WFS fails to start

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Tom

Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).

Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I don't see
the application in my task list or on the screen.

Any suggestions on how to get it working?

T
 
You must have some information. Error messages? Event viewer? Changes you
made to your system since the last time it worked? How you configured your
WFS account?
 
Hi, Russ,

That's what's weird - there's NO visual indication that it started, failed,
or anything.

I'm not too good with the event viewer, but just looked and didn't find any
thing..

I just used the SysInternals Process Monitor, filtered by WFS and got a
collection of log entries. Nothing jumps out at me. I can see the process
doing lots of stuff, and terminating.

I've put the log in both pml format and csv for at
www.campparadox.com/log/log.htm

Maybe you can spot something?

To many changes have been made since it last worked to be of any value.

But, how does one configure a WFS account? I just want to scan. (Is it
possible that installing the HP PSC 1510 All-in-One software screwed things
up?)

Thanks!!


Russ Valentine said:
You must have some information. Error messages? Event viewer? Changes you
made to your system since the last time it worked? How you configured your
WFS account?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Tom said:
Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).

Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I don't
see the application in my task list or on the screen.

Any suggestions on how to get it working?

T
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Of course. All-in-ones are not intended for use with WFS and will readily
interfere.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Tom said:
Hi, Russ,

That's what's weird - there's NO visual indication that it started,
failed, or anything.

I'm not too good with the event viewer, but just looked and didn't find
any thing..

I just used the SysInternals Process Monitor, filtered by WFS and got a
collection of log entries. Nothing jumps out at me. I can see the process
doing lots of stuff, and terminating.

I've put the log in both pml format and csv for at
www.campparadox.com/log/log.htm

Maybe you can spot something?

To many changes have been made since it last worked to be of any value.

But, how does one configure a WFS account? I just want to scan. (Is it
possible that installing the HP PSC 1510 All-in-One software screwed
things up?)

Thanks!!


Russ Valentine said:
You must have some information. Error messages? Event viewer? Changes you
made to your system since the last time it worked? How you configured
your WFS account?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Tom said:
Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).

Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I don't
see the application in my task list or on the screen.

Any suggestions on how to get it working?

T
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Yup, I hate the HP All-in-one software anyway. As I recall, I installed it
because I needed to scan and WFS wouldn't work.

So what's your suggestion to get WFS working. Will uninstalling the
All-in-one software be sufficient, or is the uninstall not sufficient. Any
suggestions?
 
Russ

I will have to disagree with you on this one.
I use an Epson CX3900 AIO and have absolutely NO
troubles with Printing, Scanning, Copying or Faxing.
Absolutely NO problems (including fax from scanner)
using WFS from the day I installed it.
<T> Doesn't the software for the HP printer/scanner have
a seperate 'scanner' only shortcut on the desktop like Epson does ?

--
regards
CL
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Russ Valentine said:
Of course. All-in-ones are not intended for use with WFS and will readily
interfere.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Tom said:
Hi, Russ,

That's what's weird - there's NO visual indication that it started,
failed, or anything.

I'm not too good with the event viewer, but just looked and didn't find
any thing..

I just used the SysInternals Process Monitor, filtered by WFS and got a
collection of log entries. Nothing jumps out at me. I can see the process
doing lots of stuff, and terminating.

I've put the log in both pml format and csv for at
www.campparadox.com/log/log.htm

Maybe you can spot something?

To many changes have been made since it last worked to be of any value.

But, how does one configure a WFS account? I just want to scan. (Is it
possible that installing the HP PSC 1510 All-in-One software screwed
things up?)

Thanks!!


Russ Valentine said:
You must have some information. Error messages? Event viewer? Changes you
made to your system since the last time it worked? How you configured
your WFS account?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).

Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I don't
see the application in my task list or on the screen.

Any suggestions on how to get it working?

T
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There are exceptions to every rule. The fact remains that WFS was not
developed to support AIO's and usually doesn't. It is intended for use with
standalone scanners and analog fax modems.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
LoneWolf said:
Russ

I will have to disagree with you on this one.
I use an Epson CX3900 AIO and have absolutely NO
troubles with Printing, Scanning, Copying or Faxing.
Absolutely NO problems (including fax from scanner)
using WFS from the day I installed it.
<T> Doesn't the software for the HP printer/scanner have
a seperate 'scanner' only shortcut on the desktop like Epson does ?

--
regards
CL
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::


Russ Valentine said:
Of course. All-in-ones are not intended for use with WFS and will readily
interfere.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Tom said:
Hi, Russ,

That's what's weird - there's NO visual indication that it started,
failed, or anything.

I'm not too good with the event viewer, but just looked and didn't find
any thing..

I just used the SysInternals Process Monitor, filtered by WFS and got a
collection of log entries. Nothing jumps out at me. I can see the
process
doing lots of stuff, and terminating.

I've put the log in both pml format and csv for at
www.campparadox.com/log/log.htm

Maybe you can spot something?

To many changes have been made since it last worked to be of any value.

But, how does one configure a WFS account? I just want to scan. (Is
it
possible that installing the HP PSC 1510 All-in-One software screwed
things up?)

Thanks!!


You must have some information. Error messages? Event viewer? Changes
you
made to your system since the last time it worked? How you configured
your WFS account?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Until several months ago, I was able to scan in Vista Ultimate (SP1).

Recently, however, when I start WFS.exe, nothing happens at all. I
don't
see the application in my task list or on the screen.

Any suggestions on how to get it working?

T
Click to expand...
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Depends on what other options you have. WFS was developed to interface with
standalone scanners and analog fax modems.
 
I just uninstalled the HP All-in-one software (good riddance!) but WFS still
won't start.

I'm pretty sure that at one time WFS worked with the HP scanner, but that
doesn't matter to em.

Any further suggestions, Russ, on getting WFS to start?

Also, in your experience, is it possible to use an HP all-in-one in Vista
without the HP all-in-one software? Would that require a 3rd party app, or
is it not possible?
 
No. WFS was designed to work only with analog fax modems and standalone
scanners that meet certain specifications and are on the VHCL. There was
consideration given to supporting AIO devices, but the developers were never
able to accomplish that. There are anecdotal reports of users who have been
able to get WFS to use their AIO devices, but there is no documentation or
support for doing so from either Microsoft or the third party manufacturers.
 
So, are there standalone scanner programs that aren't the hogs of the AIO
software but that would work with AIO device on Vista? Any specific
suggestions to check out?

Russ Valentine said:
No. WFS was designed to work only with analog fax modems and standalone
scanners that meet certain specifications and are on the VHCL. There was
consideration given to supporting AIO devices, but the developers were
never able to accomplish that. There are anecdotal reports of users who
have been able to get WFS to use their AIO devices, but there is no
documentation or support for doing so from either Microsoft or the third
party manufacturers.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Tom said:
I just uninstalled the HP All-in-one software (good riddance!) but WFS
still won't start.

I'm pretty sure that at one time WFS worked with the HP scanner, but that
doesn't matter to em.

Any further suggestions, Russ, on getting WFS to start?

Also, in your experience, is it possible to use an HP all-in-one in Vista
without the HP all-in-one software? Would that require a 3rd party app,
or is it not possible?
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My day job leaves me no time to play with and evaluate whatever third party
options are out there. I figured that if it was too big a job for the
developers, it is most certainly too big a job for me. I consider it a
triumph when I can get my VHCL approved analog fax modem and VHCL approved
scanner to work with WFS. I strive for nothing more.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Tom said:
So, are there standalone scanner programs that aren't the hogs of the AIO
software but that would work with AIO device on Vista? Any specific
suggestions to check out?

Russ Valentine said:
No. WFS was designed to work only with analog fax modems and standalone
scanners that meet certain specifications and are on the VHCL. There was
consideration given to supporting AIO devices, but the developers were
never able to accomplish that. There are anecdotal reports of users who
have been able to get WFS to use their AIO devices, but there is no
documentation or support for doing so from either Microsoft or the third
party manufacturers.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Tom said:
I just uninstalled the HP All-in-one software (good riddance!) but WFS
still won't start.

I'm pretty sure that at one time WFS worked with the HP scanner, but
that doesn't matter to em.

Any further suggestions, Russ, on getting WFS to start?

Also, in your experience, is it possible to use an HP all-in-one in
Vista without the HP all-in-one software? Would that require a 3rd party
app, or is it not possible?

Depends on what other options you have. WFS was developed to interface
with standalone scanners and analog fax modems.
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Thanks, Russ.

For anyone else looking for a scanning solution on Vista of All-in-One
scanners (which apparently aren't supported by Vista's WFS), I just
downloaded and installed a program named VueScan that works fine with my HP
All-in-One.

Tom
 
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