Went to use square and non square pixels

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Mike

Here is my understanding, If I want to distribute my movie
via VHS i should use nonquare pixels....and if I want to
distribute via computer/web I should use square pixels. Is
this right? Can anyone point me to a link that will
explain the difference between the two?
 
Hi there,

Movie Maker two does not give the option of Square or Non Square pixels as the
more advanced program do (Like MovieDV 6 from AIST) I have to admit that having
tinkered with those options and observing the results on a TV monitor as well
as a computer screen, I could not see any difference, but I am blind as a bat
anyway.

There has to be a difference as a lot of clever people made the options
available...I suppose the best thing to do is compile it in both forms and
watch the two on the TV.
 
John, I created some profiles in Windows Media Profile
Creator,(then imported them into Moviemaker) and there is
an option theat allows nonsquare output. I have watch both
a square and non square video clip on a TV and I also
don't notice a difference....strange
-----Original Message-----
Hi there,

Movie Maker two does not give the option of Square or Non Square pixels as the
more advanced program do (Like MovieDV 6 from
Click to expand...
AIST) I have to admit that having
tinkered with those options and observing the
Click to expand...
results on a TV monitor as well
as a computer screen, I could not see any
Click to expand...
difference, but I am blind as a bat
 
Hi there,

Yes sorry I did not realise you had created an extra profile.

I use some pretty fancy software that gives it as an up-front option. I first
thought it was how you achieved a widescreen output...but its not, at least in
my other software (MovieDV 6 see my website for a link. It comes complete with
effects compilers and does just about everything that the Adobe products do,
but costs one hell of a lot less) I wonder whether it has anything to do with
non-standard TV sets that may have one been used to emulate widescreen.

As I could see no difference and because I do not use it I have never bothered
to track down its proper use. J7ust checked the always never quite so good help
file and this is what it says....

"Pixel Aspect
The aspect ratio of the pixels, which are displayed in the Canvas, can be
altered. If you are working with a DV camera, you may get a distorted image
(eggheads) in the Canvas if you use the setting Square Pixels. Select the format
of your camera (i.e. D1/DV PAL).
There is a predefined setting for widescreen (Widescreen 16:9). With the setting
Custom, you can select the aspect ratio of the pixels you require."

You have to remember that this help system is a conversion from German, but its
not much use anyway
 
Thanks for the help John.....I'll keep on testing and
searching....

-----Original Message-----
Hi there,

Yes sorry I did not realise you had created an extra profile.

I use some pretty fancy software that gives it as an up-front option. I first
thought it was how you achieved a widescreen
Click to expand...
output...but its not, at least in
my other software (MovieDV 6 see my website for a link. It comes complete with
effects compilers and does just about everything that the Adobe products do,
but costs one hell of a lot less) I wonder whether it has anything to do with
non-standard TV sets that may have one been used to emulate widescreen.

As I could see no difference and because I do not use it I have never bothered
to track down its proper use. J7ust checked the
Click to expand...
always never quite so good help
file and this is what it says....

"Pixel Aspect
The aspect ratio of the pixels, which are displayed in the Canvas, can be
altered. If you are working with a DV camera, you may get a distorted image
(eggheads) in the Canvas if you use the setting Square Pixels. Select the format
of your camera (i.e. D1/DV PAL).
There is a predefined setting for widescreen (Widescreen 16:9). With the setting
Custom, you can select the aspect ratio of the pixels you require."

You have to remember that this help system is a
Click to expand...
conversion from German, but its
 
Hi there,

Youre welcome.

If you happen to come across a definition for non-square pixels I would like to
hear it.
 
Hi Jake,

Long time no speak !!

Thanks for the info, I will be taking a good look (would you believe I just
wrote Luck...A SAGA day over here)
 
Hi John

ISTR you saying something about being away. Anyway, welcome back!

The author of that piece is a chap called Jukka Aho, who's a regular poster
in uk.rec.video.digital. It contains links to other interesting technical
stuff too.

Cheers

Jake
 
Hi Jake,

Yes started a long trek that was supposed to end in Virginia USA (Home of our
youngest) But instead ended up in a Hospital somewhere near Croydon, Kent (Home
of oldest Son) Thank God for travel Insurance !!!!

When I get to it I will put a link to Jukka Aho's site on mine. Its all good
stuff.
 
Sorry to hear the bad news about the travel plans.

I recommend subsribing to uk.rec.video.digital if you haven't done so
already. A mine of useful information, but a word of caution: don your
flameproof suit - it can get heated in there from time to time! (well, daily
actually). I subscribe to there and here and check both frequently. MM2
questions are sometimes posted there, and I'm sure you'd be able to help out
with those.

BTW, bottom posting there is the norm as opposed to top posting here.

Jake
 
Hi Jake,

I use software called News Rover. A large part of it is exactly the same
functionality as Outlook. But it has two MAJOR advantages.

1) It polls automatically for news updates as well as e-mail
2) It allows you to create an Interest group.

An interest group is defined as a collection of news groups whose contents are
either wholly included in the interest group or by using boolean search
algorithm selects which messages to include in the Interest group. And it is
not limited to searching just one news server...for example I collect Movie
maker news from two separate sources meaning that I get to see messages that
have not yet reached MIcrosoft from Europe and I get messages originating at
Microsoft before they reach the UK servers

So I have several newsgroups to do with video DVD PhotoShop and of course Movie
Maker all appearing in what looks like just one newsgroup at this end. I don't
have to worry whether I am replying to the right newsgroup as News Rover takes
care of all that sort of thing. In addition it displays the Usenet messages in
the proper format (Plain Text) you cannot therefore become infected with a
virus even if one is attached to a message...That happened this morning from a
guy in Photo Story...he sent a user a message telling him to open an attachment
which contained the solution to his problem...it was a virus Even in this
program...if you are stupid enough to open an attachment that has a virus then
of course that's your fault.

Its other fabulous feature (its a bit like those wonderful programs you see
spy's using in Films) It allows you to select every newsgroup that exists and
then tell it to search for just one word or phrase or e-mail address or boolean
expression, you then tell it how far to go back (Maximum of 999 days) and let
it rip. It even tells you when its done.

Its a great program and its free.

On the uk.rec.video.digital newsgroup. I used to collect news from that group.
I can't remember why I dropped it, it was some time back now, I can't even say
whether I have posted any messages in there. I might add it to this Interest
group in News Rover.
 
Hello again Mike,

I have checked out the info mentioned by Jake and the website
http://www.uwasa.fi/~f76998/video/conversion

I think you will probably find that it is the most complete source that is
readily available to us on the subject of non-square pixels...I am certainly
learning a lot from it. So if you have not checked it out yet...I suggest you
go take a look...you can then sit back and enjoy non-square pixels :))
 
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