So far still a bit of exploring to do as more different to Windows than I expected, But it keeps me occupied and what I have mastered I quite like. Well Mr mucks I only have a No 1 hair cut and also thinning so there is not much to pull out. Not brave really IMHO niv Microsoft will do something with W 10 as they have done with Office 365 and users will end up with a annual charge and I am not paying that so I would rather bite the bullet now and attempt to find an alternative OS and get used to it before that time comes, and have the time to try alternatives. I have tried Zorin but kept on falling back on Windows as it was dual booted, what I have done now is to remove the drive with W 8.1 on and only got the drive with Mint on the PC so it is more difficult to revert to windows. I have also have on DVD OpenSuse 13.2, Ubuntu 15.04, SimplyMEPIS 11.0 and PCLinuxOS 2014.12 to try if I do not get on with Mint.