Weird things happen with electricity through air.

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Hello,

Here some suggestions for further research:

1. One metal pin in the power wall socket.

2. One metal pin in the air near power wall socket.

Results:

Electricity spark flows through the air from pin to pin.

Weird stuff happens to electrical equipment.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
Hello,

Here some suggestions for further research:

1. One metal pin in the power wall socket.

2. One metal pin in the air near power wall socket.

Results:

Electricity spark flows through the air from pin to pin.

Weird stuff happens to electrical equipment.

Bye,
  Skybuck.
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I give you credit... You are a rather good hearted troll.
 
"brent" wrote in message

Hello,

Here some suggestions for further research:

1. One metal pin in the power wall socket.

2. One metal pin in the air near power wall socket.

Results:

Electricity spark flows through the air from pin to pin.

Weird stuff happens to electrical equipment.

Bye,
Skybuck.
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"
I give you credit... You are a rather good hearted troll.
"

This is not a troll, this is reality.

I have seen my DreamPC and HP Monitor behave weird after a power spark from
the power wall socket when plugging the power box into it.

And now my Pentium III is dead after a power wall socket spark.

And it caused the light to go off/circuit breaker switch...

How do you explain that mister anti-troll-calling-this-a-troll, this ain't
fake, this is real.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
"brent" wrote in message

Hello,

Here some suggestions for further research:

1. One metal pin in the power wall socket.

2. One metal pin in the air near power wall socket.

Results:

Electricity spark flows through the air from pin to pin.

Weird stuff happens to electrical equipment.

Bye,
Skybuck.
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"
I give you credit... You are a rather good hearted troll.
"

Try it yourself.

Hold your television analog cable in space it will transmit screen as
mentioned before by me on usenet and confirmed by others.

The same happens to electricity which is the same thing.

The weird space/noise you see on the television is what happens to
electricons apperently, noise is introduced which can be considerd bugs...

It creates radical behaviour in electronis.

I dare you to try it yourself and hold the power plug skewed until it
sparks, but I dare you to try it since you not brave enough to actually try
it because deep down you already believe me that it's badddddddddddd. But
why is it bad ? It remains a mystery for as far as I am concerned until
somebody clearifies it.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
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"
I give you credit... You are a rather good hearted troll.
"

Try it yourself.

Hold your television analog cable in space it will transmit screen as
mentioned before by me on usenet and confirmed by others.

The same happens to electricity which is the same thing.

The weird space/noise you see on the television is what happens to
electricons apperently, noise is introduced which can be considerd bugs...

It creates radical behaviour in electronis.

I dare you to try it yourself and hold the power plug skewed until it
sparks, but I dare you to try it since you not brave enough to actually
try it because deep down you already believe me that it's
badddddddddddd. But why is it bad ? It remains a mystery for as far as I
am concerned until somebody clearifies it.

Bye,
Skybuck.
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"Transients"
 
"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message

in message



"
I give you credit... You are a rather good hearted troll.
"

Try it yourself.

Hold your television analog cable in space it will transmit screen as
mentioned before by me on usenet and confirmed by others.

The same happens to electricity which is the same thing.

The weird space/noise you see on the television is what happens to
electricons apperently, noise is introduced which can be considerd bugs...

It creates radical behaviour in electronis.

I dare you to try it yourself and hold the power plug skewed until it
sparks, but I dare you to try it since you not brave enough to actually
try it because deep down you already believe me that it's
badddddddddddd. But why is it bad ? It remains a mystery for as far as I
am concerned until somebody clearifies it.

Bye,
Skybuck.
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"Transients"

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/electrical-transients-d_822.html

"
A transient is a high voltage spike of less than 10 microseconds in
duration. Transients in power lines may have voltage spikes up to 6,000
volts, and it is not unusual that spikes in commercial industrial circuits
excess 1,000 volts.

High voltage transients follows the path of least resistance to the ground,
creates a damaging heat in the circuit components and causing malfunctions
and failure.

External Transient Sources

External transients at high voltage caused by lightning hitting the power
lines are reduced through the distribution transformers by a factor typical
1 to 6. Since the transients caused by lighting may be extremely high - more
than 50,000 volts - the resulting transients after the transformers in the
distribution system may be very high when they reach the internal circuit.

Internal Transient Sources

Switching on and off of motors in the internal circuit can cause transients
up to 2,500 volts.
"

Well I do have a fridge with a broken freezer door which doesn't shut
properly... The freezer's motor is constantly running... perhaps this caused
a transient ?!?

But what the article does not explain is:

Are these transients in the power lines at all times ?

The article mentions: "10 microseconds in duration"

But my question is:

Is it possible for a transient to remain in the power lines in a looping
kind of fashion ?

Otherwise it would have to be a coincidence... I plug it in... and a
transient happens...

But once ok, but twice ? Maybe fridge has something to do with it... or the
weather... there were some thunder storms lately... but I barely hear them
because of earplugs ! ;)

Last question: were power supplies in the 90's designed against transients,
how about now ?

My DreamPC survived the power spark. My pentium did not... The answer could
then be: no not in the 90's yes in the 2000's.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
How do you explain that mister anti-troll-calling-this-a-troll, this ain't
fake, this is real.
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Your IQ is less than the number of letters in that sentence. And that
was a real assessment, not a troll.
 
SoothSayer said:
Your IQ is less than the number of letters in that sentence. And that
was a real assessment, not a troll.
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There you go, you just over rated him.

Jamie
 
Here some suggestions for further research:
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You're on a limited scope not having lived in lightening capitals.

I've talked to two people, during storms, who left their doors open.

Lightening came through the door, formed into a ball, and rolled
through their house.

Haven't seen it, though no doubt interesting - least mention others
I've also known others who have made a decent living repairing
electrics off the storm seasons - still, I think I'd rather moved to a
drier state for a professional career riding bulls without balls of
fire.
 
I doubt much difference in the power supplies, THEMSELVES. But, I think
electronic devices are a LOT more sensitive, due to greatly reduced
component sizes and oxide thickness.
You can generate high static electric voltages by walking across carpet,
sliding out of a chair, etc. Anything that produces friction, especially
of synthetic fabrics or plastics, can generate thousands of
Volts. Unless you are grounded by static-dissipative devices (wrist
straps, static-dissipative work surfaces and floors, and shoe grounds)
then you can get charged up, and anything you are holding (like a power
cord) can also be charged. When you plug it in to the grounded building
electrical system, you get a spark when that charge is dissipated. I
believe this is the type of event you experienced.
And, this can definitely damage equipment.

Jon
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The spider must have been rather frenzied to generate that much ESP.

You do realize the OP is the infamous "Skypuke Farting"? He's absolutely
clueless on anything mechanical or electrical, and has a "rather
inventive/creative" mode of troubleshooting. Add to that a large dose of
self induced histrionics.....

Sometime back in the 2002-2005 timeframe, he decided he "needed to
understand hardware better" to do coding. His screwball posts started
back then, and after he built his god-forsaken home-brew "Dream Machine
2006" it snowballed.

There are coders that should never be allowed to touch hardware.
Skypuke Farting is the classic example.




--
"Shit this is it, all the pieces do fit.
We're like that crazy old man jumping
out of the alleyway with a baseball bat,
saying, "Remember me motherfucker?"
Jim “Dandy” Mangrum
 
The DreamPC probably has power supplies which provide "power surge
protection" it says so in the manuals, these are quite expensive power
supplies, probably much better than the cheap china supply which was in the
pentium.

Your theory of the shock sounds somewhat plausible.

For example when I go to super market I touch something in super market a
metal rack and get a huge zap out it.

However when I plugged the power cable into the power socket a blue-light
electrical spark came from the power wall socket and hopped over air into
the metal pin.

At least that's what I think I saw... I could be mistaken but I don't think
so... I am 90% sure.

It happened before I even have it on "camera" in a *.mov file.

However I can't find or excess the mov file just yet... perhaps in the
future.

However for now you will have to believe me I will describe the spark I saw
back then a little bit better so you can try to visualize it.

The spark was light blue, it was about 1 centimeter across, it was about
half a centimeter think, it had a plasma kinda of look.

I am pretty sure that my body cannot create such a gigant spark. The
ammount of energy seemed to be huge.

I have never seen a human body create such a big spark, therefore it can
only have come from the power wall socket.

Therefore I simply believe the power wall sockets and power plugs are
unsafe, at least the European ones.

A better design would be something that would allow me to plug in the power
cord without a spark flying across the air.

Perhaps a button on the power wall socket to enable the flow of electricity.

However the main question remains:

1. What happens to electricity when it flows through air like that ? As
describe in the spark description ?

Does the electricity accumulate in a powerfull blue spark ? Does the air
create a sort of plasma vortex which charges up and then ultimately jumps
across pins, which could explain an over voltage.

Does the electricity wildly fluctuate betweens voltages ?

Could it also loose energy because of the light being radiated ? Energy
transformed into light ? Could it therefore also under voltage ? Could under
voltage lead to system damage ?

Perhaps it's a matter of amperes and not voltages... me not sure... so far I
have wrecked a power supply by over voltage so voltage seems most likely to
me... I have also once seen a dude short-circuit a computer somehow by
short-circuiting a power wall socket with some kind of broken device or
cables crossed or something it was weird lol.

I do suspect this electricity to wildly fluctuate and somehow cause
computers to flip flop between 0's and 1's so it can't make sense of
things... or at least some ticks are screwed up somehow... or it simply did
not get enough juice and some bits flipped, because it seemed to
malfunction.... even after plugging in the power cord the system remained to
behave weird... so it was very weird to say the least... power cords had to
be completely unplugged for multiple seconds... to let this weird
electricity go out of the systems... only then would the systems work again.
The video I have of it shows it ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.
 
The spider must have been rather frenzied to generate that much ESP.
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Especially since they are all but blind. They have to rely on ESP to
find their prey. :-)
 
The spider must have been rather frenzied to generate that much ESP.

You do realize the OP is the infamous "Skypuke Farting"? He's absolutely
clueless on anything mechanical or electrical, and has a "rather
inventive/creative" mode of troubleshooting. Add to that a large dose of
self induced histrionics.....

Sometime back in the 2002-2005 timeframe, he decided he "needed to
understand hardware better" to do coding. His screwball posts started
back then, and after he built his god-forsaken home-brew "Dream Machine
2006" it snowballed.

There are coders that should never be allowed to touch hardware.
Skypuke Farting is the classic example.
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If flybuck is a "coder". I doubt that. The troll needs to go back
through grade school science and physics that it failed to learn the first
time.

:-((
 
brent said:
I give you credit... You are a rather good hearted troll.
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Wonder what would happen if he took all that creativity used to generate
gibberish and pointed it toward something useful...like a book on
electronics.
 
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