File I Have Watched A Movie And
Played A DvD Of The Same I Recorded And I Can Not See A Difference.

goldy
 
I have a AIW 9800 xt, I set it to dvd high and now i can burn to dvd
with vso converxtodvd. It took about an hour to convert the mpeg2 and
then was able to burn but it wasn't near as good as satellite
viewing. Not sure what you mean by 6.75 mbitss in default as i went
there in video recorder and can't see that setting.
 
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